We have a front row seat for a GM who actually does what it takes

[BHendri5]

Where are the rings? Are we seriously still doing this? Lol. Roseman has won a Super Bowl in 2017. Went to another 2 years ago. In position again to get to another this year. They keep moving forward while Dallas has been in mud for almost 30 years now.

Since the turn of the century, the Eagles as a whole has dwarfed Dallas in every single aspect.

Dallas fans love to downplay any other team to try and make themselves feel better. Sorry, it doesn't work. Dallas and Washington now are the only 2 teams in the conference who haven't been to an NFC championship game in the last 3 decades.

Yes we’re seriously doing this. You’re talking about a team that for whatever reason you’re enamored with, you look at that Super Bowl win, and talk about how they have dwarfed us, smh, 30yrs? Well 50yrs before the eagles got that one and it’s counting down to another 50 before they get another one. Stop just stop it, the eagles are not doing anything more than any other team through out the history of the NFL.

 

[DallasEast]

Not certain how someone, owning a 1996-2002 GM record, that would have gotten the overwhelming majority of executives fired, continues to have observers who think he has done a good enough job in the position. After decades.

Is there another manager, in any field, of any industry, who garners this perpetual passing grade? For basically 'trying hard' and repeatedly coming up short?

 

[Blackspider214]

Yes we’re seriously doing this. You’re talking about a team that for whatever reason you’re enamored with, you look at that Super Bowl win, and talk about how they have dwarfed us, smh, 30yrs? Well 50yrs before the eagles got that one and it’s counting down to another 50 before they get another one. Stop just stop it, the eagles are not doing anything more than any other team through out the history of the NFL.

You asked where the rings are. I gave you one in 2017. So again, what exactly are you arguing here?

Typical Dallas fan, needing to go way back into the archives to feel better about yourself. It's all Dallas fans have to hang on these days. Who cares about modern day rings and SB appearances, we got the 70s and 90s! Lol.

I don't care about the history of the NFL. The Eagles are absolutely running circles around the Dallas front office currently. You know, present time, the only time that currently matters, not decades ago.

 

[5Stars]

Hate them all you want but Philly and Roseman have run laps around Jerry for years now. Roseman doesn't get everything right (the Huff contract this offseason is looking like a turd, and he's had some bad drafts too) but he gets more than enough right and is quick to note an error and change course.

This offseason was a tale in competency for one franchise and idiocy for another franchise. Both teams bowed out early in the playoffs where each team got run off the field. The moment the offseason started, one team took an honest, realistic look at where they were and were aggressive in trying to fix it, the other team was passive and overvalued what they thought they had.

Both Roseman and Jerry are egomaniacs but one is far more critical of the job he has done than the other. One is quicker to understand the limitations of their roster than the other. One is quicker to admit mistakes than the other because he doesn't give a crap what people think about him, whereas the other is consumed with how people view him as a "football" guy.

We can debate whether Dak was a smart resigning. But if Roseman had made the decision to re-sign him, he would have aggressively gotten it done in March or April for cap relief. Devonta Smith and AJ Brown both signed extensions in April, to give them cap flexibility. We signed Lamb weeks before the season.

Philly actually had a fairly decent run game last year. Roseman decided it wasn't good enough and went out and signed one of the best FA RBs. Jerry? Our run game was suspect last year even with Pollard and Jerry's response? Go small at TB. One GM simply said what we have is not good enough, the other GM stupidly thought the opposite.

One GM doesn't allow the cap to constrain him. He works it like no other GM. The other GM uses the cap as an excuse. Always whining about how cap handcuffs him. One isn't afraid to stretch that cap out, the other either has no desire to in order to get better or is too stupid to figure it out.

This franchise is going nowhere with Jerry at the helm. It would take a smart GM like Roseman to try to fix what Jerry has created. And there is no way Jerry is going to give up that kind of control. His ego won't allow it. So his fanbase suffers while Jerry continues on in his nearly three decade long vanity project.

You can talk Roseman up all you want, but he does not sit in the stands with his teams play sheet like our HOF GM does. That's how much Jerra cares about his team. Man I despise that fool.

