Vick spotted at strip club?

[peplaw06]

It's a strip club. How the hell is that a stupid move? Let the man have fun. I bet nobody on this site ever spent a year in prison, but got an opinion on everything.

So when were you in prison?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

In every single judgment I've seen with probation terms, the "avoid places or persons of disreputable or harmful character" clause is in the first 2 or 3 terms. That's legalese for stay the hell out of bars and clubs.

it would be smart to avoid such places, but it's not a violation of probation

 

[peplaw06]

it would be smart to avoid such places, but it's not a violation of probation

Technically, yes it is.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Technically, yes it is.

how so? every, single individual in a bar and/or scrip club is not a hardened criminal on parole

hell, Iverson brought his wife

 

[peplaw06]

how so? every, single individual in a bar and/or scrip club is not a hardened criminal on parole

hell, Iverson brought his wife

It's not just the people there. It's the place and what happens there... i.e. people getting drunk.

There's also a clause that says to avoid injurious or vicious habits that is often in probation terms. That's code for drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It's not just the people there. It's the place and what happens there... i.e. people getting drunk.

There's also a clause that says to avoid injurious or vicious habits that is often in probation terms. That's code for drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc.

you're the lawyer I can't compete

 

[silverbear]

Little Buddy?

That would make you the Skipper

You can be the Cabin Boy...

Oh, the cabin boy, the cabin boy
That dirty little nipper
He lined his *** with broken glass
And circumcised the Skipper...

 

[Doomsday101]

It's a strip club. How the hell is that a stupid move? Let the man have fun. I bet nobody on this site ever spent a year in prison, but got an opinion on everything.

It is called common sense and good judgment. I don't need to do a year in TDC to know that I'm more likely to find trouble at certain places than I would be at others.

Growing up I found trouble pretty easy and ended up doing 30 days in the County Jail it did not take long to figure out that I continued to put myself in bad situations and because of that I paid a price.

Funny 99% of the time I could get away with my action but it only took 1 time to screw my life up for the next few years.

With so much on the line for a professional athlete is it worth it?

Strip Clubs while they may be perfectly legal there is a big difference for high rollers who attract seedy people than it is for the common Joe who goes and no one pays attention to because he is a no body.

 

[joseephuss]

Vick going to a strip club was not a stupid move. That is if he really has no desire to play in the NFL. If he wanted to increase his chances of playing in the NFL then he should have stayed out of the strip clubs.

Strip clubs are not bad. They are perceived as bad by some or many. Perception goes a long way.

Vick right now and the near future needs to be on his best behavior or what is perceived to be his best behavior. For many to whom it matters that means not going to strip clubs. I don't matter and personally I don't care that Vick was in the strip club. Roger Goodell matters. Some big name sponsors and advertisers that have relationships for the NFL matter. Vick has to give them the best perception of him as he can. Going to a strip club does not do that. That is why it was a stupid decision.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb and Kurt Warner could be seen in a strip club tonight and it would not matter. That is because they have a "clean" image. People can look past one little visit to a strip club. Vick does not have that type of image. He has a strike against him.

 

[Vtwin]

Ok while it isn't illegal, and honestly shouldn't be a big deal on most occassions, for Mike Vick this is a dumb move simply because of the uphill battle he's going to be fighting to get back into the league and clean up his image.

There is no reason for all the players in the NFL who go to strip clubs to fear being smeared, or given issue, because loads of them do it all the time and it doesn't make front page news. Why? Because those guys go to strip clubs and somehow manage to do so without starting fights, riots, making it rain, or whatever other nonesense that can get them in trouble. Also, to my knowledge, none of those other guys are just comiing off 2 years out of the league, and in jail, for operating a dog fighting ring.

That's the huge difference here. I don't think the NFL has an issue with their players going to these places as long as they conduct themselves in an approperiate manner. The problem is that they've got a few guys, here and there, who can't seem to go out to places without causing stupid trouble doing stupid things.

If Vick wasn't fighting this uphill battle to get back into the league right now then this likely wouldn't have made a single blip on the radar.

Isn't that exactly what Vick allegedly did?

The crime he did time for, and was suspended from the league for had nothing to do with strip clubs or even alcohol.

If he violated the terms of his release then he will be held accountable by the court.

I am disgusted with the PC society we have today. I'm no Vick fan. I don't care if he ever plays again. I also don't think the guy should be crucified because he went to a strip club after being locked up or locked down for a year or two.

The fact is, he is the exact same guy now that he was when the league LOVED him for being a star player and a money making marketing tool.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's a strip club. How the hell is that a stupid move? Let the man have fun. I bet nobody on this site ever spent a year in prison, but got an opinion on everything.

Oh yay. Another one of those people who can have an opinion but the other side can't because they didn't do anything stupid enough to put them in jail. What a brilliant response.

No one is saying that it's wrong to go to a strip club. If that's your thing then that's awesome. Have at it.

But when you've put yourself in the position Mike Vick has, and you need to keep yourself completely away from anywhere, anyone, or anything that could potentially cause issues, be it real or imagined issues, and you're attempting to get back to playing NFL football then you've got to be a lot more careful about where you go or what you do.

Did he do anything wrong going there? I don't know cause I don't know the terms of his parole or anything but it's probably wise to wait until you're allowed back into the league and have started to repair your image a bit before you just start going out to places with a negative image placed with them.

It's not right that going to a strip club is thought of negatively by many but it's a fact of life. Average Joe NFL player can go and not a peep. If D-Ware went to a strip joint there wouldn't be a word about it.

Why? Because he's never been in trouble. He's never had any issues, of any kinds, anywhere.

Mike Vick has. So why put yourself in a place where the chance for trouble, or negative publicity, is going to immediately increase?

Isn't that exactly what Vick allegedly did?

The crime he did time for, and was suspended from the league for had nothing to do with strip clubs or even alcohol.

If he violated the terms of his release then he will be held accountable by the court.

I am disgusted with the PC society we have today. I'm no Vick fan. I don't care if he ever plays again. I also don't think the guy should be crucified because he went to a strip club after being locked up or locked down for a year or two.

The fact is, he is the exact same guy now that he was when the league LOVED him for being a star player and a money making marketing tool.

Mike Vick got himself in trouble which is why the league can, and likely will, hold him to a different standard. Doesn't matter that his trouble wasn't in a strip club it's the fact that he got in trouble. If he doesn't like that double standard on him...well...too bad. Possibly he should have thought about that before he started running a dog fighting operation.

People who get themselves in trouble, no matter how they do it, often get held to a different standard afterwards because they've blown that trust and such.

yes when he was a star, and hadn't been busted for killing dogs, and he went to strip joints it wasn't a big deal and no one cared. That changes, in the eyes of the league, when you've just got out of jail for being a knuckle head. Now things that wouldn't have been thought about before will be judged more closely, and harshly.

It's the price you pay for screwing up.

 

[icyhot]

Michael Vicksaid he was out of town and the story isn't true. Per Newport Newspaper. Allen Iverson said he hasn't seen Michael Vick since he was released. My source 105.3 the fan here in Dallas.

According to "a number of gossip blogs," Michael Vick was spotted at a Virginia Beach strip club with Allen Iverson on Monday night.

Strip clubs are legal and Vick hasn't seen many women in the last two years, so this seems natural enough. There's no word on whether Vick made it rain.
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution