Video: Mayock talks Tackles and Iupati

[UnoDallas]

Hell no. Our biggest OL need is LG.

I agree

Iupati makes too much sense here. He's the type of mauling offensive lineman Dallas loves to have up front. The Cowboys need help at the position. It's a perfect match

Iupati had a great week of Senior Bowl practices, but he really struggled in pass protection during the game. He has a ton of upside, but he's still raw. I'd be surprised to see him go much higher than this i.e. No. 17 to the 49ers. Steeler or Philly

he we will fall into our laps

and the holding thing -not even worried about it

give a a couple months with HH

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We have Kosier, Holland, and possibly Brewster for LG.
Behind Flo we have a swing tackle in Free, then it's McQuistan..

Tackle depth appears to be a bigger need imo.



That's not the point. The point is that we need somebody we can groom to play tackle eventually when Flo wears out and then Colombo...

Brewswter is a 3rd round tackle prospect and we already have one replacement in Free who is going to be better this year then he was last year.

You can sit there all day long and say that Brewster is a guard but we don't know that. I am not adverse to getting a tackle but at least we have three quality tackles for sure. At guard we have the starters and then Proctor and Holland assuming they come back.

 

[dcfanatic]

Brewswter is a 3rd round tackle prospect and we already have one replacement in Free who is going to be better this year then he was last year.

You can sit there all day long and say that Brewster is a guard but we don't know that. I am not adverse to getting a tackle but at least we have three quality tackles for sure. At guard we have the starters and then Proctor and Holland assuming they come back.

Holland wasn't even active for one game in 2009.

He's not coming back.

Brewster is a lump at 6'4 and he's going to be a Guard.

I think the need is there at an equal level for both spots.

 

[CF74]

Brewswter is a 3rd round tackle prospect and we already have one replacement in Free who is going to be better this year then he was last year.

You can sit there all day long and say that Brewster is a guard but we don't know that. I am not adverse to getting a tackle but at least we have three quality tackles for sure. At guard we have the starters and then Proctor and Holland assuming they come back.

I will be elated if Brewster turns out to be a really good tackle but until we know for sure it would be in our best interest to draft one now as opposed to waiting for the next year or the following year after that. The longer we have a guy in our training facilities and practicing with our team, the better he will become. Why wait to the last minute?? That's all I'm saying here...

 

[The Realist]

For all we know Jerry intends to resign Kosier who is by no means done at 31 years old.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

We don't know that Brewster is going to be a guard.

 

[Alexander]

If we can't trade up we might have to reach...

Why would anyone "have" to reach? We still have Adams returning for another season.

There is never a good reason to reach for anyone unless you are completely destitute. I do not think the team views Free nearly as much of a liability as you do.

 

[Alexander]

We don't know that Brewster is going to be a guard.

Yes, but it is safe to say he's probably not a left tackle candidate.

 

[Hostile]

We have Kosier, Holland, and possibly Brewster for LG.

What else ya got?

At OT we have 3 starting quality guys. At OG we have 1 1/2 starting quality guys.

 

[gimmesix]

Holland wasn't even active for one game in 2009.

He's not coming back.

Brewster is a lump at 6'4 and he's going to be a Guard.

I think the need is there at an equal level for both spots.

I won't be unhappy either way. If we get a tackle, it's possible he'd also be able to play guard if needed.

As far as Brewster goes, though, I believe he has long arms, which allows him to handle playing tackle while not possessing ideal height. Don't know where he'll end up, but I don't think we can rule out tackle since his feet seem to be one of his best assets.

 

[gimmesix]

What else ya got?

At OT we have 3 starting quality guys. At OG we have 1 1/2 starting quality guys.

And I'll say this again: Where we are drafting, we have a possible shot at the top guard in the draft. Tackles go off the board a lot faster, so we might be looking at the fourth-, fifth-, sixth-best player at that position when we draft.

I think you've got to take the best of what's given to you, and that's more likely to be a guard than a tackle.

Of course, I wouldn't mind Dallas looking at someone like Florida's Maurkice Pouncey, who can start at guard or center. He could start off at guard and possibly switch to center to replace Gurode in a few years.

 

[Randy White]

That last part about Iupati 'grabbing' wasn't too good. I do not think he can play Left Tackle in the NFL. Stick him at Guard and leave him there.

I don't care about the last part because everybody in this draft has a weakness. His strenghts are well documented which is why Mayock himself has him rated very high.

However, it's very obvious that he cannot play any OT position. The drills shown that week proved that. He's been playing guard all of his football life and he's become accustomed to it. When they tried him at OT, at the request of scouts, he looked like a fish out of water. He waited for the action to " come to him " and by the time he tried to engage, the defender was past him half the time.

He's a natural guard and it's a position where he simply dominates. Draft him as such and enjoy the 10+ years of Pro Bowl level play he's going to give you. There's no need to re-invent the wheel with this guy.

 

[Randy White]

Anyone else get the feeling that Iupati might be one of those February wonders who doesn't get drafted nearly as high as people think when the draft actually happens??

I know what you're talking about and I sincerely hope he falls to #27.

However, as the draft gets closer, and the combines are done, he'll most likely be one of this players who gets drafted way too early. I would be surprised, but wouldn't be completely shocked if the 49erds pull the trigger with their 2nd first round pick on him.

 

[Randy White]

AND WHAT DOES RANDY WHITE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS!?!?!?!?

Uh, the same thing I've been saying ALL along ? Or you still CAN'T read the part where he's THE highest guard in the draft ?


Need somebody to teach you ?

 

[Randy White]

I will be elated if Brewster turns out to be a really good tackle but until we know for sure it would be in our best interest to draft one now as opposed to waiting for the next year or the following year after that.

