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HeavyHitta31;1221188 said:
People need to stop acting like Vuince Young is all Tennessee has. They have, and had, a lot of young talent. Sticking a QB back there who didnt get sacked every other play has motivated them. There is no question Vince Yougn gave them a spark, there is a question as to whether or not you can win long term with a guy who can't complete more tha half his pass attempts
Vince's completion percentage went up every year he was in college.

That's a fact too...not biased opinion!;)
 

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summerisfunner;1221179 said:
uh, you haven't given any facts as to why VINCE YOUNG won't develop into a franchise QB

just some facts about other QBs

Actually, I did:

He can't beat teams with his arm. Yeah, he won the game today, but look at his passing stats:

50.2 completion %
10 TD
11 INT
63.5 QB Rating

Comparing him to Vick was just one example of how a guy can look great to begin with, only to have his inability to hit open receivers on a consistant basis be his downfall.

We've seen in the NFL, time and again, how accuracy, or lack thereof is what does QBs in. Many QBs have had success with weak arms but great accuracy, where as guys who can throw it a country mile (Jeff George, David Klinger, Mike Vick, etc.) have flopped because they couldnt hit the open man. If Vince Young had great accuracy but a weak arm, we wouldnt be having this discussion. All he would need to be is accurate and get the ball out to open guys when he cant run.
 

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I really believe Vince Young could have been one of the WRs EVER had he gone that route. He is 6'6" with a 40" vert and 4.5 speed who can break tackles.
 

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Danny White;1220989 said:
This thread is like a train wreck that you can see coming from a mile away. From the moment I started this thread, I knew where it was going (provided that HH was online) and to see it get there in all of its glory is a beautiful thing. :D

Haha, Danny.

And when I saw how many pages this thread had gotten to, I knew HH was in on it. :laugh2:

Just one comment, and I will parrot Dale's:

I am happy we played the Titans when we did, too.
 

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J-DOG;1221204 said:
Vince's completion percentage went up every year he was in college.

That's a fact too...not biased opinion!;)

Yes, because, by Mack Brown's own admission, they change the offense to cover up Vince Young's sub par accuracy. 70% of his throws went to the TE or RBs. Texas was 3rd in the nation last year in run after the catch yardage, which is how he got his yards per completion up so high
 

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Fan Since 77;1221118 said:
exactly the response I expected. You can't even bring yourself to type it out. It pains you, like watching the longhorns win a national championship pained you.

Poooooor Aggy.

I realize you are all bumping chests about the bragging rights to Texas, but I think HH's comparison to Vick is not that far off. I think in time, Young will be better than Vick, especially passing. But to imply he is a franchise QB already is the product of an overactive imagination which is more than a little fueled by some homerism.
 

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Rack;1221192 said:
Hell I still think he'd make a good WR. I said he might end up being drafted as a WR after his Sophomore year. Of course he improved greatly his junior year (passing).


He's a good football player. Period. He could end up being a great QB, and if he ended up being a WR, I think he could of been great at that position too.

Sophmore year is one thing, but I know you remember those proclaiming that days before the draft. I don't remember you being one of them.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1221188 said:
People need to stop acting like Vuince Young is all Tennessee has. They have, and had, a lot of young talent. Sticking a QB back there who didnt get sacked every other play has motivated them. There is no question Vince Yougn gave them a spark, there is a question as to whether or not you can win long term with a guy who can't complete more tha half his pass attempts
I didn't hear anyone talking about all this talent two months ago. Next year they have like 10 picks and $40,000,000 to play with from what I heard. The future looks very bright especially since they drafted their franchise QB this year.

Pac man is a very exiting young talent although he seems to have an extremely large helmet, kind of reminds me of Spaceballs.
 

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Alexander;1221220 said:
I realize you are all bumping chests about the bragging rights to Texas, but I think HH's comparison to Vick is not that far off. I think in time, Young will be better than Vick, especially passing. But to imply he is a franchise QB already is the product of an overactive imagination which is more than a little fueled by some homerism.

Bingo. Whether you chose to believe Young will get better or not isnt as big an issue with me as saying he is already worthy of all this praise as a great QB. I personally don't believe he will develop into a good passer, but thre is no debate about his lack of accuracy thus far.
 

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gbrittain;1221222 said:
Sophmore year is one thing, but I know you remember those proclaiming that days before the draft. I don't remember you being one of them.

Not before this draft. But I did say I thought he'd make a great WR after his Soph year.


All he really has to do is work his arse off in the film room, and on this throwing motion. Everything else will take care of itself IMO.
 

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Rack;1221168 said:
Vick was gonna struggle in ANY offense... except maybe the flexbone.

I can't tell what would have happened, I only know what did happen.

Vick really looked good his 2nd year (1st yr as starter), got hurt his 3rd yr, and has struggled since Mora came in with the WCO.
 

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jimmy40;1221225 said:
I didn't hear anyone talking about all this talent two months ago. Next year they have like 10 picks and $40,000,000 to play with from what I heard. The future looks very bright especially since they drafted their franchise QB this year.

Pac man is a very exiting young talent although he seems to have an extremely large helmet, kind of reminds me of Spaceballs.

Motivation brings out the best in all of us
 

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Those stats HH dropped about Vince Young are better than Eli Manning's rookie season.

Just to put things in perspective.
 

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Alexander;1221220 said:
I realize you are all bumping chests about the bragging rights to Texas, but I think HH's comparison to Vick is not that far off. I think in time, Young will be better than Vick, especially passing. But to imply he is a franchise QB already is the product of an overactive imagination which is more than a little fueled by some homerism.
No more than Romo being Dallas fanchise QB after 6 games right?
 

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TEK2000;1221236 said:
Those stats HH dropped about Vince Young are better than Eli Manning's rookie season.

Just to put things in perspective.

The very fact that you are comparing Young to Eli speaks volumes :laugh2:
 

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HeavyHitta31;1221243 said:
The very fact that you are comparing Young to Eli speaks volumes :laugh2:

I know right.. because NO ONE ever considered him to be a viable NFL QB huh? :rolleyes:
 
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