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2) Zeke had his chances in the passing game Sunday and whiffed badly.
6) why start the learning process over for these 2? Collins has shown he can be a good RT at the end of last year. Williams’ strength problems would show up at RT also. LEs like Lawrence would eat him alive.
- If you fire Garrett and Linehan, you want Kellen Moore as the top QB advisor?
8) why would you give premium draft capital for a position that doesn’t fix the offensive problems
9) what is Dez going to help? Dak wont throw 50-50 balls.

The only solution there is during the season is tell Dak throw it deep at least once per quarter no matter if Tavon is wide open or not.

I’d be growing up Mike White and first time game got out of hand he’d be in to get used to speed of game. He’s only QB on roster with NFL arm. If there’s a few blowouts and he can get some 4th quarter experience great and then start him the last few weeks of the season if the team is eliminated.

Offensively they need to live in shotgun/pistol and spread defenses out. Add tempo and make the game more instinctual than having to execute elaborate plays.

In 3rd and long I’d go more dime to get Lewis on the field. Allow Heath play under the sticks and Lewis and Woods can roam deep. Frazier/Heath are not good roamers.

2 turnovers by his receivers didn't help his confidence either especially on late game drives. He needs a little help.
 

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At this point, and I'm thinking about the long term benefits. The best solution is to go 4-12 which should put us high in the draft. The other bad teams this year already have their QB of the future on the roster. That gives us a great shot at landing Justin Herbert without having to trade up wasting future draft picks.
 

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best solution is new hc and oc. until that happens, everything else is mere conjecture.

Yes, I have that as #7. No improvement and it's an off season possibility. Don't see it happening in season although Wade proved it can happen, so there is precedence. Still. JG is JJ and SJ's boi and SL is JG's boi
 

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We shouldn't be afraid to throw Rush or White out there. We took a shot with a 4'th round rookie back in 2016. Why be afraid? Because it may prove what bad picks they were? On the flip side it could work. Maybe Kellen is a QB whisperer lol. It' s only three games but if we're floundering at the half way point I'm all for getting a look see at either or both. That sets us up for the draft in 2019


The chances of any of these QB's being great is very slim but maybe white or rush can be a little bit better in passing. We are better offensively than what we have seen. And that falls on the QB.
 

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I disagree. You absolutely send a message to Dak, the rest of them. Dak is not playing as well as he could. Rush couldn't be worse, hell he might be better. Dak should be treated like he is injured, his injury is mental. Too scared to make the throw. It's either that or he can't read a defense, either way we have a backup, time to use him.
Put Rush in there and we will get a high draft pick next year. Gotta keep Dak in no matter what. Forget the message, it's about winning and he gives us the best chance to win....better than Rush imho.
 

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I'm thinking the Raiders were thinking that too when they hired Chuckie. 0-3 would suggest otherwise. Still we shouldn't base our decision on the Raiders futility lol. No question Richard will be interviewed as a HC IMO. For the Rooney rule reason if nothing else.

I know it might seem fast to consider Richard as Head Coach considering the fact that he just arrived in Dallas and his body of work is limited. So far however, I like what he has brought to the table.
 

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At this point, and I'm thinking about the long term benefits. The best solution is to go 4-12 which should put us high in the draft. The other bad teams this year already have their QB of the future on the roster. That gives us a great shot at landing Justin Herbert without having to trade up wasting future draft picks.

If we don't play any better than we have then 4-12 is a real possibility. Then **** should happen. I could see us drafting another 4'th round QB and a TE in Round 1 lol. Then we'd flip a nut
 

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I disagree. You absolutely send a message to Dak, the rest of them. Dak is not playing as well as he could. Rush couldn't be worse, hell he might be better. Dak should be treated like he is injured, his injury is mental. Too scared to make the throw. It's either that or he can't read a defense, either way we have a backup, time to use him.
I'm not saying don't bench Dak. Maybe it's a message for the rest of the team, but it's not a message for Dak. The message is "you're not good enough". It shouldn't be "get better". I don't think there is a lack of effort in which that message is going to suddenly cause him to actually get better. That type of message is a wake up call. He's not asleep. He's just not good.
 

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Put Rush in there and we will get a high draft pick next year. Gotta keep Dak in no matter what. Forget the message, it's about winning and he gives us the best chance to win....better than Rush imho.

What is it you think we are getting now?
 

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If we don't play any better than we have then 4-12 is a real possibility. Then **** should happen. I could see us drafting another 4'th round QB and a TE in Round 1 lol. Then we'd flip a nut

Herbert is 6'6 235 with a big arm smart kid. Very unlikely he's a bust. Who ever lands him will be set for 10-15 yrs. That could be us.
 

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Yup. But it certainly sends a message to Dak. Get your ***t together or we move on. The line is fine if a QB would get rid of the ball. Even rush could score 1td a game which is what Dak is doing.
I do think it's a combination. The O line has been hot garbage in pass protection. Prescott has been under too much pressure.
And I highly doubt Rush would do anything productive. As much as some fans bash Prescott for his arm, Rush would get slaughtered.
 

