Video: Wade downplays the locker room issues - 3/25/09

[Chocolate Lab]

So, you think that he is a respected head coach? You know, a guy who gets a very talented team to perform in crunch time.

Respected by whom? I think he's a lot more respected by his players than he is by the media and most fans. And his players are all that matter.

But the real premise was that the way a coach is at PCs isn't necessarily the way he is in private with his team. Just look at Bill Belichick.

 

[thechosen1n2]

What wade said was correct, and LOSING was the problem. High expectations x not fufilling expectations = a scape goat needed. Owens was the fall guy. Owens was the same guy he was in year 1 and 2...those years we were not seen as under achievers. Thats the difference.

 

[Doomsay]

Respected by whom? I think he's a lot more respected by his players than he is by the media and most fans. And his players are all that matter..

I think that they like easy camps and time off, but I wouldn't confuse that with respect. They sure don't seem to play very hard for him. Don't forget the waive-off of the punt.

But the real premise was that the way a coach is at PCs isn't necessarily the way he is in private with his team. Just look at Bill Belichick.

Well, we are talking about respect here, and Bill commands respect both in the media and with his players - even when he's made mistakes. Wade has looked like an undeserving scion since he came here. Kind of like Switzer and Campo. No other teams were going to give them HC gigs other than Jerry the puppet master, and the players can figure that out.

 

[Doomsay]

What wade said was correct, and LOSING was the problem. High expectations x not fufilling expectations = a scape goat needed. Owens was the fall guy. Owens was the same guy he was in year 1 and 2...those years we were not seen as under achievers. Thats the difference.

Owens was not the same guy that he was in '06 and '07 - he reverted to his baseline behavior and began to criticize his team publicly, which is why he's gone.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think that they like easy camps and time off, but I wouldn't confuse that with respect. They sure don't seem to play very hard for him. Don't forget the waive-off of the punt.

Well, we are talking about respect here, and Bill commands respect both in the media and with his players - even when he's made mistakes. Wade has looked like an undeserving scion since he came here. Kind of like Switzer and Campo. No other teams were going to give them HC gigs other than Jerry the puppet master, and the players can figure that out.

No, the team didn't play hard at any time the last two years.

And AJ Smith was going to give him a HC gig if we hadn't first.

But I get it, you think he's horrible. That's fine. I won't try to change your mind.

 

[Doomsay]

No, the team didn't play hard at any time the last two years.

And AJ Smith was going to give him a HC gig if we hadn't first.

But I get it, you think he's horrible. That's fine. I won't try to change your mind.

Q. Did you see at the end of the season that there was a possibility that Cam and Wade would be gone?

Dean Spanos: "No. In my personal opinion, and A.J. and I talked about this, we thought there was a possibility that we might lose one and have a minor turnover, but we did not expect to have a significant change like this."

Q. Did you make any sort of attempt to keep Wade Phillips?

DS: "No."

Q. Is there a short list of head coaching candidates?

A.J. Smith: "I've got a list. Right after Dean hired me, maybe three or four days later, I think it's my job and responsibility to have names. I've always had a list of names, and they constantly change from year to year. I do have some people in mind, and as soon as this (interview) is over, I'm going to get together with Dean and discuss those and make a list and proceed. We'll find out who we want to contact and maybe shrink that list a little bit. Maybe some of the names we want to contact will not be interested, and we'll move on to some other candidates. We do have some people involved, some very capable people. We'll discuss that later this evening and proceed immediately."

http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2007/02/spanos-and-smith-talk-about-sc.html

I remember "sources" saying that AJ wanted to keep Wade when we were cruising on talent early in '07, but I think that this is a little more definitive. Wade has been given a wealth of talent throughout his career and always squandered it. He'll never get a HC assignment again, - in part because of his pathetic public pandering. It isn't coach-like.

"TO's 15 yard endzone celebration penalty was my fault."

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He's not lying. At the time, Marty was still the head coach, and Phillips was getting a promotion from DC to head coach. Why would they make an attempt to keep him? They couldn't really stop him, short of throwing some insane amount of money at him.

Anyway, like I said, there are plenty like you who say he's terrible because... Well... Because he doesn't look right, or doesn't talk right, or doesn't hit for the first 25 days of camp, or... Well, just because you say so. Like how we were "cruising on talent" winning more games than the previous Hall of Famer could.

But that's fine, suit yourself.

 

[Doomsay]

He's not lying. At the time, Marty was still the head coach, and Phillips was getting a promotion from DC to head coach. Why would they make an attempt to keep him? They couldn't really stop him, short of throwing some insane amount of money at him.

