Ware vs Parsons - Playoff Edition

[BleedSilverandBlue]

I don't disagree with you at all.

Yet all I have seen when it comes to Ware since Parsons started to show his passrushing ability ...

• Ware was a stat padder
• Ware never showed up in a big moment
• Ware never lead the Cowboys to playoff success

I have no doubt that if Parsons left Dallas, he would show something he never was able to show in Big D, just like Ware did.

Yet I can't help but point out to those that labeled Ware a "choke artist" in attempting to prop up Parsons ... yo, Parsons hasn't done anything in "big moments" for you to talk crap about one of the best passrushers in NFL history.

If you think Parsons > Ware ... Cool. But you don't have to be disrespectful to Ware in the process.

People that discredited Ware to prop up Parsons are dumb.

People that pretend Micah is the reason this team isn't winning playoff games are being disingenuous and illogical.

Football, especially on defense, requires 11 men doing their job on any given play. Ware and Micah both suffered from poor team construction around them.

 

[ATXSRT]

Now I KNOW you did not really watch them; because they showed replays that Dware was not guilty; like all too many times his first step was so fast the officials refused to believe he was not
Like I said you never really watched

The penalty was called, doesn't matter. It was 2 offsides called too I think. His mistakes lead to extended drives and points.

 

[SackMaster]

So, the Cowboys playoff failures are on Micah’s shoulders now?

You should go into one of the Dak threads and make the argument “how can Dak be expected to win with a boat anchor like Micah running the entire defense?”

Dak played like crap.

The defense allowed 6 offensive TDs in the Packers first 7 drives.

Both can be true my friend.

 

[Rowdy1]

I see some similarities but imho Parsons is not quite Ware yet. Ware was an absolute monster even in his later years. Parsons is quickly getting there though.

 

[kskboys]

The last series for NE vs Denver in the AFCCG Ware terrored Brady. One of the most critical big time series of plays I have ever seen by a player

and THIS was after the Boys had written Ware off as not deserving of his salary.

Dware was past his prime, no doubt of that. But he sucked it up when it really mattered on that series on that day and that is what to me defines greatness

Once he had a team around him, Ware was exactly what I thought. A top all time pass rusher.

Those who splatter their mouth about him disappearing are simply clueless.

 

[kskboys]

Dak played like crap.

The defense allowed 6 offensive TDs in the Packers first 7 drives.

Both can be true my friend.

Man, I've tried to convey this to so many people, but they just keep repeating the mantra of whatever side they've taken.

 

[kskboys]

Does this forum crap on Ware? I thought he was really respected and loved around here. Is there a poster or two you are taking issue with? Seems a pretty broad brush being used here.

There are some who lack the power to understand the NFL.

 

[kskboys]

I don't disagree with you at all.

Yet all I have seen when it comes to Ware since Parsons started to show his passrushing ability ...

• Ware was a stat padder
• Ware never showed up in a big moment
• Ware never lead the Cowboys to playoff success

I have no doubt that if Parsons left Dallas, he would show something he never was able to show in Big D, just like Ware did.

Yet I can't help but point out to those that labeled Ware a "choke artist" in attempting to prop up Parsons ... yo, Parsons hasn't done anything in "big moments" for you to talk crap about one of the best passrushers in NFL history.

If you think Parsons > Ware ... Cool. But you don't have to be disrespectful to Ware in the process.

Stop listening to BSPN. They are leading you astray.

 

[kskboys]

The last series for NE vs Denver in the AFCCG Ware terrorized Brady. One of the most critical big time series of plays I have ever seen by a player

and THIS was after the Boys had written Ware off as not deserving of his salary.

Dware was past his prime, no doubt of that. But he sucked it up when it really mattered on that series on that day and that is what to me defines greatness

Once Ware got away from the Jerry constructed team, he was a beast in the 4th and in key games. Just think about that.

 

[SackMaster]

Stop listening to BSPN. They are leading you astray.

I don't have cable, and I rarely listen to sports talk radio.

If ESPN has said something similar, its pure coincidence.

 

[Chuck 54]

Ware’s best years were as the OLB in a 3-4.
I believe Parsons would surpass him in the same alignment. Parsons should not be paid a huge bag to play 4-3 DE. A change must be made so the defense can defend the run and Parsons can maximize his talent.

 

[G2]

While true, LT mostly rushed the passer, he was WAY More of a LB than you give him credit for. Or was all 9 of his career INTs just at the LOS?

That was my point, that he rushed the QB

 

[SackMaster]

That was my point, that he rushed the QB

Yet the guy with over 100+ sacks as a Cowboy, and another guy who is only the 2nd player in NFL history to have 13+ sacks in his first 3 years .... do not rush the QB?

 

[DB_Cooper]

I've not missed a game since 2004. He also had those boneheaded offsides penalties against the Giants in 2007 in the playoffs that cost us the game.

Maybe one of the biggest calls in Cowboys history. I’m still not sure he was actually offsides but it was called.

 

[Cmac]

This is a new low......Micah and LT comparison have dipped to Micah and Ware. Next try.....Micah and the late Derrick Thomas comparisons anyone? Let's not do this. Micah should refine his skills, go zero dark thirty, no need to race Tyreek Hill in the Pro Bowl, and then just sit at the negotiating table. He's miles ahead in the talking department off the field, already to his comparisons.

 

[G2]

Yet the guy with over 100+ sacks as a Cowboy, and another guy who is only the 2nd player in NFL history to have 13+ sacks in his first 3 years .... do not rush the QB?

What are you talking about? Yes!

 

[John813]

Does this forum crap on Ware? I thought he was really respected and loved around here. Is there a poster or two you are taking issue with? Seems a pretty broad brush being used here.

There was a time yes.

I get where the OP is coming from.

By year two of Parsons campaign there were a decent amount on here saying Parsons was already better than Ware and how Ware never stepped up like Parsons has. Empty sacks etc...

I think it's silly to bash one to prop the other(not op), but hey, it's a common thing on here. Sure in 10 years we'll have the QB compared to Romo and Dak for stats/wins/etc.

 

[CCBoy]

The Cowboy coaches don't know how to in situational football, to improve team performances as well as make Parsons more effective.

Perhaps the pick up of a dominant large defensive tackle and highly aggressive linebacker would improve that very picture.

Move Parsons back to a LT comparison, or make him a rusher or linebacker.

 

[Einstein]

LT mainly rushed the QB. He barely played snaps anywhere but DE. He didn't have LBer responsibilities. He was a freak of nature at that specific position.

The LT - Parsons comparisons were silly from the start. They continue to get sillier.

LT rarely if ever lined up at DE. He was an OLB in a 3-4 defense. And as far as not having LBer responsibilities just google LT in coverage...

 

[The Natural]

If you would have asked me during either of the last two Novembers I would have said Parsons easily. But his disappearing acts in the playoffs and other big regular season matchups have me looking at this in a different light. Even if you look at the raw numbers the first 3 seasons, Ware doesn't have as many sacks but he made more of his opportunities when he got home causing more forced fumbles. He was also never schemed by offensive coordinators and I can't recall this dude ever sulking on the sidelines. So until the defensive podcaster of the year puts together a full season, I'm giving the edge to Ware.