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I'm not saying don't bench Dak. Maybe it's a message for the rest of the team, but it's not a message for Dak. The message is "you're not good enough". It shouldn't be "get better". I don't think there is a lack of effort in which that message is going to suddenly cause him to actually get better. That type of message is a wake up call. He's not asleep. He's just not good.
run him. get what we can out of him. and then move on to another. clearly, dak just doesn't have what it takes. the pressure gets to him and he falls apart.
 

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There is no message to be sent. It's not like Dak isn't giving maximum effort. He doesn't have the talent. A message is sent when you need a player to mentally engage.

The team's failure, once again, was to not adequately address the back up QB situation to where we are inserting a QB in hopes of realistically winning. QBs were out there for reasonable prices and yet the FO still wanted to roll with Cooper Rush and Mike White. Now we have another Weeden, Cassel, Moore carousel.

But the decision needs to be made that they are finally going to invest some draft capital in the QB position. Something they haven't done since Troy Aikman and Steve Walsh 3 decades ago.

We don't know what we have behind Dak. No reason not to start finding out though. I was patient & hopeful but it's been 10 games & a full offseason since the debacle in ATL, if Dak was going to pull out of the tailspin he would have by now. Take a shot to salvage the season or to confirm that we have to get serious about a QB in the offseason.
 

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Herbert is 6'6 235 with a big arm smart kid. Very unlikely he's a bust. Who ever lands him will be set for 10-15 yrs. That could be us.

I know but we don't value QB's or nose tackles that much. When was the last QB we drafted high, Quincy Carter? Drew Henson? In 1989 we drafted a QB #1. I'm being a bit sarcastic. What was the line? Anyone can run behind this O-line? Apparently it applies to QB's too. 4'th rounder in Prescott, UDFA in Rush, 5'th in White. Then when the O-line falters, damn brutha Prescott looks like a 4'th rounder, surprise surprise lol
 

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There is no message to be sent. It's not like Dak isn't giving maximum effort. He doesn't have the talent. A message is sent when you need a player to mentally engage.

The team's failure, once again, was to not adequately address the back up QB situation to where we are inserting a QB in hopes of realistically winning. QBs were out there for reasonable prices and yet the FO still wanted to roll with Cooper Rush and Mike White. Now we have another Weeden, Cassel, Moore carousel.

But the decision needs to be made that they are finally going to invest some draft capital in the QB position. Something they haven't done since Troy Aikman and Steve Walsh 3 decades ago.
Yep ..

While we have some issues on OL and need some upgrades at WR and TE our offense is basically a more talented and prolific passing QB away from being a more serious contender.

At least expend a 2nd round pick at QB like we did in 2002 but I’d suggest as you have here using a 1st round and whatever resources available to go after our next great QB. And Dak can be the solid backup he was intended and drafted to be.
 

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every year we’ve had success it came off the running game coming first and the passing game as the 2nd option

2007, 2009, 2014, and 2016 were all years where our running game dominated (in 2007 we passed at will be people were scared of marion barber)

Running the ball requires commitment. You have to keep running it (out of different formations) even when you end up 36 carries for 88 yards
 

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More spread formations, that will move defense out of the box and give easier reads
More 2 back sets using Zeke and Tavon together, options, fakes, screens, play action, this can also suck in LBs and open quick slants and seam routes behind them
More motion in the offense, it tips the defense making reads easier and forcing movement.
More misdirections and counters
Dial up 3-4 deep shots every game, as long as you have 1on1, let it fly
More 3 step drops, Dak has shown a repoire with Beasley and Thompson and both run short quick routes well and Dak has thrown those well
Run the ball, Zeke should never have less than 18 carries a game
Read Option, run Dak more often, if he isn't the answer what are we saving him for
Stop using Hurns and TWill, they have shown nothing
Get Rico some more snaps
Try no-huddle offense, keeps defense from substitutions and make reads easier too

LOL and you think clapper and vanilla queen will change a damn thing at this or any point? Not happening my friend, there isn't enough smarts between the 2 of em to shove a bb up a bull's arse.
 

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If we're sitting at 4-4 or less at the half way point and still averaging 15-16 points a game I'm all for finding out what we have in White or Rush or both. I'm not sure JG would be because it's his job on the line but if it's my job on the line I'm grabbing at straws to save my job and taking a look at least
 

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every year we’ve had success it came off the running game coming first and the passing game as the 2nd option

2007, 2009, 2014, and 2016 were all years where our running game dominated (in 2007 we passed at will be people were scared of marion barber)

Running the ball requires commitment. You have to keep running it (out of different formations) even when you end up 36 carries for 88 yards
True ... but the passing game must be a threat.

And it’s difficult sticking with the running game when you’re 2 or 3 scores behind. Ultimately you must score.
 
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