Was that the right call at the end?

DandyDon52

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if that is the case when the ref announced who reported eligible the players and Campbell would have heard it.
They had no time outs but had no alternate play they could switch too. it was a mess.
However makes me wonder how the ref could announce 70 instead of 68,,,,, back to conspiracy lol clearly a rigged outcome !
Everyone must have had detroit +5.5 lol
But dan should have went for ot period.
The FG he threw away earlier in the game on one of his go for it, would have had them ahead and they wouldnt need that 2 point play, he is a real bone head!
 

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this one shows all the clips and the 2 guys talk at the end and one is a rules expert.

In the clip the ref ignored 68 and the other guy, then as soon as # 70 started in his direction the ref ran to the dallas line, and told them who was eligible,
and wanted to start the play continuing to ignore detroit players.

Also that play even if the ref messed up on who was eligible is not reviewable so he could sabotage the lions and thats it, cant be undone.
It was odd the way that ref acted there.
 

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So, the plan was for #70 to run out there from the sideline to make it look like he was reporting as eligible even though the ref has to report which players are eligible to the cowboys defense. And, the only person who got tricked by it was the ref. Classic.
 
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Simple in my book. The lions were not good enough to beat the Cowboys , so they tried to be sneaky about which player was eligible. It bit them in the A. :lmao:
 

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There is a video on twitter taken from the Spanish coverage of the game and on that video you can clearly hear the ref announce #70 as eligible. He never mentions #68. I don't know if the Lions heard this or not but what it means is the refs announced to the Cowboys defense, and everyone else, that #70 was the eligible receiver and that meant the Cowboys did not have to worry about covering #68. Did the refs get it wrong? Who knows? The point is they announced it making it the official status of the players on the field.

Now to clear up some other misconceptions. #68 lined up on the end of the left side of the Lions offense. Contrary to what people are saying, he was NOT covered. There is a receiver next to him but he is off the LOS. He is not far off, but the refs are very lenient with that these days. He was far enough off to be considered in the backfield.

On the other side of the line #70 lines up inside another offensive lineman. He was covered by the offensive lineman who was ineligible AND a WR. If 70 was eligible as the refs announced this is an illegal formation. If #68 was eligible and #70 ineligible, this was a legal formation even though there were 3 ineligible players on the right side and only 1 on the left.

According to the rules, with 68 ineligible, and 70 eligible, the Lions committed illegal touching,, illegal formation, and ineligible man downfield. The refs called illegal touching. To them, it was illegal touching because 68 was ineligible. If they thought 70 reported as eligible then their call was exactly right.

So what happened? Before the game Campbell went to the refs and explained the play to them, he says. I imagine what he was explaining is that three linemen would approach them but only 1 would be eligible. Otherwise, what is there to explain? Players report as eligible to the refs all the time, but normally only 1 guys goes to the ref and reports. Was Campbell asking the refs to participate in a deception to fool the Cowboys? How could he do that? And why would the refs want to be part of that? Regardless, whether he explained it or not, the ineligible player still has to report to the refs before the play to be eligible. It is the players responsibility to make sure the refs understands his reporting. It is not the refs job to help deceive the Cowboys. Prior to that play, #68 and #58 were already on the field. #70 came in off the bench and ran up to the ref. Why? He says he didn't report or say anything? Then why was he going up to the refs? Same with #58? Again, this was to deceive the Cowboys defense. Instead, they deceived the refs and themselves.

It is an awful way to end a game, and I am fairly certain even if 68 did report correctly and the Cowboys were informed he was eligible, they play still would have worked because the Cowboys defense was on its heels at that point. They get the W, but as far as I am concerned they deserve a lot of criticism for the way they handled the end of the game on both offense and defense.
 

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A Miracle has occurred!

Out of nowhere...CowboyZoners are taking whatever explanation THE REFS give as gospel!

I'm gonna go outside and watch some pigs soaring through the air!

I hope ole Lucifer has a winter coat....I hear there's 10 inches of snow on the ground "down there"

:D :D

This forum cracks me up....BUT, BUT...THE REFS!!!! (ARE RIGHT????) LOL
 

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:D:p:p:D:pI'm seeing a lot of Lions and non-Cowboys fans complaining about this, but are quiet about that tripping play called on Hendershot when it should have been on Hutchinson.
Everyone in here always says the timing of penalties is the most crucial...and even when we have equal # of penalties as the other team, ours are always at crucial moments so are far worse.

This flag takes the game on the last real play of the game from the Lions and handed it to us.... now all of a sudden it's "well, even if it was a bad call, the Lions jumped offsides in the 1st quarter and it wasn't called , so it's even"

LMAO.....THIS BOARD NEVER STOPS MAKING ME LAUGH
 

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The Victim Mentality refuses to simply say "well, we lucked out here and we had one handed to us. We'd be LIVID if this was us"

The Victim Mentality won't allow that.. .because then the next time WE were on the wrong end of a missed call, we wouldn't be able to whine and cry "BUT....BUT....THE REFS!!!!!"
 

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The bigger mystery is why the Lions didnt kick on the 2 other attempts. Campbell letting macho emotion get the better of sound decision making. The loss is on him.
 

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The Victim Mentality refuses to simply say "well, we lucked out here and we had one handed to us. We'd be LIVID if this was us"

The Victim Mentality won't allow that.. .because then the next time WE were on the wrong end of a missed call, we wouldn't be able to whine and cry "BUT....BUT....THE REFS!!!!!"
Cowboys won. Yaaaay.
 

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It is clear in the video that Skipper runs right at the official and gets his attention before the play. What else would he be doing besides reporting eligible?
 

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It was legal, refs screwed that call, going to hear an apology from the league later this week...
You know what you won’t hear?

The Conspiracy Crew on the board whining about how the league is rigged against us.

They’ll forget about this game (like the Seattle game) and wait for their next opportunity to lament.
 
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