We have to pass the ball early, and on first, on Sunday

[endersdragon]

We are a 9-4 team our run first philosophy! 50 plus runs have made our team better, not passing. If you haven't realized yet, this is four quarter game. 3 points in the first is just fine with me the way the season has unfolded! Murray's legs are more.important than Romo's arm!

The Eagles will score between 14 and 21 points in the first quarter on Sunday. I don't like the idea of falling behind 21-3 on the road do you? We are 9-4 because we have gotten a lot of first half shutouts to support our 3 first quarter points, I just don't see that happening Sunday. Why do you hate the idea of using the pass to set up the run?

 

[JD_KaPow]

A lot of runs there of 3 yards or less in the first half, 3 straight plays of 3 yards = punt. Outside of that 8 and 5 we didn't have 3 straight run plays that added up to 10 yards anywhere. The second half sort of proves my point, because then they were taking guys out of the box and we were running it for big yards, but by then it was too late.

These are not consecutive run plays. These are 1st-down run plays. Getting positive yardage on every first down in a half, even when it's 2 or 3 yards, is unusual and opens up lots of options for 2nd and 3rd down.

 

[endersdragon]

These are not consecutive run plays. These are 1st-down run plays. Getting positive yardage on every first down in a half, even when it's 2 or 3 yards, is unusual and opens up lots of options for 2nd and 3rd down.

But we pass it like 95% of the time on second and 8. I don't like Romo passing it when everyone knows we are passing it.

 

[Screw The Hall]

In 8 of our games this year we have scored 3 or fewer points in the first quarter. Yes the run game pays dividends later on, but it hasn't worked at all early in more than half of our games. This in turn really puts pressure on your defense early. I don't like the idea of putting pressure on THIS defense early against the Eagles.

Points scored in the 1st quarter is not a terrific indicator of how effective the running game is or isn't early on. The ground game has more of a global effect than that. For example the opposing team has scored 3 or less in the 1st quarter in 7 games so far this season as well. So running the football has helped the defense early on. But more importantly than that it establishes how the game is going to be played. Once you start dominating the line of scrimmage the game starts to be dictated by you. It's important to establish that early. That's how this game is going to be won or lost in my opinion and with this offensive line I'm comfortable with that.

It should be noted that I'm not completely against mixing it up a bit more but not at the expense of staying committed to what this team does best.

 

[JD_KaPow]

But we pass it like 95% of the time on second and 8. I don't like Romo passing it when everyone knows we are passing it.

We've had 24 2nd-and-8 situations this season and we've run 10 times in those situations (42%). In the first half, the numbers are 6 rushes in 17 plays, or 35%.

We're more likely to pass on 2nd and 10, which is what you get if you have an incompletion on 1st-and-10.

 

[endersdragon]

Points scored in the 1st quarter is not a terrific indicator of how effective the running game is or isn't early on. The ground game has more of a global effect than that. For example the opposing team has scored 3 or less in the 1st quarter in 7 games so far this season as well. So running the football has helped the defense early on. But more importantly than that it establishes how the game is going to be played. Once you start dominating the line of scrimmage the game starts to be dictated by you. It's important to establish that early. That's how this game is going to be won or lost in my opinion and with this offensive line I'm comfortable with that.

It should be noted that I'm not completely against mixing i up a bit more but not at the expense of staying committed to what this team does best.

Yes... but I don't see the Eagles doing that, do you?

 

[50cent]

The Eagles will score between 14 and 21 points in the first quarter on Sunday. I don't like the idea of falling behind 21-3 on the road do you? We are 9-4 because we have gotten a lot of first half shutouts to support our 3 first quarter points, I just don't see that happening Sunday. Why do you hate the idea of using the pass to set up the run?

You know this how? We've fallen behind by worse scores, so no it doesn't bother me as long as we stuck to the run. Changing philosophy midstream is just not wise. Stay with what has worked. Asking more from Romo is not a winning recipe!

 

[endersdragon]

We've had 24 2nd-and-8 situations this season and we've run 10 times in those situations (42%). In the first half, the numbers are 6 rushes in 17 plays, or 35%.

We're more likely to pass on 2nd and 10, which is what you get if you have an incompletion on 1st-and-10.