Hate to break the news to you, but which ever TACKLE the Cowboys draft this year, won't be making any starts until, at the minimum, 2 years from now.

Providing they bring back FLO ( which I'm completely against ), Doug Free would still be the #1 option if either tackles get injured, and behind him, Brewster is lurking ( and that's assuming they get rid of McQuistan ). So, at best, that new guy would be competing with Brewster for playing time and going by this staff reputation of developing O-linemen, that kid is not going to be ready until 2012 at the earliest.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't care about the last part because everybody in this draft has a weakness. His strenghts are well documented which is why Mayock himself has him rated very high.

However, it's very obvious that he cannot play any OT position. The drills shown that week proved that. He's been playing guard all of his football life and he's become accustomed to it. When they tried him at OT, at the request of scouts, he looked like a fish out of water. He waited for the action to " come to him " and by the time he tried to engage, the defender was past him half the time.

He's a natural guard and it's a position where he simply dominates. Draft him as such and enjoy the 10+ years of Pro Bowl level play he's going to give you. There's no need to re-invent the wheel with this guy.

And for good reason. His biggest flaws are easily correctable with the proper coaching. Which he will get with Houck.

 

[CF74]

Why would anyone "have" to reach? We still have Adams returning for another season.

There is never a good reason to reach for anyone unless you are completely destitute. I do not think the team views Free nearly as much of a liability as you do.

Destitue: Yeah we were in the playoffs. Free was solid, Colombo was a gimp and Flo went down..

And based on the video posted in order to get a tackle these days it requires a reach if you have a later pick. I'm thinking future here, not immediate but as we all know players take 2+ years to develop so you grab em now. I'm sure I'll have to repeat this to many...

What else ya got?

At OT we have 3 starting quality guys. At OG we have 1 1/2 starting quality guys.

McQuistan..:laugh2:

I understand your point, I just don't agree with it. I'm not sold on Flo or Free holding down the left tackle side, you are. Guards are easier to, "Plug" in vs LT's. I pray that I'm wrong but I believe if we don't get a LT to groom now, it will cost us dearly 2-3 years from now. By then it will be to late unless a FA LT falls out of the sky into Jerry's lap...

We got killed in the playoffs because Colombo, Gurode, and Flo were either playing injured or went down completely and because the coaches were to ignorant to start off with Free over Colombo. The game snow balled from there..

Hate to break the news to you, but which ever TACKLE the Cowboys draft this year, won't be making any starts until, at the minimum, 2 years from now.

Providing they bring back FLO ( which I'm completely against ), Doug Free would still be the #1 option if either tackles get injured, and behind him, Brewster is lurking ( and that's assuming they get rid of McQuistan ). So, at best, that new guy would be competing with Brewster for playing time and going by this staff reputation of developing O-linemen, that kid is not going to be ready until 2012 at the earliest.

Hate to repeat myself so look up or finish reading the post...:laugh2:

 

[Randy White]

Hate to repeat myself so look up or finish reading the post...:laugh2:

I get you, but there are couple of things against your argument.

1) If you don't believe in Free being able to play LT ( which I completely disagree with, but more on that in a bit ), then how can you be confident that either this front office, who drafted Free, can identify a capable LT AND/OR this coaching staff, who's been grooming Free for 4 years, can properly develop that LT ?


2) I agree that, in hindsight, Free should have started over Columbo against the Vikes and if/when Flo went down, Free should have been moved to LT and Columbo then taken over RT. But that's Monday morning Q-backing and there's nothing we can do about that.

However, what makes you think that Free, who's been groomed to take over the LT position since he was drafted, is not ready ? Remember ( and I mentioned this before ), Free wasn't supposed to take over Columbo orginally. He's been prepared to take over FLO. That he did a wonderful job at the RT position is just another PLUS for his resume.

 

[Hostile]

And I'll say this again: Where we are drafting, we have a possible shot at the top guard in the draft. Tackles go off the board a lot faster, so we might be looking at the fourth-, fifth-, sixth-best player at that position when we draft.

I think you've got to take the best of what's given to you, and that's more likely to be a guard than a tackle.

Of course, I wouldn't mind Dallas looking at someone like Florida's Maurkice Pouncey, who can start at guard or center. He could start off at guard and possibly switch to center to replace Gurode in a few years.

Great post. Truly excellent.

 

[Eskimo]

I get you, but there are couple of things against your argument.

1) If you don't believe in Free being able to play LT ( which I completely disagree with, but more on that in a bit ), then how can you be confident that either this front office, who drafted Free, can identify a capable LT AND/OR this coaching staff, who's been grooming Free for 4 years, can properly develop that LT ?


2) I agree that, in hindsight, Free should have started over Columbo against the Vikes and if/when Flo went down, Free should have been moved to LT and Columbo then taken over RT. But that's Monday morning Q-backing and there's nothing we can do about that.

However, what makes you think that Free, who's been groomed to take over the LT position since he was drafted, is not ready ? Remember ( and I mentioned this before ), Free wasn't supposed to take over Columbo orginally. He's been prepared to take over FLO. That he did a wonderful job at the RT position is just another PLUS for his resume.

I agree with you - too many people have counted out Free for no good reason at the LT spot. It took him a couple of games to find his legs at the RT spot but by the end of the year he was probably playing better than anyone else on the OL. Him and Davis were manhandling people out on the right side of the line. In pass protection you could clearly see his height, long arms, quick feet and ability to get out in space and make bone crushing blocks against LBs and DBs in the open field.

I don't have too much doubt about Free being our future LT. If we find someone better, that's okay because we can just move Free over to RT where we know he can also play well.

I do think it is important to have the RT of the future on the roster by the end of this draft so he can have at least one full year of grooming before being thrown out there.