Way Way Too Much Parcells - Way too much

[Faerluna]

Let's have 20 more threads to rehash the same thing the other BP have over and over. It gives me that same warm, borderline OCD feeling that the multiple TO posts did.

<3

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Control freaks control

Control freaks control even more when they feel threatened.

I do not like the tone of this message and I will ask you to refrain from doing this type of thing again or I will be forced to use the mute button on you knave.

 

[iceberg]

BS guy he is not running from nothing and it is not uncommon to see a coach or player step away for a few days after the season is over to contemplate what they want to do, it happens every year around the league. Right after the season is over is the time to do that.

doom - let's be real, ok?

mort said bp was going to retire.
bill went apecaca and demanded who said that cause he never did.
demanded people stand up and say they told him that.

no one did and bp ranted about how stupid that was.

we're out of the playoffs, team comes out flatter than my jr. high girlfriend and he needs to "get away to decide what he wants to do".

those are HIS words, doom, NOT MINE. i did not say bp doesn't know what he wants to do - i quoted bill saying HE didn't know. you may hate this all you want but when someone says they don't know what *they* want to do, they probably don't. if they DON'T know, then there's a better than average chance they don't know what to do with the world around them.

bp is lost right now - FLAT OUT. he gets mad if you notice then wants pity when he says he is.

screw bp - stop the pity party, get off your arse and DO SOMETHING.

if he needs time away - TAKE IT. GO RUN BE FREE! he and drew can go running through the flower fields of spring with the carpenters "close to you" playing in the background for all i care. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO if you said that's what you need to do to sort things out.

instead he's back in his office, just like the days before, and probably listening to "staying alive" instead and not skipping much of anything, especially his meals.

you can defend bp all you want, doom. but you can't refute the facts in that:

it was reported he'd retire.
he got angry and denied it all
he lost and said "i dunno, i may quit, i need to think..."

that's a lost man dude. i know, i've been there. i don't begrudge him for being lost, i begrudge him for putting himself before the team.

that and his choice of background music.

 

[Jarv]

I want a coach who I think knows what he is doing and I do think Bill fully knows what he is doing despite what some fans may think. I have seen this man build a team and turn that team around and yes I still believe Bill will get this team turned around. As for the QB situation I think he has a better ideal about where our 2 young QB's are then anyone out there. There seems to be this mindset that since the fans have not seen the young QB's on the field that no one knows where they are in the learning process well I think Bill and his staff do know.

I think we have a little miscomunnication going on here. Or maybe not...lol.

What I am saying, as it stands now, BP is here 1 more year. Then we changes systems again. He has 1 year to get it "turned around" as you say. Even if he does get it turned around in 1 year. In 2007 we hire a new HC, new staff and most probably a new offensive and defensive system.

How long does it take a team to adjust in your opinion ? What will 2007 look like in your opinion with a new HC ?

I might have been more on board with BP if he implemented the 3-4 his 1st year here, can you imagine what our D could be like now ? But he didn't, he waited until his 3rd year before doing that.

So, come 2007, we'll probably will have more and better skilled players for the 3-4 D. But what if we (or Jerry really) chooses what he consideres to be the "Best new HC candidate and he prefers the 4-3 ? Not saying it will happen, but it could.

What if the new HC has and different Offensive approach ? We'll be starting again there too.

I guess I'm looking more at the long term effects of the organization than I am in the short term advantage of Keeping BP here for 1 more year.

Are you on board with Bledsoe as the QB in 2007 ? I can almost guarentee you BP will not be making QB a prioirty here if he's coming back for just 1 more year. Won't help him look good at all, he wants to go for broke next year at all cost.

That is why I advocate changing head coach's now vs 2007. We have young talent and BP has done a good job aquiring that talent. Now lets take that talent and put them in systems that will be in place for years to come, not just 1 more year and have them learn new systems all over again in 2007.

Why did Landry have 20 straight years of playoff apperance ? Same coach same system for 20 years...consistancy.

Your handle is Doomday...Man I miss those days. The Doomsday defense was the same D that got us in the playoffs 20 straight years.

Pick a defensive system...3-4...4-3...I don't care (By the way, Landry invented the 4-3 defense), but lets stick with it for years...let the players become so familuar with it they don't even have to think about their assignments but rather attack !

Same for the offense, i want players that Like Peyton Manning, Brady that has been in system for years and no it by heart...know exactly what to do at all times.