 

[Proof]

Absolutely. Philly's front office is one of the best out there. Look at how they address their needs and go get thu. Once they saw the Foles/Wentz era was done, they moved on and went and got Hurts in the draft. A ton of people scoffed at that pick and he did look pretty raw and bad at times early on but they designed an offense for him and got him the pieces they need. Draft Devante Smith for a weapon. Traded for AJ Brown for another big weapon. Moved up ahead of Dallas and got Goeddart for their TE, someone Dallas wanted. Dallas had no idea this would happen and had no backup plan. Ended up taking Connor Williams, who isn't even in the league any longer.

And this past offseason, to go and get Barkley, amazing move. Cue the usual crowd of "he's overrated and overpaid" for pretty much every free agent we don't land. Barkley completely transformed their offense. That is the one piece they never really had in this Hurts era. A back who can carry the load the entire game. Trying to tackle this guy all game wears you down. Hence, why they lead the league in 2nd half points. Hurts and the offense no longer turn the ball over.

Huge difference in being a proactive front office, spending whatever it takes and being a penny pinching, reactive, "we like our guys" front office.

Dallas was already on the phone with Connor Williams when the Goedert pick was announced. They were never taking Goedert, Philly did not pull one over on Dallas, there was no "backup plan" needed because they got their guy. Him retiring this year is not some indictment. Weird hit job.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Hate them all you want but Philly and Roseman have run laps around Jerry for years now. Roseman doesn't get everything right (the Huff contract this offseason is looking like a turd, and he's had some bad drafts too) but he gets more than enough right and is quick to note an error and change course.

This offseason was a tale in competency for one franchise and idiocy for another franchise. Both teams bowed out early in the playoffs where each team got run off the field. The moment the offseason started, one team took an honest, realistic look at where they were and were aggressive in trying to fix it, the other team was passive and overvalued what they thought they had.

Both Roseman and Jerry are egomaniacs but one is far more critical of the job he has done than the other. One is quicker to understand the limitations of their roster than the other. One is quicker to admit mistakes than the other because he doesn't give a crap what people think about him, whereas the other is consumed with how people view him as a "football" guy.

We can debate whether Dak was a smart resigning. But if Roseman had made the decision to re-sign him, he would have aggressively gotten it done in March or April for cap relief. Devonta Smith and AJ Brown both signed extensions in April, to give them cap flexibility. We signed Lamb weeks before the season.

Philly actually had a fairly decent run game last year. Roseman decided it wasn't good enough and went out and signed one of the best FA RBs. Jerry? Our run game was suspect last year even with Pollard and Jerry's response? Go small at TB. One GM simply said what we have is not good enough, the other GM stupidly thought the opposite.

One GM doesn't allow the cap to constrain him. He works it like no other GM. The other GM uses the cap as an excuse. Always whining about how cap handcuffs him. One isn't afraid to stretch that cap out, the other either has no desire to in order to get better or is too stupid to figure it out.

This franchise is going nowhere with Jerry at the helm. It would take a smart GM like Roseman to try to fix what Jerry has created. And there is no way Jerry is going to give up that kind of control. His ego won't allow it. So his fanbase suffers while Jerry continues on in his nearly three decade long vanity project.

I can't disagree, but JJ has set the lowest bar in the NFL for GMs

 

[CowboyFrog]

Nominated for layup thread of the year....you could do this with about 28 GM's in the league...the other 3 will be fired shortly..ours of course will be back next year ALL IN!!!!!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Eagles love is nauseating when they lose I hope y'all have this same energy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Nominated for layup thread of the year....you could do this with about 28 GM's in the league...the other 3 will be fired shortly..ours of course will be back next year ALL IN!!!!!

Yeah that’s what I told him in another thread. There are far better GMs than Jerry. Ravens GM and culture is much better then both.

 

[75boyz]

The OP title is the dream case scenario for this fan base. A proven, young no nonsense GM whose intent is to cut overpaid contracts while supplementing the offensive and defensive lines.

If there are any potential GM candidate guys out there like that then that's who I want.

What's that...
What about Jerry?
What about Stephen?

I did mention this was my "dream" case scenario.
LOL

 

[FVSTONE]

Hate them all you want but Philly and Roseman have run laps around Jerry for years now. Roseman doesn't get everything right (the Huff contract this offseason is looking like a turd, and he's had some bad drafts too) but he gets more than enough right and is quick to note an error and change course.