Anyway, like I said, there are plenty like you who say he's terrible because... Well... Because he doesn't look right, or doesn't talk right, or doesn't hit for the first 25 days of camp, or... Well, just because you say so. Like how we were "cruising on talent" winning more games than the previous Hall of Famer could.

But that's fine, suit yourself.

Not a big fan of game day Parcells, but he turned this moribund team around, from one of the worst in the NFL to a multiple playoff participant. Wade inherited one of the most talented teams in the NFL thanks to Bill and his staff and then gave them nap time in the playoffs. They've unraveled ever since. History will judge Wade as an affable guy that worked his surname for all it was worth, but never had the right stuff to be a head coach.

He couldn't even coach the Lions and everyone outside of Jerry knows it.

 

[dcfanatic]

LOL. I'm sure Wade is worried about his "strength" and "stature" regarding the media. Why are some of you so impressed by coaches who act like a tough guy to a bunch of writers and reporters?

We all know why TO is gone. There's no need to say it on ESPN and start up even more controversy about the departed player.

Wade is all over today crying about the media. But he doesn't care what they think of him? lol.

And maybe he comes out and says that T.O. being on the team was creating some issues that weren't good for the team environment.

Why?

So the currect players understand that if they want to act like Terrell Owens did then they will also be playing in 'North America' before long.

In one interview Wade said he's talking now and he's been talking. That's a blatant lie. The last time Wade addressed the media publicly was the day after the Eagles game.

He's the defensive coordinator.

This team doesn't have a head coach.

 

[Idgit]

I think that they like easy camps and time off, but I wouldn't confuse that with respect. They sure don't seem to play very hard for him. Don't forget the waive-off of the punt.

Well, we are talking about respect here, and Bill commands respect both in the media and with his players - even when he's made mistakes. Wade has looked like an undeserving scion since he came here. Kind of like Switzer and Campo. No other teams were going to give them HC gigs other than Jerry the puppet master, and the players can figure that out.

Charger players last season were still talking about what a major loss it was for them when Wade Phillips left for Dallas. I've yet to hear a Cowboy say anything bad about him as a coach, and that includes players who have since left for other teams. The only people complaining about Wade are fans that don't listen to anything other than his news conferences, and they were *****ing immediately after he went 13-3 and lost in the playoffs to the eventual Superbowl champion.

 

[Bleu Star]

Funny. We were thinking along the same lines. I hadn't seen your post before posting mine. :

Wade is a farce.

 

[Doomsay]

Charger players last season were still talking about what a major loss it was for them when Wade Phillips left for Dallas. I've yet to hear a Cowboy say anything bad about him as a coach, and that includes players who have since left for other teams. The only people complaining about Wade are fans that don't listen to anything other than his news conferences, and they were *****ing immediately after he went 13-3 and lost in the playoffs to the eventual Superbowl champion.

Anybody watching this team carefully last year could see that they were running on autopilot to a large degree - mostly fueled by offensive heroics that had nothing to do with Wade. When it came time to get tough and focused for the playoffs, he took time off and rested on his record.

Of course players like him, he's an easy coach, he coddles them in public and presumably in the locker room since any suggestion of him getting tough is laughed at by players. Exiting players are also not dumb enough to criticize a guy who will likely be a coordinator again next year, possibly on their team.

 

[Idgit]

Anybody watching this team carefully last year could see that they were running on autopilot to a large degree - mostly fueled by offensive heroics that had nothing to do with Wade. When it came time to get tough and focused for the playoffs, he took time off and rested on his record.

Of course players like him, he's an easy coach, he coddles them in public and presumably in the locker room since any suggestion of him getting tough is laughed at by players. Exiting players are also not dumb enough to criticize a guy who will likely be a coordinator again next year, possibly on their team.

I don't agree that the team was on autopilot at all last year. We were banged up, and we underperformed, and our depth at some positions was nowhere near as good as we thought it was, but we weren't on autopilot.

Players bash coaches when they leave teams all the time. Many bash coaches while they're playing for a team. But that's not what I"m talking about. Charger players on local radio stations were on the air bitter about the loss of Wade Phillips and the impact that had on their defense all the time. Not because they liked the guy, but because they missed his effectiveness. I specifically heard Castillo on the air comparing Wade favorably to Cotrell before Cotrell had been let go. His point was the Cotrell was a good coach, but it's hard to replace a really great coordinator.

That also says something about your theory about how dumb players aren't.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Anybody watching this team carefully last year could see that they were running on autopilot to a large degree - mostly fueled by offensive heroics that had nothing to do with Wade. When it came time to get tough and focused for the playoffs, he took time off and rested on his record.

When exactly were the "offensive heroics" of our mighty 19th ranked offense carrying this team?

Autopilot. LOL.