You just don't get that when you constantly change systems. It just not what I want for our team in 2007.

 

[Concord]

Dooms, say everything stay status Quo. BP stays one more year, like his contract stipulates. Then leaves after next year. Best case snerio we win the Superbowl next year (are we there yet ?) worst case we miss the playoff's.

Then of course that puts us in transition again in 2007 with new coach's and systems. Going forward with the 3-4...or maybe the new coach likes the 4-3 ? Probably or most likely a new offense and a 35 year old QB who is now a FA.

And unless BP has a change of heart next year, 2 backup QB's who never see the light of day in games wether they are meanless or not...wether we are mathmatically eliminated from the plaoffs or not. And if he's here just 1 more year will not even consider drafting a QB in the 1st round, because that will not help his 1 year plan.

Is that what you want ? I have soured on BP over the last month I will admit. I'm with Juke 100%. The only situation I see that might work is if he is willing to sign for at least 3 more years, without waivering (Which I highly doubt, but whatever)...or he is let go this year so we can put the new system and coach into play now, so the young guys we draft on offense along with what we have now...can be in the same system for a few years.

That's the problem...He could sign a 10 Year contract and it would be the same crap every year.

Is he going stay...is he going to retire...is he going to ESPN...is he going to go live in his new house that we just found out about .

I want a coach who wants to be here for the next 10 years no question.

As long as we want him of course.

 

[Jarv]

That's the problem...He could sign a 10 Year contract and it would be the same crap every year.

Is he going stay...is he going to retire...is he going to ESPN...is he going to go live in his new house that we just found out about .

I want a coach who wants to be here for the next 10 years no question.

As long as we want him of course.

Thank you.

 

[Concord]

doom - let's be real, ok?

mort said bp was going to retire.
bill went apecaca and demanded who said that cause he never did.
demanded people stand up and say they told him that.

no one did and bp ranted about how stupid that was.

we're out of the playoffs, team comes out flatter than my jr. high girlfriend and he needs to "get away to decide what he wants to do".

those are HIS words, doom, NOT MINE. i did not say bp doesn't know what he wants to do - i quoted bill saying HE didn't know. you may hate this all you want but when someone says they don't know what *they* want to do, they probably don't. if they DON'T know, then there's a better than average chance they don't know what to do with the world around them.

bp is lost right now - FLAT OUT. he gets mad if you notice then wants pity when he says he is.

screw bp - stop the pity party, get off your arse and DO SOMETHING.

if he needs time away - TAKE IT. GO RUN BE FREE! he and drew can go running through the flower fields of spring with the carpenters "close to you" playing in the background for all i care. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO if you said that's what you need to do to sort things out.

instead he's back in his office, just like the days before, and probably listening to "staying alive" instead and not skipping much of anything, especially his meals.

you can defend bp all you want, doom. but you can't refute the facts in that:

it was reported he'd retire.
he got angry and denied it all
he lost and said "i dunno, i may quit, i need to think..."

that's a lost man dude. i know, i've been there. i don't begrudge him for being lost, i begrudge him for putting himself before the team.

that and his choice of background music.

Don't degrade that song by associating it with Parcells and Bledsoe...I love Karen Carpenters voice!

 

[Concord]

Thank you.

You're welcome...I can't see why people are ok with this.

I know we have had bad coaches after Johnson but Jones has shown that he can hire a respected coach now...He will do it again and there will be life and good life after Parcells.

 

[Clove]

He insisted on a 3-4 with a 4-3 DC in Zimmer , after he stopped Zimmer from going for a Big College Job. I heard it said that this was "Bill's " defense - his gameplan etc not Zim's - Zim is basically a Signal Giver

Don't have a problem with the 3-4 (16th last year 10th this year) with 9 new starters and 3 rookies..That's a hell of a job..

 

[Jarv]

Don't have a problem with the 3-4 (16th last year 10th this year) with 9 new starters and 3 rookies..That's a hell of a job..

Now lets see if we are still using the 3-4 in 2007 with a new HC. Better hope so so we don't have to change personel and teach players a new system again.

 

[Clove]

Now lets see if we are still using the 3-4 in 2007 with a new HC. Better hope so so we don't have to change personel and teach players a new system again.

The problem is not the 3-4, it's personell, and for having 4 glaring spots needed in this defense, I say we did pretty darn good. On the other hand, you can't pick up a 4-3 DC now that you have this personell..Just stay with it and get the offense together.