How often do we have incompletions on play action plays on 1st and 10?

 

[endersdragon]

You know this how? We've fallen behind by worse scores, so no it doesn't bother me as long as we stuck to the run. Changing philosophy midstream is just not wise. Stay with what has worked. Asking more from Romo is not a winning recipe!

Once again, why not use the pass to set up the run so we start averaging roughly 8 YPC on first down instead of roughly 3 (according to the stats provided here)

 

[JD_KaPow]

How often do we have incompletions on play action plays on 1st and 10?

I'm not going to do your research for you just to find some tiny slice of data that supports your hypothesis.

 

[endersdragon]

I'm not going to do your research for you just to find some tiny slice of data that supports your hypothesis.

Well I am watching game rewind of the Bears game and even they realized how deadly Romo is on play action plays in the first quarter.

 

[50cent]

But we pass it like 95% of the time on second and 8. I don't like Romo passing it when everyone knows we are passing it.

Wrong again! We've had 24 2nd and 8 situations this year. 10 runs, 14 passes. Please get versed with nflgsis.com

 

[endersdragon]

Wrong again! We've had 24 2nd and 8 situations this year. 10 runs, 14 passes. Please get versed with nflgsis.com

Lol some people can't get exaggerations. Oh well. I do remember Romo started 9 of 12 for over 120 yards on Thanksgiving. Yet we fail behind 30 to 7 at that point. How did that happen? I also remember last week the big game changing drive was the drive before half, where we pass the ball 13 times, run it twice.

 

[50cent]

Once again, why not use the pass to set up the run so we start averaging roughly 8 YPC on first down instead of roughly 3 (according to the stats provided here)

Because clock running via run is way more important to our defense than clock stopping with potential incompletion via pass. Our program is working avg distance on a particular down means nothing. Clock management means everything until we field a competitive defensive unit.

 

[Screw The Hall]

Yes... but I don't see the Eagles doing that, do you?

I'd say the odds are against it. But then I'm not interested in winning the battle of the scoreboard in the 1st quarter either. I'm not opposed to it mind you, lol.

Just so you know I do think we'll need to be more effective passing the football this game. How we get to that place is how you and I differ I think. I believe this team's chances are greatly increased once you have those brawlers we have in the trenches dictating the game. They are run blockers first and foremost. I honestly worry a little bit about having these guys set up in pass protection against Philly's passrushers before our guys have had a chance to get into their bodies. Once we have it established that we are going to run the football I think everything else gets easier for this team both offensively and defensively. But we'll see.

I do expect this team to be much more competitive this game and that starts in the trenches. Last game was worst case scenario in so many ways with this team and I just don't see that happening again this game.

 

[50cent]

Lol some people can't get exaggerations. Oh well. I do remember Romo started 9 of 12 for over 120 yards on Thanksgiving. Yet we fail behind 30 to 7 at that point. How did that happen? I also remember last week the big game changing drive was the drive before half, where we pass the ball 13 times, run it twice.

Anecdotal pimpin! You take maybe 3 drives over 13 games and see a successful plan?! We are better using the run to set up.the pass. 9-4 outweighs those 3 drives you like.

 

[endersdragon]

Anecdotal pimpin! You take maybe 3 drives over 13 games and see a successful plan?! We are better using the run to set up.the pass. 9-4 outweighs those 3 drives you like.

I see Romo doing well early against the Eagles, yet us falling behind 30-7 because we used your strategy of run, run, and then run some more. Maybe, just maybe, we need to switch our Eagles strategy so that doesn't happen again.

 

[50cent]

I see Romo doing well early against the Eagles, yet us falling behind 30-7 because we used your strategy of run, run, and then run some more. Maybe, just maybe, we need to switch our Eagles strategy so that doesn't happen again.

I see dead people, so there's that!

 

[endersdragon]

I see dead people, so there's that!

Just admit, that your strategy is part of the reason we lost 2 weeks ago. It is plain to everyone, why not just admit it.

 

[TrailBlazer]

This game will be on romo's shoulders imo. Philly defense is tough against the run. Secondary, however, is not that good. Attack them through the air. Go after those corners.