Waters vs. Suh

[big dog cowboy]

Given that Suh was just fined yet again for his hit on Weeden, I do wonder if perhaps he plays a touch tentative this week and next until he has his meeting with league officials.

His temper probably won't allow him to wait that long. He sees a flashy star on the side of Romo's helmet and his focus will be on making another hit.

 

[Crown Royal]

This will not happen. I think Suh/Waters is going to be a beast mode type encounter. I'm actually worried about Detroits Interior Defensive Front. They are exactly the type of team that has given us problems defensively this year.

They really aren't though. Teams that give us problems are the ones who generate pressure through the blitz, usually getting free rushers onto Romo and cover the hot route. Detroit relies on pressure with their front four. If we can block them, then I think Romo distributes the ball.

This game is a test between what looks to have become a strength for us (the OL) and their defensive strength (DL). If we hold their pressure game in check, I get very excited about us this year.

 

[starfrombirth]

This will not happen. I think Suh/Waters is going to be a beast mode type encounter. I'm actually worried about Detroits Interior Defensive Front. They are exactly the type of team that has given us problems defensively this year.

Remember that arcade game where the movies monsters were destroying the city?? That's the image you just gave me. I just hope it's our monsters destroying Suh city.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

They really aren't though. Teams that give us problems are the ones who generate pressure through the blitz, usually getting free rushers onto Romo and cover the hot route. Detroit relies on pressure with their front four. If we can block them, then I think Romo distributes the ball.

This game is a test between what looks to have become a strength for us (the OL) and their defensive strength (DL). If we hold their pressure game in check, I get very excited about us this year.

Nope. The teams that give us problems defensively are the ones who can neutralize Fredbeard. He has issues with bigger, quicker NTs/DTs. See KC, SD and Denver.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

The refs are trigger happy to flag Suh, given his sleazy past. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see our offense spotted 15 yards via a Suh penalty.

 

[Crown Royal]

Nope. The teams that give us problems defensively are the ones who can neutralize Fredbeard. He has issues with bigger, quicker NTs/DTs. See KC, SD and Denver.

Don't know what Denver has to do with it, they didn't stop anyone and played coverage the whole game.

KC also blitzed the hell out of the Cowboys. Poe definitely won his battles, but keeping the pressure up through crowding the line really rattled us more.

I feel the same with SD.

 

[jobberone]

It was fairly early in the quarter, maybe 10 min. to go. Their second possession of the half.

Ok. Thanks. That's a dicey situation. I do agree you can't just run three times and punt but there is a point in not turning the ball over esp deep in your own territory and more esp a pick six. So I agree it's not an open and shut case even late in the 3rd much less early on. But I probably would have run at least one if not two plays before throwing it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Don't know what Denver has to do with it, they didn't stop anyone and played coverage the whole game.

KC also blitzed the hell out of the Cowboys. Poe definitely won his battles, but keeping the pressure up through crowding the line really rattled us more.

I feel the same with SD.

Do you recall the Interception? They did it with three pass rushers. They were able to get pressure late in that game with 3 and 4 guys. They dropped LBs and just played us straight up and got pressure. SD controlled us on both sides of the line. Sacked Romo 3 times and pressured him all day. Liuget, Thomas and Reyes handled us in that game. Their OL also had a good game against us. Dominated TOP, had over 500 yards on us, ran for over 100 and averaged 4.1 YPC,

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I'm

How do you all see this battle? Waters has been solid for us the last couple of weeks but Suh is a hand full.

I'm more concerned with Fairley vs Leary . Leary is the OL weak link .

 

[Kevinicus]

Do you recall the Interception? They did it with three pass rushers. They were able to get pressure late in that game with 3 and 4 guys. They dropped LBs and just played us straight up and got pressure. SD controlled us on both sides of the line. Sacked Romo 3 times and pressured him all day. Liuget, Thomas and Reyes handled us in that game. Their OL also had a good game against us. Dominated TOP, had over 500 yards on us, ran for over 100 and averaged 4.1 YPC,

You use one play to describe the game? Denver didn't give the offense problems, there is just no way you can say they did. And SD got most of their pressure the first series and after that not nearly as much (not sure what their offensive performance has to do with anything?).

I'm not sure why anyone thinks Detroit has a defense, they're ranked 31st, and a 4-3, in a dome. To me that says it's going to be a big day for Tony, and maybe Murray/Randle as well.

 

[DuceizBak]

The refs are trigger happy to flag Suh, given his sleazy past. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see our offense spotted 15 yards via a Suh penalty.

I hope this happens;without anybody getting hurt obviously

 

[sideon]

Right, because everyone knows that when you have a nice lead in the THIRD QUARTER it's time to just hand the ball off 3 times and punt on every possession you get!

