Twitter: Voiding Deals for FINES is not used by any other team in the league

[CWR]

Dallas wants to the ability to void guarantees by any fines, as per the report. That’s no where in the CBA if the report is accurate. the CBA behavioral clause is pertaining to conduct detrimental to the league

Supposedly, it is for fines related to banned substances, failed test etc. If that actually is the case, it is perfectly warranted. Randy has a well documented history.

 

[CWR]

It says any fines. When have you ever heard of a player getting caught with drugs and just getting fined for it?

Yeah that makes sense, they could be covering banned substances as well and that depends on which stage Gregory is in. I don't know if that resets after a certain period of time or you always stay at the later stage.

 

[Brooksey]

It says any fines. When have you ever heard of a player getting caught with drugs and just getting fined for it?

The language is in the CBA..the Cowboys disadvantage is wording it into their contract they way they do, it's unnecessary.
Denver has the same protection, will be able to void Gregory's guarantees for behavior without having it in their contract because it's in the CBA.

 

[Carson]

The language is in the CBA..the Cowboys disadvantage is wording it into their contract they way they do, it's unnecessary.
Denver has the same protection, will be able to void Gregory's guarantees for behavior without having it in their contract because it's in the CBA.

Exactly.

The more and more that comes out, it’s simple. Gregory wanted Denver

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The language is in the CBA..the Cowboys disadvantage is wording it into their contract they way they do, it's unnecessary.
Denver has the same protection, will be able to void Gregory's guarantees for behavior without having it in their contract because it's in the CBA.

Behavior detrimental to the league. The CBA specifically states it has to be negotiated between the team and the player if it’s anything not on the league level. Dallas could have removed guarantees from his deal that Denver won’t have the ability to do based on the fine

 

[unionjack8]

He signed in Denver because he knows he's gonna be suspended again and wants the guaranteed money.

 

[Runwildboys]

It's in the CBA. Article 4, Section 9. Not every team may use it in their contract but every team can enforce it under the CBA.

So in other words, Stephen didn't actually need to add it into the contract? If that's the case, he was actually being more transparent than other teams, including the Broncos.

 

[Merlin]

So in other words, Stephen didn't actually need to add it into the contract? If that's the case, he was actually being more transparent than other teams, including the Broncos.

It's been standard for Dallas contracts for years. His agent is either lying or not familiar with the CBA.

 

[dfense]

Sounds like he knows himself pretty well.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

It's in the CBA. Article 4, Section 9. Not every team may use it in their contract but every team can enforce it under the CBA.

this isn’t true. If it’s not in the behavioral section of the CBA (which typical fines for on field play are not), it must be negotiated into the contract to be enforced

Article 4, Section 9 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap


Voiding of Guarantees. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses) may be voided.


Dallas could remove guarantees for certain fines that Denver can not

 

[Cowboyny]

With all the off the field trouble, the Cowboys have every right to protect themselves. It wasn't just weed, it was other drugs as well. He could fall off the wagon anytime.

 

[Ekspozed]

The fine could be for anything, not just drugs. It shows that neither the DFT, nor a percentage of the fickle fan base, has forgiven his mistakes; yet they want a loyal lap dog. Gregory, you made it out, congratulations.

They stuck with him when every other team in the NFL would of cut him, multiple times. What are you even talking about lol .

Cool he made it out to Denver. Let's see how they handle drug suspensions.

 

[MyFairLady]

I can't believe how lucky we are that we did not get stuck with that fool. Jerry must have been sad to see his special baby boy leave the nest. I wonder who will get the special cloak of protection next. Imagine a locker room where merit was earned instead of granted from above at the whim of a drunken clown.

 

[Merlin]

this isn’t true. If it’s not in the behavioral section of the CBA (which typical fines for on field play are not), it must be negotiated into the contract to be enforced

Article 4, Section 9 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap


Voiding of Guarantees. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses) may be voided.


Dallas could remove guarantees for certain fines that Denver can not

Dallas has been using this clause for years and has never

this isn’t true. If it’s not in the behavioral section of the CBA (which typical fines for on field play are not), it must be negotiated into the contract to be enforced

Article 4, Section 9 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap


Voiding of Guarantees. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses) may be voided.


Dallas could remove guarantees for certain fines that Denver can not

First of all that is only one paragraph of Article 4, Section 9. Dallas has never used the clause before under any circumstances. Please show the Dallas clause because it references Article 4, Section 9. It's standard for just about all contracts except maybe Dak.

Show where Dallas negotiated a special provision that is not already in the CBA.

 

[Merlin]

this isn’t true. If it’s not in the behavioral section of the CBA (which typical fines for on field play are not), it must be negotiated into the contract to be enforced

Article 4, Section 9 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap


Voiding of Guarantees. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses) may be voided.


Dallas could remove guarantees for certain fines that Denver can not

Post the whole paragraph as well.

"Voiding of Guarantees. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses) may be voided. This Subsection (g) only applies to the guarantee aspect of the contract provision, and not to the amount that can be earned, and in no way expands the permissible scope of Forfeitable Salary under this Section.

this isn’t true. If it’s not in the behavioral section of the CBA (which typical fines for on field play are not), it must be negotiated into the contract to be enforced

Article 4, Section 9 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap


Voiding of Guarantees. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses) may be voided.


Dallas could remove guarantees for certain fines that Denver can not

You are making stuff up. Fish posted the language Dallas has used in previous contracts. They are referencing Article 4, Section 9.

The separate negotiated provision that you claim the Cowboys added says, "Player shall be subject to forfeiture of salary to the maximum extent permitted under Article 4, Section 9 of the CBA."

 

[Vtwin]

He signed in Denver because he knows he's gonna be suspended again and wants the guaranteed money.

Why do think he will be suspended again?

 

[Creeper]

This statement came from Gregory's agent. The Cowboys did not insert the language. It is in all their contracts. Dak objected and it was removed. But Dak has not had a drug problem causing him to get suspended. The clause protects the Cowboys in case Gregory relapses.

 

[Blast From The Past]

He's gone and now dead to me. Lets get us a War Daddy in this upcoming draft.

 

[kevm3]

Supposedly, it is for fines related to banned substances, failed test etc. If that actually is the case, it is perfectly warranted. Randy has a well documented history.

If it is warranted, you make sure that point is brought up from the get-go and not slipped in at the end. Also, why would Randy sign here if he has an offer from a competing team that doesn't contain that language? Why would he play himself out of potentially tens of millions of dollars? The cowboys didn't 'work with' Randy Gregory because they were just being good boys. They stood by him because they thought he had immense talent. We seen a peak of it last season and Jerry felt like he was about to reap the rewards of it until Stephen came in and did what he did. \

We also almost lost Demarcus Lawrence this year when Stephen came in with the low ball. I get the impression players don't really like Stephen Jones, especially with the way he has this cold, accountant like, bean counting nature about himself. He doesn't have rapport with the players that Jerry does and him constantly lowballing players is going to put the team in a position to where they are going to start demanding more and more compensation.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Still tellling you guys that got a sniff of Von wanting to come here and added this fluff knowing Randy would rip it off, lol. So says a fan who has no faith in our ownership being smart enough to do this