We got outcoached... plain and simple

rlee

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I think we got out coached. We never seem to be able to make adjustments during a game. We never seem to attack a teams weaknesses.
 

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rlee;1080419 said:
I think we got out coached. We never seem to be able to make adjustments during a game. We never seem to attack a teams weaknesses.

Yes and no. We were in the game the whole way. It was some offensive playcalling and execution at QB position IMO
 

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You know I was really MAD yesterday.... not frustrated... just mad.

Today I am coming to a realization that IF this team doesnt have some sort of enlightenment or something that we are just gonna be an average team....

Too many variables here are not sync'd up

I feel the only thing that will make this season a success is a "spark"

Where will this spark come from if it does in fact come?
 

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I typically get irritated as hell when people always blame "play calling" and "game planning" for losses - those people tend to never accept that player exectution has anything to do with it. On the other hand, those same people are quick to praise player execution when we play well and treat "play calling" and "game planning" as insignifacnt to success.

In this game, however, I agree that we didn't adjust well. I still believe the primary problem was player execution, but I certainly believe that we did a poor job of adjusting to the Eagles pressure and exploiting the holes that result from attacking all the time. The coaches have to bear a large part of the blame for that.
 

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Definately outcoached yesterday and in some previous games. Despite being outcoached yesterday we still could have won had our players executed.
 

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Stautner;1080471 said:
I typically get irritated as hell when people always blame "play calling" and "game planning" for losses - those people tend to never accept that player exectution has anything to do with it. On the other hand, those same people are quick to praise player execution when we play well and treat "play calling" and "game planning" as insignifacnt to success.

In this game, however, I agree that we didn't adjust well. I still believe the primary problem was player execution, but I certainly believe that we did a poor job of adjusting to the Eagles pressure and exploiting the holes that result from attacking all the time. The coaches have to bear a large part of the blame for that.

We didn't adjust at all during the second half. Player execution correlates alot to team preparation. We weren't prepared for the Eagles blitz, period. Now, there were several weaknesses exposed in the game that most people really knew about. Flozell got beat up, Roy Williams falls out his can on deep coverage...Watkins needs more work, Witten needs to work harder, and Bledsoe looked BAD. Coaches did nothing to alleviate blitzing...nothing. I can't say the line was beaten in the run game, because we ran at will.
 

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trueblue1687;1080495 said:
We didn't adjust at all during the second half. Player execution correlates alot to team preparation. We weren't prepared for the Eagles blitz, period. Now, there were several weaknesses exposed in the game that most people really knew about. Flozell got beat up, Roy Williams falls out his can on deep coverage...Watkins needs more work, Witten needs to work harder, and Bledsoe looked BAD. Coaches did nothing to alleviate blitzing...nothing. I can't say the line was beaten in the run game, because we ran at will.

Obviously preparation has something to do with execution, but that's not what I'm talking about. I agree completely that we didn't adjust well to the blitz, and I certainly believe that our failures in that area had at least as much to do with coaching failures as execution.

I also blame a lot on our QB not recognizing and reading defenses and finding the weaknesses to exploit. The coaching staff could have helped in that area as well.

I also agree that the line did well in the run game - although i think it's a little bit of an exxageration to say we ran at will. The running game was successful though - I was very encouraged by that.
 

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trueblue1687;1080495 said:
We didn't adjust at all during the second half. Player execution correlates alot to team preparation. We weren't prepared for the Eagles blitz, period. Now, there were several weaknesses exposed in the game that most people really knew about. Flozell got beat up, Roy Williams falls out his can on deep coverage...Watkins needs more work, Witten needs to work harder, and Bledsoe looked BAD. Coaches did nothing to alleviate blitzing...nothing. I can't say the line was beaten in the run game, because we ran at will.

I don't know that I agree with the point that the players weren't ready for the Blitz, of course they were. Again, it falls to the QB. He has to read the D, see the where the blitz is coming from, and make the adjustments at the line and get the ball out quick. Bledslow didn't do any of that. The coachs call plays based on the tendency of the opposing D in certain situations, if they call a play and the QB gets to the line and sees that it is not the look, they have to make that adjustment. If the QB gets to the line and reads all out blitz,, he has to call a hot route. Bledslow many times yesterday called off plays because he saw the blitz coming,but he just dropped back and expected 5 seconds to throw the ball,, that all falls on the QB.
 