Better yet, why risk a fumble? Just kneel 3 times and punt.

(Boy, do we have some stupid fans)

Yeah why run the ball even though they were running it efficiently it made perfect sense to throw it on 3rd & 1 which wound up being a pick 6, btw the fact that your brain went straight to running the ball 3 times and punting with no middle ground shows your lack of intelligence.

 

[Nav22]

Yeah why run the ball even though they were running it efficiently it made perfect sense to throw it on 3rd & 1 which wound up being a pick 6, btw the fact that your brain went straight to running the ball 3 times and punting with no middle ground shows your lack of intelligence.

Hahahahaha.

#1, I promise you my IQ is higher than yours. So don't hurt yourself too badly here.

#2, I don't care how efficiently we were running the ball. We were also THROWING the ball efficiently. The game is FAR from over when it's a 24 point lead in the 3rd quarter, especially when you're playing vs an explosive offense (which ended up getting back on track after all... surprise, surprise!). If you play it safe and don't move the ball, you're inviting a comeback anyways.

#3, be specific... what middle ground are you referring to? Running 80% of the time rather than 50% of the time? Throwing nothing but bubble screens? I love how when a play-call doesn't work, know-nothing fans immediately blame the play-call as if they're better-suited for the job. Isn't hindsight great? As if the PLAYERS aren't responsible for executing whatever play is called. It's funny to me. You're funny to me.

 

[Nav22]

when you're winning 24 nothing and have a QB with a propensity for bad turnovers, that's exactly what you freaking do.

And not for nothing, the pick-six, IIRC, was because Robinson didn't run his slant route properly. It wasn't entirely Romo's mistake.

Who was our QB "with a propensity for bad turnovers"? Brad Johnson? Pretty sure it was Romo starting and playing terrific ball up until that point, like he has for most of his outstanding career.

He threw 2 pick-sixes which cut the Lions' deficit to 10. The rest of the comeback happened thanks to Detroit's terrific offense getting back on track.

So how do you know we win the game if we keep going 3-and-out and punting (like you suggested)? You don't.

Same people whining about the play-calls would be whining if we went conservative, kept punting, and Detroit got back into the game that way. Hindsight rules!

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I hope this happens;without anybody getting hurt obviously

If he does something, then, yes, I want those yards. My preference, however, would be for Suh to play a clean game and just get beaten. For NCAA football I'm a Nebraska fan. I used to love to watch Suh tear up the field in college. I've been disappointed by his attitude in the NFL. I don't know what got into him. I know other Nebraska fans who are also disgusted with him and feel like he gives the state a bad name. He's got great talent that I'd hate to see him throw away. I used to wish he would play for the Cowboys, but now I don't know.

 

[Future]

Who was our QB "with a propensity for bad turnovers"? Brad Johnson? Pretty sure it was Romo starting and playing terrific ball up until that point, like he has for most of his outstanding career.

He threw 2 pick-sixes which cut the Lions' deficit to 10. The rest of the comeback happened thanks to Detroit's terrific offense getting back on track.

So how do you know we win the game if we keep going 3-and-out and punting (like you suggested)? You don't.

Same people whining about the play-calls would be whining if we went conservative, kept punting, and Detroit got back into the game that way. Hindsight rules!

Yea, Tony has a propensity for turnovers. Always has.

And the Lions offense had shown nothing in the first half to suggest that they were going to get on track, and even if they did, scoring 24 without giving up a point is really difficult. So yes, we should have gone far more conservative b/c it gave the team the best chance to win.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm

I'm more concerned with Fairley vs Leary . Leary is the OL weak link .

I agree. Fairley could be a very disruptive player. Leary and Fredbeard need to play their A games for sure.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You use one play to describe the game? Denver didn't give the offense problems, there is just no way you can say they did. And SD got most of their pressure the first series and after that not nearly as much (not sure what their offensive performance has to do with anything?).

No, you have turned the statement around to support your position. However, that is not what I said. I said that they used 3 and 4 man rushes the entire 4th quarter and that it created issues, clearly. Try again please.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks Detroit has a defense, they're ranked 31st, and a 4-3, in a dome. To me that says it's going to be a big day for Tony, and maybe Murray/Randle as well.

Last week, Philly was ranked 31st defensively and we were ranked 2nd in the League in points scored. We put up 17 points. Did you make the same argument there?

 

[TTexasTT]

(Boy, do we have some stupid fans)

I bet you feel like a big man calling other members stupid. Atleast its safe to do it over the internet... Though just as unnecessary.

 

[Doomsday101]

Really do not get all this Suh talk. Det sucks vs the run and the pass Suh and the defensive front of Detriot is not the best we have or will face. Suh is a dirty player that is it outside of that he has done nothing. I expect Waters and Leary to kick his ars. Sorry the man deserves no respect