We are crowded on the DL

[jazzcat22]

without being able to factor in injuries...who stays and who goes?

1. Taco Charlton
2. Demarcus Lawerence
3. Malik Collins
4. Benson Mayowa
5. Cedric Thornton
6. David Irving
7. Tyrone Crawford
8. Charles Tapper
9. Damontre Moore
10.Stephen Paea

Randy Gregory

Jordan Carrell
Joey Ivie
Lenny Jones
Richard Ash


Not sure how many UDFA's we got

Lewis Neal??

Your 10 listed is who I have penciled in also. This can create some competition and make them all better.
I usually start out long on the DL, as that last 1 or 2 to get to 9 or 8 is tough at times.
I have Ivie and Carrell on the PS.
The bubble guys here, to be released if they keep less than 10, in no order, Paea, Moore, and a surprsie cut, Thornton if Paea beats him out.
However I think Thornton picks up the scheme better in his 2nd year here, and surprises people.

 

[noletime95]

Your 10 listed is who I have penciled in also. This can create some competition and make them all better.
I usually start out long on the DL, as that last 1 or 2 to get to 9 or 8 is tough at times.
I have Ivie and Carrell on the PS.
The bubble guys here, to be released if they keep less than 10, in no order, Paea, Moore, and a surprsie cut, Thornton if Paea beats him out.
However I think Thornton picks up the scheme better in his 2nd year here, and surprises people.

Thorton and Paea will fill different rolls and I expect both on the roster.

 

[jazzcat22]

I could see 10 but IMO, I think Dallas will go long at DB (DB's help more on special teams than DL) which would make it more difficult to go 10 on the DL. I think 9 is the more likely scenario.

CB:
1. Awuzie
2. Lewis
3. Brown
4. Carroll
5. Scandrick

S:
6. B Jones
7. Heath
8. Woods
9. Frazier
10. Blanton

White on Practice Squad

Blanton and Frazier would be the ones in jeopardy of losing their jobs. It will all depend on how they play in camp and on special teams. Also, with the flex some of those corners have to move to safety, Blanton or Frazier could get cut for White if he plays well enough.

A lot of questions about both DL and the secondary at this point.

Same 10 I have penciled in for now. If they go with only 9, my 3 competing not to be released, Blanton, Woods, Frazier. I have no feel for any of them, but leaning to Woods going to the PS, only becasue e is a 6th round draft pick, and the others have NFL experience.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Financially it doesn't make sense until next offseason.

Agreed.

 

[CowboyRoy]

without being able to factor in injuries...who stays and who goes?

1. Taco Charlton
2. Demarcus Lawerence
3. Malik Collins
4. Benson Mayowa
5. Cedric Thornton
6. David Irving
7. Tyrone Crawford
8. Charles Tapper
9. Damontre Moore
10.Stephen Paea

Randy Gregory

Jordan Carrell
Joey Ivie
Lenny Jones
Richard Ash


Not sure how many UDFA's we got

Lewis Neal??

How about we just look at the guys that have a shot to be something special. The rest are just bodies or will be gone soon.

Taco
Collins
Irvin
Tapper

And Tapper is a big if in my opinion.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

How about we just look at the guys that have a shot to be something special. The rest are just bodies or will be gone soon.

Taco
Collins
Irvin
Tapper

And Tapper is a big if in my opinion.

I wouldn't sell Mayowa short... Once he got back onto the field he was a terror the rest of the season.

6 sacks in 350 snaps is a very good ratio.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Same 10 I have penciled in for now. If they go with only 9, my 3 competing not to be released, Blanton, Woods, Frazier. I have no feel for any of them, but leaning to Woods going to the PS, only becasue e is a 6th round draft pick, and the others have NFL experience.

No. Woods is NOT going to the PS. Not if the team wants to keep him. He would instantly be gobbled up.

 

[jazzcat22]

No. Woods is NOT going to the PS. Not if the team wants to keep him. He would instantly be gobbled up.

This is why he lasted until the 6th round?
Same thing was said about Darius Jackson last year. He was kept until late in the season.

I am pulling for Woods, don't get me wrong. And I can see where they would keep him. However people get emotionally tied to draft prospects. Like some did Jackson last year.
Heck I do it, I like the Noah Brown pick, and hope they keep 6 WR's and keep him protected as they would with Woods. But I also can see where they hope to get him to the PS, and let him compete for a spot next year.

 

[BourbonBalz]

This is why he lasted until the 6th round?
Same thing was said about Darius Jackson last year. He was kept until late in the season.

I am pulling for Woods, don't get me wrong. And I can see where they would keep him. However people get emotionally tied to draft prospects. Like some did Jackson last year.
Heck I do it, I like the Noah Brown pick, and hope they keep 6 WR's and keep him protected as they would with Woods. But I also can see where they hope to get him to the PS, and let him compete for a spot next year.

I'm not emotionally tied to him at all. I'm just telling you that if he was put on the PS, he would be gone very quickly. I feel 100% sure of it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I wouldn't sell Mayowa short... Once he got back onto the field he was a terror the rest of the season.

6 sacks in 350 snaps is a very good ratio.

I thought about putting Mayowa in there. I'm just not feeling it. Throw him in there if you want.

 

[LocimusPrime]

How about we just look at the guys that have a shot to be something special. The rest are just bodies or will be gone soon.

Taco
Collins
Irvin
Tapper

And Tapper is a big if in my opinion.

Agreed...tapper is a big time if!

 

[FLcowboy]

without being able to factor in injuries...who stays and who goes?

1. Taco Charlton
2. Demarcus Lawerence
3. Malik Collins
4. Benson Mayowa
5. Cedric Thornton
6. David Irving
7. Tyrone Crawford
8. Charles Tapper
9. Damontre Moore
10.Stephen Paea

Randy Gregory

Jordan Carrell
Joey Ivie
Lenny Jones
Richard Ash


Not sure how many UDFA's we got

Lewis Neal??

Looks to me like a big battle looms in training vamp, if all make it that far. Obviously, the holdovers from last year ought to be feeling the heat' Thornton and Lawrence for sure are on the hot seat.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

However I think Thornton picks up the scheme better in his 2nd year here, and surprises people.

He really struggled at first. Then he got consistently better. I am interested to see where he ends up as he has good quickness and strength for the position.

 

[Sydla]

I'd seriously just cut Gregory at this point... he's not helping anyone... I'd rather keep one of the high motor 7th rounders... I'll wish him all the luck and vote to legalize when the time comes but he's wasting space.

Nah.

The kid is likely done but there's no reason to cut him at this point if you still have him under contract. And most definitely, I keep him because of his upside over some 7th round, Marinelli pet cat who has no talent but tries really hard.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I thought about putting Mayowa in there. I'm just not feeling it. Throw him in there if you want.

You're a kind person.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Nah.

The kid is likely done but there's no reason to cut him at this point if you still have him under contract. And most definitely, I keep him because of his upside over some 7th round, Marinelli pet cat who has no talent but tries really hard.

Exactly right.

The guy is 24 now.

Maybe when he's 27 or 28, he'll have beaten his issues and will have something to offer as a pass rusher.

No, I wouldn't release him. I'd hang on to his rights for as long as I could and it was realistic.

 

[xwalker]

Your 10 listed is who I have penciled in also. This can create some competition and make them all better.
I usually start out long on the DL, as that last 1 or 2 to get to 9 or 8 is tough at times.
I have Ivie and Carrell on the PS.
The bubble guys here, to be released if they keep less than 10, in no order, Paea, Moore, and a surprsie cut, Thornton if Paea beats him out.
However I think Thornton picks up the scheme better in his 2nd year here, and surprises people.

I'm oddly interest to see Moore.

Obviously I want to see Taco and Tapper, but Moore is interesting.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

One DL is going to go on IR....always happens.

 

[Knotamus]

who stays and who goes?

Sure seems like a lot of pessimistic opinions on this thread..I'm more more optimistic than most I guess. I seen improvements on this DL throughout the year and believe the influx of youth will pay dividends. Players love playing under Marinelli because of the simplicity of his defensive scheme..which bodes well for the young guys to shine early and hopefully often. Unfortunately, we don't have a true RDE like DWare, but if your thought we was going to get that guy in the draft..then you disappointed yourself. Marinelli intends to use a collection of young disruptive DLineman to get the job done. To stay on topic, I briefly described by opinions and predictions. I went with ten DL, but injuries may sort this out before game day.

1. Taco Charlton (all along DL)
An under appreciated player that won't scream off the edge but will be a handful for OL and reek havoc much like Irving and will earn more snaps toward the end of the year. He is a rookie, so my expectations are tempered, but once he's settled in.. I truly see a 10-12 sack a year player. (5-6 sacks this year)
2. Demarcus Lawerence (Starting RDE)
Like Romo, his back has severely limited his potential the last two years. For his sake, I hope he's finally healthy & ready to show folks what he delievered two years ago when he finished with 8 sacks in 8 games. It is amazing how many players have a 'break out' season during contracts years, so I'll take the odds and say Lawrence will end the season with double digit sacks. (10 sacks)
3. Malik Collins (Starting 3-tech)
A young stud that proved early how disruptive he could be even after missing most of camp with a broke foot. One year later to get stronger and more familiar with Marinelli's scheme, I fully expect great things from him this year, think Warren Sapp..possibly even pro-bowl considerations. (6-8 sacks)
4. Benson Mayowa (RDE)
I'm encouraged by his late surge after a slow start last year, but for some reason I want to temper my expectations, although I still think he will be very valuable in our rotation as one of the few players we have with speed/bend combo. (6 sacks)
5. Cedric Thornton (cut)
Thornton didn't show me much last year, so unless he surprises.. I think Dallas will take the cap hit and choose to go with youth and upside. I'm starting to believe their was a reason the Sheagles let him walk.
6. David Irving (LDE & DT)
Young player that flashed a ton of potential. Most agree he's he could be a stud if more consistent. He's existentially in a contract year and no doubt he wants to get paid. I have high expectations, yet I'm trying to stay reasonable. (8 sacks)
7. Tyrone Crawford (Starting DT)
Hopefully Crawford can stay healthy as it seems he's ailing early every year. He's at his best at DT and has proven to be above average when healthy. At the very least he's a veteran presence that's not a liability. (5 sacks)
8. Charles Tapper (Starting LDE)
I know many will disagree with this and wonder how I can make such a bold prediction, but I believe he has all the tools you look for in a LDE. He has size, speed, and the quick twitch that will field dividends at this position. Besides, he will be rotated out often as will everyone else on this line. I'm a big Tapper fan. I just have a feeling he will surprise a lot of people this year. (6-8 sacks)
9. Damontre Moore (backup End)
I don't have high expectations, but I do have hope that Marenilli can tap into his potential via this scheme. Moore's best attributes shine when he's able to attack the ball. This may very well be Moore's last chance. He can get to the QB, so I see a situational pass rusher with upside if Moore stays committed. (4-5 sacks)
10.Stephen Paea (Backup DT)
Prototypical Marenilli guy. He knows the scheme and was productive prior to playing for Rod. Can he do it again, well that's the question. One thing is for sure, Marenilli trust him. He stays. (2 sacks)

Randy Gregory-
I was a fan of his potential.. and I guess I fell for his promises to our team. He broke his promise to Jerry and Cowboy nation. I'm done even talking about this guy. If he's not in uniform, then who cares.
Jordan Carrell-- practice squad potential

Joey Ivie (secures last spot on DL)
A Florida friend of mine was upset we landed this guy. He said Ivie is very under rated. He basically did the grunt work for Florida's DL while others benefited and was VERY disruptive. He's a fast, quick twitch, big guy that can be coached in the mold of Collins or at least McClain from last year. Aka- a Marenilli guy

Lenny Jones--Practice squad potential
Richard Ash--cut

 

[Vintage]

With as much time as we will be spending in the nickel next year (the entire division could be using 3 WR sets as their base package on offense), I suspect they will go long in the secondary as well.

Early guess:

DL: Lawrence, Mayowa, Tapper, Charlton, Crawford, Thornton, Paea, Irving, and Collins
LB: Smith, Lee, Wilson, Hitchins, Wilbur, Nzeocha,
DB: Scandrick, Carroll, Brown, Awuzie, Lewis, White, Heath, Jones, Woods, Frazier