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Yeagermeister;1080547 said:
We are always coached by Philly....by Jim Johnson to be exact.

Always? Hmmmm, I guess you didn't watch us crush Philly last year - you must have been out of town.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1080518 said:
I don't know that I agree with the point that the players weren't ready for the Blitz, of course they were. Again, it falls to the QB. He has to read the D, see the where the blitz is coming from, and make the adjustments at the line and get the ball out quick. Bledslow didn't do any of that. The coachs call plays based on the tendency of the opposing D in certain situations, if they call a play and the QB gets to the line and sees that it is not the look, they have to make that adjustment. If the QB gets to the line and reads all out blitz,, he has to call a hot route. Bledslow many times yesterday called off plays because he saw the blitz coming,but he just dropped back and expected 5 seconds to throw the ball,, that all falls on the QB.

They weren't ready. 7 sacks should be enough to say that. Bledsoe was hit a few times on his second step...not his fault (he don't make blocking calls...center does that). He certainly gave in to a few statue sacks. His play sucked, but the rest of the offense didn't do it's job either.
 

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rlee;1080419 said:
I think we got out coached. We never seem to be able to make adjustments during a game. We never seem to attack a teams weaknesses.

I think the problem is that we can only make adjustments at halftime. If things go wrong in say the 3rd quarter, we have no adjustments for the fourth quarter.

If people look back, the offense wasn't doing so bad against Philly's defense in the first half. We moved the relatively well and ran the ball really well. Scored 2 TD's from that and wound up going up 21-17. It wasn't until the 3rd quarter where he had no answer for blitzes up the middle. It's hard making an adjustment when your QB stinks up the joint, but I couldn't believe it took them so long to throw a screen at the blitz or go to the shotgun formation (which they only did when Philly rushed 3 pass rushers).

I think the staff was out-coached, but only to a marginal degree.


YAKUZA
 

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Im disapointed that there were no halftime adjustments to stop the blitz. Weather that means different line blocking or different playcalling (Shotgun formation, quick slants, pitchouts ect.)
 

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Cas2800;1080865 said:
Im disapointed that there were no halftime adjustments to stop the blitz. Weather that means different line blocking or different playcalling (Shotgun formation, quick slants, pitchouts ect.)

I agree, I think my peewee football coach could have made those adjustments.
 

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THe Coaches didn't muff a snap on a punt. They didn't fumble on our next possession.

The Coaches didn't take a bad angle on the flea flicker. The Coaches didn't miss the tackle on Baskets huge play.

Bottom line: It was a close game. Philly made ALOT more big plays, especially when they needed them. That's why they won. Plain and simple
 

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we were NOT outcoached.

if we had any semblance of a QB out there philly would be sportin' a home loss to it's most hated rival. donny would be lookin' like the chump he always is in big games.

even with all the ineptitude (big play D and QB turnovers) we were in a position to force overtime... 3 shots at the endzone but you all know the results.
 

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chinch;1081063 said:
we were NOT outcoached.

if we had any semblance of a QB out there philly would be sportin' a home loss to it's most hated rival. donny would be lookin' like the chump he always is in big games.

even with all the ineptitude (big play D and QB turnovers) we were in a position to force overtime... 3 shots at the endzone but you all know the results.

Not to nitpick but didn't our coach select the QB? If Parcells selected and has stuck with Bledsoe then he is still responsible for the lousy QB play.
 

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chinch;1081063 said:
we were NOT outcoached.

if we had any semblance of a QB out there philly would be sportin' a home loss to it's most hated rival. donny would be lookin' like the chump he always is in big games.

even with all the ineptitude (big play D and QB turnovers) we were in a position to force overtime... 3 shots at the endzone but you all know the results.


I dont understand where you guys get this **** from. McNabb is the best QB in the division, probably the NFC. This guy has no real WRs, and he comes up big all the time. He's an MVP candidate at this point.

You saw what happened to Philly WITHOUT him last year.

You can hate Philly, you don't have to like McNabb, but to deny him of his due is stupid.
 
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