Vince Young

[jimmy40]

Just looked at this page and haven't read the whole thread but it looks to me like an Aggie is refusing to give a Longhorn any credit.

We're still trying to figure out why Reggie McNeal isn't starting over Carson Palmer.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Your education -- or lack thereof -- is showing... :laugh2:

intents and purposes HH

intents and purposes

 

[Rack]

Your education -- or lack thereof -- is showing... :laugh2:

 

[jay cee]

I don't want to come across the wrong way but I wouldn't jump the gun on vince young just yet and my reasoning is Mike Vick. Vince young's career seems to be getting off to an earily similar start to vicks career and look at vick now. If you guys recall vick also had his superman type plays early in his career and also won a game in OT via a long run just like young did today (2002 vs vikings ) While I definitely agree young's arm is better than vicks the question is how much better is it. So this post is NOT to say vince young WONT become the real deal and its NOT taking anything away from what young has done thus far because he has been amazing. THis situation just really reminds me of how every1 was all over vick when he was young and now look at him.

The problems with Vick started when his new coach decided to go with a West Coast offense. Anyone with any football knowledge realized that Vick would struggle in that offense, and he has.

 

[The30YardSlant]

that about sums it up

There's a difference between not giving one any credit and saying one will never become a franchise QB in the NFL. I acknowledged his run today was great, a run maybe 3 QBs in history could have made.

 

[gbrittain]

I almost feel like dragging up the old posts that proclaimed Vince Young should be drafted as a WR.

How great / not great Vince Young will become remains to be seen, but he certainly has proved that he deserves a shot to be a NFL QB.

Those who said he is not even a poor man's Michael Vick were obviously way off. Michael Vick is a poor man's Vince Young.

No question I would rather have VY than MV. Michael Vick has reached his ceiling there is no telling how great Vince could become.

I am not even a Longhorn. I am a University of Houston grad. Watch out for Kerry Kolb!

 

[peplaw06]

intents and purposes HH

intents and purposes

No dude, they're extreme purposes... Or very involved purposes...

INTENSIVE!!!

 

[BoysFanInAustin]

I actually meant to type 2002, Vick's second year in the league. My mistake.

However, Vick saw almost no playing time in his 1st season. 2002 was, for all intensive purposes, his rookie year. They threw him into the fire just like Tennessee did to VY and he played very well.

So he wasn't exactly thrown into the fire since 2001, his rookie year, was basically a redshirt year. Even though his stats show he played in 8 games his rookie year with 2 starts. Although most of his rookie season, he was splitting snaps with Chris Chandler. So in 2002, the year he was "thrown into the fire", he already had 8 games of limited playing time under his belt.

Meanwhile Vince, has played in almost every game this year, started all but 3. Vince has been thrown into the fire moreson than Vick. Who knows. Maybe if he started opening day, he would have learned faster and Tennessee might have had a legitimate shot at the playoffs. As it is, Tennessee is a longshot as it is tough to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 (which is the best Tenn can do) in the AFC. But if Tennessee finishes above .500 with a rookie at QB, that's an accomplishment within itself.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

There's a difference between not giving one any credit and saying one will never become a franchise QB in the NFL.

so the same as having a crystal ball

and not having a crystal ball?

 

[Rack]

The problems with Vick started when his new coach decided to go with a West Coast offense. Anyone with any football knowledge realized that Vick would struggle in that offense, and he has.

Vick was gonna struggle in ANY offense... except maybe the flexbone.

 

[The30YardSlant]

The problems with Vick started when his new coach decided to go with a West Coast offense. Anyone with any football knowledge realized that Vick would struggle in that offense, and he has.

Vick was screwed over by his coaching staff, no question, but a good franchise QB adjusts and does what he has to to learn and adapt to any offense. It almost looks like Vick isnt even trying to learn it.

 

[The30YardSlant]

so as the same as having a crystal ball

and not having a crystal ball?

I never said you or anyone else had to agree with me, I just backed up my opinion with facts and received nothing but deragatory remarks about A&M in return.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I almost feel like dragging up the old posts that proclaimed Vince Young should be drafted as a WR.

How great / not great Vince Young will become remains to be seen, but he certainly has proved that he deserves a shot to be a NFL QB.

Those who said he is not even a poor man's Michael Vick were obviously way off. Michael Vick is a poor man's Vince Young.

No question I would rather have VY than MV. Michael Vick has reached his ceiling there is no telling how great Vince could become.

I am not even a Longhorn. I am a University of Houston grad. Watch out for Kerry Kolb!

Andre Ware :

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I never said you or anyone else had to agree with me, I just backed up my opinion with facts and received nothing but deragatory remarks about A&M in return.

uh, you haven't given any facts as to why VINCE YOUNG won't develop into a franchise QB

just some facts about other QBs

 

[gbrittain]

Andre Ware :

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:


Manny Hazzard!

 

[WoodysGirl]

I almost feel like dragging up the old posts that proclaimed Vince Young should be drafted as a WR.

How great / not great Vince Young will become remains to be seen, but he certainly has proved that he deserves a shot to be a NFL QB.

Those who said he is not even a poor man's Michael Vick were obviously way off. Michael Vick is a poor man's Vince Young.

No question I would rather have VY than MV. Michael Vick has reached his ceiling there is no telling how great Vince could become.

I am not even a Longhorn. I am a University of Houston grad. Watch out for Kerry Kolb!

Go Coogs!

 

[TEK2000]

I almost feel like dragging up the old posts that proclaimed Vince Young should be drafted as a WR.

How great / not great Vince Young will become remains to be seen, but he certainly has proved that he deserves a shot to be a NFL QB.

Those who said he is not even a poor man's Michael Vick were obviously way off. Michael Vick is a poor man's Vince Young.

No question I would rather have VY than MV. Michael Vick has reached his ceiling there is no telling how great Vince could become.

I am not even a Longhorn. I am a University of Houston grad. Watch out for Kerry Kolb!

You mean KEVIN Kolb? :laugh2:

 

[The30YardSlant]

Who knows. Maybe if he started opening day, he would have learned faster and Tennessee might have had a legitimate shot at the playoffs. As it is, Tennessee is a longshot as it is tough to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 (which is the best Tenn can do) in the AFC. But if Tennessee finishes above .500 with a rookie at QB, that's an accomplishment within itself.

People need to stop acting like Vuince Young is all Tennessee has. They have, and had, a lot of young talent. Sticking a QB back there who didnt get sacked every other play has motivated them. There is no question Vince Yougn gave them a spark, there is a question as to whether or not you can win long term with a guy who can't complete more tha half his pass attempts

 

[Rack]

I almost feel like dragging up the old posts that proclaimed Vince Young should be drafted as a WR.

Hell I still think he'd make a good WR. I said he might end up being drafted as a WR after his Sophomore year. Of course he improved greatly his junior year (passing).


He's a good football player. Period. He could end up being a great QB, and if he ended up being a WR, I think he could of been great at that position too.

 

[WoodysGirl]

You mean KEVIN Kolb? :laugh2:

Close enuff. :laugh2: