vs the NYFG... The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

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First off, 4 in a row. This win was more satisfying because it came against some adversity, on the road against a division rival, for all the marbles.

The Good:
*MBIII in as fullback. They ran it twice for good gains,
*The clock in Romo's head, RomoBility. Are the Cowboys on this streak any time in the past 6 years?
*I like it when Shockey drops passes and jumps offsides. Gotta hand it to him playing with that bad hand. I don't like him, but he seems like a tough guy.
*Romo connecting again on 3rd and long. Also getting the Cowboys in position to win with the strike to Witten. He also had TO deeper running wide open.
*I like the rotation of MBIII and JJones. I haven't figured it out, but it's working.
*How many plays has Aaron Glen made this year?
*Demarcus Ware. No sacks, but playing his responsibility. Did he stop Jacobs on that 4th and 1?
*Nice composure by Davis to not retaliate against Burress.
*How did Crayton catch that pass? Great concentration.
*Off topic, but kudos to Jeff Fisher for getting the Colts to burn their last timeout and ultimately win the game.

The Bad:
*TO leads the league in drops (12). That's saying something when you consider the Falcon receivers.
*Where are the crossing routes, the slants,...
*I was afraid Romo was uncorking the Hulk. Not his best performance but to his credit, he found a way to win.
*Not capitalizing on a 16-yard Giants punt.
*Defense drops 2 ints (Ayodele/Glen) on game tying drive.


The Ugly:
*Dear Steve Hoffman, Please forgive me. I was wrong. I'm getting by on meaningless one night stands. I'm searching to no avail. You complete me. Love Always, BP
*Are anybodies unsafeties getting beat as regularly as Dallas>?
*Penalties, but today mostly on NY. 4 unsportsmanlike. I don't even think Oakland can top that. The crackback block on Ware was questionable, and there were several holds that weren't called.


The Bottom Line:
A mortal effort by Romo, but the determination to win. His interviews, his history, his game. It's hard to find something you don't like in Romo. Here's hoping he keeps it together. Signature win, hostile environment, lots of pressure. Great composure by the whole team. Feels good to be rooting for a team in first place instead of last place.
 

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you know you are good when they run away from you!...dware
 

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On the Giants first TD pass to Shockey their LT held our RDE (Hatcher I think) by the jersey for what seemed like an eternity. Ware had flushed Eli to that side and if their LT hadn't held him our DE would have been right in Manning's face and I doubt he would have gotten it off.

I could not believe that the refs missed this hold but as the game went on I realized that this officiating crew was probably the worst in the league as they continued to miss calls on both sides throughout. Some of the calls they did make were very questionable as well, again against both teams.

Is it just me or is the officiating getting worse each season? Someday we will have full-time officials and that should help.
 

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Davis' composure, and Hatcher! The yong buck held it together after Whitfield head butted him. How bout the rook getting in the 15 year vet's head?
 

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Burress pushed a guy that has been shot twice, its goin to take a lot more than that to get Davis mad.
 

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superpunk;1207513 said:
Davis' composure, and Hatcher! The yong buck held it together after Whitfield head butted him. How bout the rook getting in the 15 year vet's head?

Wow there was a lot of unsportsmanlike business from the Giants. Burress on Davis, Whitfield on Hatcher, and the late hit on TG right before our go ahead touchdown in the 4th. Any others?
 

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Bad:

The refs continue to not call holding on the opposing offensive line even when it's extremely blatant. (I can think of once last night that made me question if there was an actual line judge in the game)
 

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Worst of the bad was that there was NO pass rush....forget sacks, we didn't put much pressure on Manning.
 

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GoinForSix;1207519 said:
Wow there was a lot of unsportsmanlike business from the Giants. Burress on Davis, Whitfield on Hatcher, and the late hit on TG right before our go ahead touchdown in the 4th. Any others?

I hated that call on the late hit. Ultimately, it only meant a few yards - but the principle of the thing was crap. I hate that ticky tack garbage. Those were the only three, though.
 

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superpunk;1207525 said:
I hated that call on the late hit. Ultimately, it only meant a few yards - but the principle of the thing was crap. I hate that ticky tack garbage. Those were the only three, though.


Yep, I don't like that kind of call either. You have to make sure the guy is down and out. Bad call except for the fact that he did hit him helmet to helmet.
 

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Whitfield was mugging our guys all day. I watched it closely being it would be a key matchup, but never a call until Whitfields hit Hatcher in the head after a play. Horrible refs
 

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superpunk;1207525 said:
I hated that call on the late hit. Ultimately, it only meant a few yards - but the principle of the thing was crap. I hate that ticky tack garbage. Those were the only three, though.

I disagree. That was a helmet hit when Glenn was out of bounds. Glenn couldn't have stayed in bounds if he wanted too. I wouldn't have a problem with him pushing him to "make sure" he went out even though it really wasn't possible, but to lay wood was the very reason the penalty is called "Unnecessary Roughness". It wasn't necessary. The reason for the rule is to protect players. It was called and It should have been called period.

As for the Burress hit. Burress said he didn't hear the whisle. I beleive him, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a late hit. He was just trying to show that he doesn't give up on plays. Burress isn't stupid. He wouldn't had done that if he had heard the whisle.
 

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dr_hefley;1207446 said:
First off, 4 in a row. This win was more satisfying because it came against some adversity, on the road against a division rival, for all the marbles.



The Bottom Line:
A mortal effort by Romo, but the determination to win. His interviews, his history, his game. It's hard to find something you don't like in Romo. Here's hoping he keeps it together. Signature win, hostile environment, lots of pressure. Great composure by the whole team. Feels good to be rooting for a team in first place instead of last place.

Good post
 

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Whitfield was a holding machine. I saw one play where he actually had his hand hooked inside the front of hatcher's jersey. Inside the front of the collar. He did that to Ayodele as well.

The TG call should have been helmet to helmet, not a late hit. Guy lead with his helmet right into TGs facemask area.
 

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nyc;1207563 said:
I disagree. That was a helmet hit when Glenn was out of bounds. Glenn couldn't have stayed in bounds if he wanted too. I wouldn't have a problem with him pushing him to "make sure" he went out even though it really wasn't possible, but to lay wood was the very reason the penalty is called "Unnecessary Roughness". It wasn't necessary. The reason for the rule is to protect players. It was called and It should have been called period.

As for the Burress hit. Burress said he didn't hear the whisle. I beleive him, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a late hit. He was just trying to show that he doesn't give up on plays. Burress isn't stupid. He wouldn't had done that if he had heard the whisle.
On the call, I believe they stated it was a late hit. It really wasn't, it was a bang-bang play, Glenn was headed out, but his foot hadn't touched down yet. Ultimately, it was meaningless, only 3 yards or so were picked up. But I know, if it was the Cowboys, and Davis layed Muhammed out along the sideline in a critical situation in a playoff game and got flagged for something that close - I'd hate it. You hit people when you get the chance. This isn't tiddly-winks.
 

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superpunk;1207513 said:
Davis' composure, and Hatcher! The yong buck held it together after Whitfield head butted him. How bout the rook getting in the 15 year vet's head?

Just before Whitfield head butted Hatcher, Whitfield had already pushed Hatcher in the back. Hatcher got by him and then held up his rush because Manning did not have the ball. Whitfield went ahead and just slammed into Hatchers back. When I saw there was a penalty, I thought that may be what they were calling and I was worried that they got Hatcher for retaliating. I was surprised that Hatcher was just mouthing off and Whitfield head butted him. I was a little surprised that he wasn't ejected for it.

I thought it was Bradie James that dropped the interception.

The crack back was not questionable. The receiver can not start on the outside and then come back in and block below the waist. It is the same penalty that T.O. had in the first Giants game. It is a penalty every time. I think Crayton got away with one later in the game although I only saw it once. He may not have started to the outside.
 

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superpunk;1207577 said:
On the call, I believe they stated it was a late hit. It really wasn't, it was a bang-bang play, Glenn was headed out, but his foot hadn't touched down yet. Ultimately, it was meaningless, only 3 yards or so were picked up. But I know, if it was the Cowboys, and Davis layed Muhammed out along the sideline in a critical situation in a playoff game and got flagged for something that close - I'd hate it. You hit people when you get the chance. This isn't tiddly-winks.
On the out of bounds, play Glenn was hit helmet-to-helmet. If the defender doesn't do this, the penalty probably isn't called.
 

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AtlCB;1207607 said:
On the out of bounds, play Glenn was hit helmet-to-helmet. If the defender doesn't do this, the penalty probably isn't called.

I don't believe that's what the ref said when he announced the penalty. I believe he declared it a late hit, out of bounds. Even if it was helmet to helmet, they generally only call that on hits to the QBs. It's not like the defender led with the helmet. Like I said - ultimately, it didn't matter. But I'd hate to have such a close call go against us.
 
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