Was drafting Spears a mistake?

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cowboys41fe said:
That would be not true... I've been saying since Newman that we needed to draft offense...

Let's get real here, the Cowboys haven't spent a #1 on a QB, RB, and WR since the tripplets...

Drafting offense is a good thing, but did Dallas have that many options to choose from the last two seasons?

In the 2005 draft, Dallas needed players for the 3-4. They wanted to change schemes and need players that matched that scheme.

In the 2006 draft, there were not that many offensive guys to choose from. The only offensive players drafted in the first round after the Cowboys picked were Laurence Maroney RB(Pats), Davin Joseph G(Bucs), Santonio Holmes WR(Steelers), DeAngelo Williams RB(Panthers), Marcedes Lewis TE(Jags) and Joseph Addai RB(Colts). Can you really say that any of those guys were worth drafting at 18 for Dallas?

I liked Maroney and Williams, but there was no way they were going to draft a RB. Only one receiver available and Holmes really did not look all world at Ohio State. I would have liked offenisve linemen, but apparently there was only one left worthy in the 1st round by any teams after the 18th pick.

There were 4 offenisve players taken in the first 11 picks, three QBs and Reggie Bush. It would have taken a lot to move up in position to get any of them.

I look at the receivers drafted in the 2nd round and none of them stand out even for only costing a 2nd round pick. Questions with all of them. It was wise to look elsewhere.

I like the idea of drafting some offense, but this past draft was not one where Dallas could get an offensive stud in the 1st round considering where they picked.
 

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Drafting Spears a mistake?

No way.

First, it's way too early to even suggest that.

Secondly.....if I remember correctly, all the NFL teams scouts were salivating over his potential. His combine performances had coaches licking their chops.

How could anyone not take a chance on a guy like that?
 

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Rush 2112 said:
How many #1's have the teams winning the SB's used on QB, RB or WR?

I count one............

Ben R.

That is a weak argument.

Just because it is a recent trend, that doesn't make it the rule.

Dallas used #1s on Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Turned out OK.

NE used a #1 on a RB this year. Pittsburgh a #1 on a WR.

Losers last year used a #1 on a RB and swapped one for a QB. Tried to use one on a WR.

Plenty of ways to build a team. That has been the basic point of the discussion on my part.
 

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The Cowboys are the only team I'm concerned about... I could care less what everyother team does...

All I know is what Jimmy did, and the last time I checked Jimmy's way worked... Everything outside of Jimmy has not...
 

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bayarealightning said:
What scared me about the 2005 draft, was that the Cowboys and Chargers had the same needs. You guys took Ware/Spears and we took Merriman/Castillo. I can live with our picks. Ware is a stud and another stud that you guys have is Canty. Canty is a player and you guys got him in the 4th I believe. So a 3-4 front seven that has Ware, Spears and Canty is a very good to great building block to your new defensive scheme. Is Canty hurt right now? I am surprised that you guys do not talk about him more. The 'Boys did very good.:star:
Something else should be pointed out if the Cowboys drafted Merriman, at 11, and the Chargers drafted Ware, at 12 with the way each team operates the 3-4, Ware, would've been the guy with 10 sacks, and Merriman, with 8 and some of us would've called Merriman, a bust too neither team could go wrong with either player it was a win /win situation.
 

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cowboys41fe said:
The Cowboys are the only team I'm concerned about... I could care less what everyother team does...

All I know is what Jimmy did, and the last time I checked Jimmy's way worked... Everything outside of Jimmy has not...

Landry's way did work? :D
 

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Yeagermeister said:
Landry's way did work? :D

Jimmys way worked like gangbusters on the Dolphins.

Wasnt John Avery MVP?......................OF THE XFL?!
 

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I totally agree with you... Teams need to be balanced not just one sided... BP has built this defense with the draft but has done nothing with the offense as far as the draft... Again at some point a QB needs to be addressed... We can only hope Romo is the guy but even so you need a backup not to mention someone to give Romo a battle for the starting job... That's what Jimmy did drafting Walsh and Aikman...
 

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cowboys41fe said:
JIMMY 3-0, LANDRY 2-3...

Again Jimmy's way worked... No pun to Landry...

Try 2-0 to 2-3

He may have helped build the team but he didn't win the 3rd one
 

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I don't think Jimmy had the same chances to build the Dolphins that he did with the Cowboys whom he build from nothing...
 

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For Dallas to transition into the 3-4 it was important to get a big down lineman. Spears fit that role then and he fits it today. While down lineman in the 3-4 may not have glamour’s stats that does not mean they are not effective.
 

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I stand corrected...

I don't claim that other guy lol... He inherited a SB... Jerry Jones himself could have won a SB that year...
 

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Yeagermeister said:
Landry's way did work? :D

What way was that?

Superbowl VI
A 5th round QB(Staubach)
A 1st round RB(Thomas)
A 7th round WR(Hays)
A trade for a WR(Alworth)

Superbowl XII
A 5th round QB(Staubach)
A 1st round RB(Dorsett)
A UDFA WR(Pearson)
A t2nd round WR(Richards)
 

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Which is why you can always find those type of players after the 1st round... You only draft a pass rushing DE in the 1st round IMO... There are plenty of big bodies to be found in the 3rd, 4th and beyond...
 

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cowboys41fe said:
All I know is what Jimmy did, and the last time I checked Jimmy's way worked... Everything outside of Jimmy has not...

I don't know that the Dolphins would agree with this statement.

So who is the Herschel Walker on this team that we are going to trade for about 342 extra picks? We were drafting 3-4 times as many players when he was drafting, so you had 3-4 times a greater chance of hitting on good players.

I don't understand what you want from this team. Your stance confuses me. You keep talking about offensive players. Is our offense that bad THIS year? last I checked, we have a lot of weapons on offense. You seem to be more concerned with the next couple of years (which we can address in the next draft) vs actually playing the games THIS year.
 

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cowboys41fe said:
I don't think Jimmy had the same chances to build the Dolphins that he did with the Cowboys whom he build from nothing...

Landry had to build the Cowboys from less than nothing. No draft pick his first year. Scrubs and cast offs from other teams. Then he had to rebuild the team while remaining on top. That is the most impressive thing. The roster from the team that one the SB in VI is much different from the one that one in SB XXII. Those teams had good long runs. The 90s Cowboys were great and I loved watching them play, but they did not sustain that long term success and Jimmy did not replicate it again in Miami.

There are many different ways to build a team and a winner. Jimmy can do it, but he doesn't have the blueprint to the only way.
 

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cowboys41fe said:
Which is why you can always find those type of players after the 1st round... You only draft a pass rushing DE in the 1st round IMO... There are plenty of big bodies to be found in the 3rd, 4th and beyond...

I think Dallas was correct in taking him then and feel the same today. I think this group we have on defense has a very good chance to turn into some really special so I'm not going to play the what if game about other players we could have taken. These are our players like it or not.
 
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