This offseason was a tale in competency for one franchise and idiocy for another franchise. Both teams bowed out early in the playoffs where each team got run off the field. The moment the offseason started, one team took an honest, realistic look at where they were and were aggressive in trying to fix it, the other team was passive and overvalued what they thought they had.

Both Roseman and Jerry are egomaniacs but one is far more critical of the job he has done than the other. One is quicker to understand the limitations of their roster than the other. One is quicker to admit mistakes than the other because he doesn't give a crap what people think about him, whereas the other is consumed with how people view him as a "football" guy.

We can debate whether Dak was a smart resigning. But if Roseman had made the decision to re-sign him, he would have aggressively gotten it done in March or April for cap relief. Devonta Smith and AJ Brown both signed extensions in April, to give them cap flexibility. We signed Lamb weeks before the season.

Philly actually had a fairly decent run game last year. Roseman decided it wasn't good enough and went out and signed one of the best FA RBs. Jerry? Our run game was suspect last year even with Pollard and Jerry's response? Go small at TB. One GM simply said what we have is not good enough, the other GM stupidly thought the opposite.

One GM doesn't allow the cap to constrain him. He works it like no other GM. The other GM uses the cap as an excuse. Always whining about how cap handcuffs him. One isn't afraid to stretch that cap out, the other either has no desire to in order to get better or is too stupid to figure it out.

This franchise is going nowhere with Jerry at the helm. It would take a smart GM like Roseman to try to fix what Jerry has created. And there is no way Jerry is going to give up that kind of control. His ego won't allow it. So his fanbase suffers while Jerry continues on in his nearly three decade long vanity project.

There are way too many holes to plug in this sinking ship. Not only are the Cowboys in desperate need of game changing starters, they're also in desperate need of quality backups, which doesn't appear that will happen anytime soon since our so-called GM is tanking miserably in recent NFL drafts. Our GM resigning a seriously regressing Prescott to an insane contract has turned into a CAP nightmare should also be a fire able offense............................

 

[StylisticS]

But what are they doing with this brilliant gm? Where are the rings?
Are we about to see another 6/7 game losing streak like last season?

The chances of them collapsing are extremely low. They are contending again. Likely will reach their 7th NFC title game this century to our 0.

 

[Sydla]

Hurts is easily enough to win a ring. I mean, we have seen the likes of Jimmy G, Kap, Purdy, Goff all play for Super Bowls. Philly when they played KC a few years ago, were right there to win it all. They now have Barkley, someone to lean on to take pressure off Hurts. This is what Dallas did for Romo with Murray and Dak with Zeke. Lean on that guys who control the game and wear you down.

The NFC, unlike the AFC, you don't need to be some top flight QB to win. They have Mahomes, Allen, Burrow. The NFC is much more parity. And has been that way for a few decades now while the AFC was extremely top heavy with Brady, Manning, Mahomes. Throw in Ben R. If you weren't those guys, then good luck getting to the Super Bowl. You had a few outliers here and there make it, like Flacco. The NFC has seen a ton of different guys get there. Which it what makes Dallas ineptitude to not even get to a measly NFC championship game all the more frustrating. We didn't have these top tier QBs to get through.

Hurts seems have to figured out how to just manage the game with all the talent around him. He got into trouble thinking he was better than he was and making dumb throws or holding the ball too long. Now if he starts trying to do too much, they are gonna have problems.

 

[Sydla]

Yes we’re seriously doing this. You’re talking about a team that for whatever reason you’re enamored with, you look at that Super Bowl win, and talk about how they have dwarfed us, smh, 30yrs? Well 50yrs before the eagles got that one and it’s counting down to another 50 before they get another one. Stop just stop it, the eagles are not doing anything more than any other team through out the history of the NFL.

You continue to miss the point. It's not about being enamored with Philly. It's about pointing out the obvious differences now in how they are run and how they have a competent front office right now and we don't. Are you that much of a homer and sooooo insecure as a Cowboys fan that you can't admit was is patently obvious to 99% of NFL fans, reporters, analysts?

