We beat one team with a winning record

If Eagles started Foles, they probably would have beaten us, because Wentz was awful with his throws. Wentz, besides being hurt, ignores Alshon Jefferies who is way too talented to be ignored.

Plus, Jim Schwartz actually respected the Rans offense and Goff, unlike Dak, where he pretty much played man and one-deep safety against us all game and that too with a broken secondary. The Eagles got one of their corners back also last night.
 
khiladi said:
And “Mr, Clutch” Dak Prescott has only two games in his career where he has come back from ten points or more (meaning two scores) and they both came against in 2016, against teams that were giving up close to 500 yards a game in the playoffs.

Student like master, both relying on “polished” good-boy image to keep their careers alive..
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Definitely agree with bold. You know how many people on here have used the he's a nice person (even though they don't know him), or he has intangibles (which is usually code for he's not that good when that's the first or main thing said about you) to prop this guy up. When discussing the true great players/people in any area we might say these things but it sure as heck isn't the first/main things brought up when talking about those people. That's the same stuff some used for Tebow back in his hayday and that should tell you all you need to know right there.
 
Main reason the Saints have the best record other than a talented roster: 6-1 record on the road. Including those wins over the Ravens and Vikings in difficult places to play.
 
khiladi said:
If Eagles started Foles, they probably would have beaten us, because Wentz was awful with his throws. Wentz, besides being hurt, ignores Alshon Jefferies who is way too talented to be ignored.

Plus, Jim Schwartz actually respected the Rans offense and Goff, unlike Dak, where he pretty much played man and one-deep safety against us all game and that too with a broken secondary. The Eagles got one of their corners back also last night.
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Bold is true with dang near all DC. I was listening to a podcast last night and Ed Werder was talking to Eberflus(sp) after the game and said their main thing was to stop Zeke and if they did that and limited Cooper they'd be done. What DC has said we need to stop Dak and focus less on Zeke because we don't want Dak to burn us? People can say I'm hating but I guess all the defenses in their gameplans are hating too by never focusing on stopping Dak and the passing game first.
 
Philmonroe said:
Definitely agree with bold. You know how many people on here have used the he's a nice person (even though they don't know him), or he has intangibles (which is usually code for he's not that good when that's the first or main thing said about you) to prop this guy up. When discussing the true great players/people in any area we might say these things but it sure as heck isn't the first/main things brought up when talking about those people. That's the same stuff some used for Tebow back in his hayday and that should tell you all you need to know right there.
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These guys fall in love with this ‘image’. This isn’t just Tebow, but with Garrett it was the same, including this “next Tom Landry” nonsense, as if Landry wasn’t the most innovative coach of his era.

Garrett-defenders used to strike comparisons with Wade based on ‘personality’ alone. Wade was supposedly the “jolly-good doughboy” that just wanted to be friends with his players, while Garrett was supposedly this stoic, Landry-like figure that would hold the team accountable. The locker-room was allegedly a mess because of Wafe and this RKG nonsense used to always be used here. When being a good boy didn’t bring results, these homers tried to change the definition of RKG to “talented players with their heads on right”. Yeah, OK.. I’m sure no Coach other than Garrett would prefer guys that weren’t hot heads with loads of talent.

Now the remaining Garrett defenders are latching on to the fact that his players ‘like him’ and he’s ‘just one of the guys’ slapping players butts and clapping. Ironic considering how they used to treat Wade, whose going to the HOF and one of the greatest DC in NFL history.
 
khiladi said:
These guys fall in love with this ‘image’. This isn’t just Tebow, but with Garrett it was the same, including this “next Tom Landry” nonsense, as if Landry wasn’t the most innovative coach of his era.

Garrett-defenders used to strike comparisons with Wade based on ‘personality’ alone. Wade was supposedly the “jolly-good doughboy” that just wanted to be friends with his players, while Garrett was supposedly this stoic, Landry-like figure that would hold the team accountable. The locker-room was allegedly a mess because of Wafe and this RKG nonsense used to always be used here. When Garrett-homers
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Yeah I agree on the image but some for some strange reason want the players to be someone they can look up too like they aren't grown men. I just need these dudes to play good. If they are nice people off the field great but just like your car mechanic you don't care if dude is a role model or what he does off the clock as long as he fixes your car. That's how I look at athletes and celebrities in general. I don't try to make them some sort of role model and or morality centers because they get paid more than the avg or have a talent I don't.
 
Philmonroe said:
Bold is true with dang near all DC. I was listening to a podcast last night and Ed Werder was talking to Eberflus(sp) after the game and said their main thing was to stop Zeke and if they did that and limited Cooper they'd be done. What DC has said we need to stop Dak and focus less on Zeke because we don't want Dak to burn us? People can say I'm hating but I guess all the defenses in their gameplans are hating too by never focusing on stopping Dak and the passing game first.
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The Commanders played plenty of press coverage with only one safety with Zeke. That’s how Gallup got his TD. If people just pay attention to the looks Dak gets as compared to any other QB, it’s night and day.

The Colts actually played it differently, probably realizing Cooper can get behind defenses with his speed. Dak couldn’t do anything and if you notice that go-route was completely taken out the equation. They tried it once with Hurns when they had it, who had the step, and Dak’s throw was awful. Dak isn’t making any throw deep consistently unless it’s the first read on the play-call and it’s clearly apparent to go there.

The Saints went more zone in the second half against us, and Dak completely folded.
 
Zman5 said:
I get that but the stat is still very misleading.

The teams who beat us early in the season can now count us as team with a winning record. The fact is, we were much worse team when they played us than our current team. Some of the teams that beat us early in the season, will not beat us now.

It does not really give a true indication of how good or bad a team is currently.
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True but it does show something about consistency and their were plenty of teams we beat that could have gone either way. Most of the Saints wins were much more dominant overall but I get what you’re saying.

I just don’t trust this team at all compared to most other playoff contenders. There may be one or two I feel decent about beating but that’s it.
 
Philmonroe said:
Bold is true with dang near all DC. I was listening to a podcast last night and Ed Werder was talking to Eberflus(sp) after the game and said their main thing was to stop Zeke and if they did that and limited Cooper they'd be done. What DC has said we need to stop Dak and focus less on Zeke because we don't want Dak to burn us? People can say I'm hating but I guess all the defenses in their gameplans are hating too by never focusing on stopping Dak and the passing game first.
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And remember Eberflus coached the secondary here, so he knows what he was up against in this offense and saw Dak up close every day.
 
khiladi said:
The Commanders played plenty of press coverage with only one safety with Zeke. That’s how Gallup got his TD. If people just pay attention to the looks Dak gets as compared to any other QB, it’s night and day.

The Colts actually played it differently, probably realizing Cooper can get behind defenses with his speed. Dak couldn’t do anything and if you notice that go-route was completely taken out the equation. They tried it once with Hurns when they had it, who had the step, and Dak’s throw was awful. Dak isn’t making any throw deep consistently unless it’s the first read on the play-call and it’s clearly apparent to go there.

The Saints went more zone in the second half against us, and Dak completely folded.
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Eberflus said that he'd take away the deep stuff so you're correct on that. He said if they didn't get chunk plays main from Cooper they'd be in a good position to win. He said give Cooper the curls but not the double moves and stop Zeke first. So maybe you listened to the podcast but if you didn't you saw the gameplan Eberflus told Werder from just watching or having early access to all22.
 
So tired of the "Haven't beaten teams with a winning record" bit. This is a different team since Cooper arrived, and the Cowboys are 5-2 since he joined the squad. Yes, both losses were bad. Yes, both were to teams with a "winning record". Funny thing, if the Cowboys had beaten the seahawks, titans, and colts none of them would have a winning record and people would STILL be saying we've only beaten 1 team with a winning record. If we hadn't beaten the skins and eagles, both teams would have winning records. Maybe we should've let philly have last weeks game so we could add them to the "teams with a winning record" list. You play the teams on your schedule. Yes, the team needs to play better heading into the playoffs, but fans of the rams and patriots are probably saying the exact same thing right now.
 
We will lose the NFC east and Jerruh will keep Garrett. We are doomed.[/QUOTE]
Pokes12 said:
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We will lose the NFC east and Jerruh will keep Garrett. We are doomed.
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Because the rest of the league are world beaters against teams with winning records.

The division leaders average 3 wins against winning teams. The Rams have 5, Dallas has 1. NE has 4 and the rest of the league has 3..... This stat means nothing .
 
Pokes12 said:
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We will lose the NFC east and Jerruh will keep Garrett. We are doomed.
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If the season ended today, Dallas would be the only NFC playoff team who has already beaten the Saints.

Of course, that stat won't matter once the playoffs start, either. :rolleyes:
 
Pokes12 said:
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We will lose the NFC east and Jerruh will keep Garrett. We are doomed.
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We actually beat the 1st place Commanders and the 1st place Saints who both had winning records at the time we played them :laugh:
khiladi said:
And “Mr, Clutch” Dak Prescott has only two games in his career where he has come back from ten points or more (meaning two scores) and they both came against in 2016, against teams that were giving up close to 500 yards a game in the playoffs.

Student like master, both relying on “polished” good-boy image to keep their careers alive..
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We actually beat the Saints and Commanders who had winning records and were in 1st place when we played them
 
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