And the 30 year window is appropriate because after our SBs, Jerry changed the dynamic of the front office, ridding himself of a guy like Johnson and then running the whole thing himself. And from the moment the roster became "his" after the Johnson teams were dismantled, Jerry has been an abject failure. Philly has run circles around us since Jerry built "his" team.

The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be. Because right now you just sound like a hopeless homer.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

One can be held accountable and fired. The other cannot be. Dallas doesn’t have a GM, Philly does.

Yep, one’s job is on the line every year, the other has a lifetime contract. With raises and benefits even. So guess who does everything he can to make the team better every chance he gets?

 

[Bagman]

LOL. Always a homer in the bunch who struggle to just admit reality.

What are they doing? Been to two SBs, won one in the last 8 years. More playoff wins than us. Likely looking at another playoff run this year while we will be sitting home.

Yeah they lost a bunch of games last year late and their GM decided massive changes were needed so they went out and got two new coordinators, were aggressive in FA, had a great draft. What did we do after getting run off the field in January? We let talent walk out the door, didn't fire one coach, sat out FA and had a fairly mundane draft.

Hence the post. One franchise tries. One franchise does not. It's kind of comical that some of you struggle to just admit reality here between us and Philly.

Great post. Sadly, this is reality. The people who run our team suck. Other teams have great GMs and it shows year after year.

 

[chicago JK]

Yeah, they do well in trades as well. Sam Bradford, Wentz, AJ Brown, and several other veterans. They typically wind up on the right side of the trade. Compared to Dallas who hardly ever win a trade. It adds up too.

As you mention, look at both rosters in just a year. Dallas roster has holes all over. Philly did a good job replacing most of their holes.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Our GM....................... .......Homers rise up and meet your maker!!!!

 

[America's Cowboy]

Hate them all you want but Philly and Roseman have run laps around Jerry for years now. Roseman doesn't get everything right (the Huff contract this offseason is looking like a turd, and he's had some bad drafts too) but he gets more than enough right and is quick to note an error and change course.

This offseason was a tale in competency for one franchise and idiocy for another franchise. Both teams bowed out early in the playoffs where each team got run off the field. The moment the offseason started, one team took an honest, realistic look at where they were and were aggressive in trying to fix it, the other team was passive and overvalued what they thought they had.

Both Roseman and Jerry are egomaniacs but one is far more critical of the job he has done than the other. One is quicker to understand the limitations of their roster than the other. One is quicker to admit mistakes than the other because he doesn't give a crap what people think about him, whereas the other is consumed with how people view him as a "football" guy.

We can debate whether Dak was a smart resigning. But if Roseman had made the decision to re-sign him, he would have aggressively gotten it done in March or April for cap relief. Devonta Smith and AJ Brown both signed extensions in April, to give them cap flexibility. We signed Lamb weeks before the season.

Philly actually had a fairly decent run game last year. Roseman decided it wasn't good enough and went out and signed one of the best FA RBs. Jerry? Our run game was suspect last year even with Pollard and Jerry's response? Go small at TB. One GM simply said what we have is not good enough, the other GM stupidly thought the opposite.

One GM doesn't allow the cap to constrain him. He works it like no other GM. The other GM uses the cap as an excuse. Always whining about how cap handcuffs him. One isn't afraid to stretch that cap out, the other either has no desire to in order to get better or is too stupid to figure it out.

This franchise is going nowhere with Jerry at the helm. It would take a smart GM like Roseman to try to fix what Jerry has created. And there is no way Jerry is going to give up that kind of control. His ego won't allow it. So his fanbase suffers while Jerry continues on in his nearly three decade long vanity project.

You're 100% correct. Only problem is Jerry is this team's owner, and he is not going to give up his GM position for anyone.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Yes we’re seriously doing this. You’re talking about a team that for whatever reason you’re enamored with, you look at that Super Bowl win, and talk about how they have dwarfed us, smh, 30yrs? Well 50yrs before the eagles got that one and it’s counting down to another 50 before they get another one. Stop just stop it, the eagles are not doing anything more than any other team through out the history of the NFL.

The only NFL fans that constantly refer to their team’s past success are the one’s whose favorite team stinks now.