We need a QB like Rothlisberger

[CaptainAmerica]

I'd take a 2nd year QB who has led his team to the Conference Championship game and a SB win in his first 2 years.

Say what you want but Rothlisberger is a stud who is going to do nothing but get better and better.

He didn't play well last night and normally a team wouldn't win that game with that kind of QB play, but he's played better (in his first 2 years) than any young QB in the league since Dan Marino and Brady.

 

[Eddie]

I had an early flight this morning. Listened to a few fellow New Yorkers discuss the Super Bowl.

Seems like alot of Giant fans are still PO'd at the Eli Manning trade. They kept saying how they COULD have had Ben Rothlesberger AND kept the 1st and 2nd rounders they gave to San Diego. Remember, the other first rounder was used on Shawn Merriman.

So you think the Giants are having misgivings to giving up so much for one player when a Super Bowl QB was sitting there waiting for them to take him???

Very interesting.

 

[burmafrd]

Unless Eli gets more accurate he will never be all that.

 

[wileedog]

I'd take a 2nd year QB who has led his team to the Conference Championship game and a SB win in his first 2 years.

Say what you want but Rothlisberger is a stud who is going to do nothing but get better and better.

I don't think anyone is arguing they wouldn't rather have Rothlisberger over Bledsoe right now. Only that Bledsoe could have won that game yesterday, and, at least IMO, if he was on Pittsburgh this year would probably be hoisting a Lombardi.

He didn't play well last night and normally a team wouldn't win that game with that kind of QB play, but he's played better (in his first 2 years) than any young QB in the league since Dan Marino and Brady.

I don't like the comparison only because Ben is asked to do so much less than Marino and Brady were asked to do. Brady didn't even have a decent RB on the team until Dillon last year and this year he was hurt and ineffective.

Again, not saying I wouldn't take Ben in heartbeat. But Brady and young Marino are a clear step up from him right now. Not that that is even remotely a bad thing.

 

[DLCassidy]

You have to be kidding me. On any given day Bledsoe is good enough to beat anybody.

Last I checked, and I could be oh so wrong, but you have to play 16 regular season games, 2 or 3 playoff games and then the Superbowl.

It is over a period of time in which Bledsoe's short comings are exposed.

I see you failed to mention Ben R's QB rating against Cinncy was 148.7, Indy 95.3, and Denver 124.9.

Not to mention he had a regular season passer rating of 98.6

It is not about one game.

I'm just having a bit of fun here. There was a 9 page thread about how our QB isn't good enough to win the big one. But I think the lesson of yesterday to me is the QB can play bad and get a lot of help and still win or he can play pretty good and get very little help and still lose (Hasselbeck).

Both QB's in yesterday's game are good players. But they got to the big game because both play behind outstanding offensive lines. Drew Bledsoe put up outstanding #'s in the first half of last year despite only average play at OL and a below average running game. The 2nd half the OL was just terrible. How well would he have done yesterday if he played for Pitt? Seattle? It's all specualtion of course but personally I think he could have won that game if he was on EITHER team.

There's no doubt in my mind that we are a few key offseason additions from having a good chance to compete for a championship.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Stats can be misleading which is why I don't like to evaluate a QB based solely on stats. Big Ben had a poor game overall. However, he made plays when he had to. And that has been Ben's game. Last year was the same for him. His stats were not impressive but at key moments last season, he improvised and made something out of nothing. I have seen him do that his entire career. A play looks bust and he will move around and some create this play out of nothing. The guy isn't a pretty QB but he knows how to win. And his TD run was impressive. The guy looks as big as a lineman and he can move like that. I know Bledsoe is incapable of runs such as those nor does he have the ability to improvise. If a play goes bust, Bledsoe is as good as a sack or a fumble. Some of you are underestimating Ben's mobility which Bledsoe is completely devoid of.

 

[gbrittain]

I'm just having a bit of fun here. There was a 9 page thread about how our QB isn't good enough to win the big one. But I think the lesson of yesterday to me is the QB can play bad and get a lot of help and still win or he can play pretty good and get very little help and still lose (Hasselbeck).

Both QB's in yesterday's game are good players. But they got to the big game because both play behind outstanding offensive lines. Drew Bledsoe put up outstanding #'s in the first half of last year despite only average play at OL and a below average running game. The 2nd half the OL was just terrible. How well would he have done yesterday if he played for Pitt? Seattle? It's all specualtion of course but personally I think he could have won that game if he was on EITHER team.

There's no doubt in my mind that we are a few key offseason additions from having a good chance to compete for a championship.

I dont entirely disagree with what you say. Again, and I am sure you already read what I posted in this thread, but to me Bledsoe is more than adequate for any one game that you can throw at him. My problem with him is what will be exposed over period of an entire season, playoffs and then hopefully Superbowl.

I do not dislike Bledsoe at all. He is clearly a talented QB. I think we will need one of the best if not best OLs in football in order to excel.

 

[Doomsday101]

I dont entirely disagree with what you say. Again, and I am sure you already read what I posted in this thread, but to me Bledsoe is more than adequate for any one game that you can throw at him. My problem with him is what will be exposed over period of an entire season, playoffs and then hopefully Superbowl.

I do not dislike Bledsoe at all. He is clearly a talented QB. I think we will need one of the best if not best OLs in football in order to excel.

Having a line that would allow us to have a running game would be a great start.

 

[DLCassidy]

I dont entirely disagree with what you say. Again, and I am sure you already read what I posted in this thread, but to me Bledsoe is more than adequate for any one game that you can throw at him. My problem with him is what will be exposed over period of an entire season, playoffs and then hopefully Superbowl.

I do not dislike Bledsoe at all. He is clearly a talented QB. I think we will need one of the best if not best OLs in football in order to excel.

I happen to agree, but I'd feel that way no matter who was under center for the Cowboys. You see it year in and year out in the playoffs and SB- tough to get far without very good to great OL play. If we had that IMO it should be open season on Bledsoe. But we don't.

 

[Cowchips]

Bledsoe never had a Playoff run like Roethlisberger or Delhomme. Even when he had protection.

Yes..1996 never really happened

 

[gbrittain]

Having a line that would allow us to have a running game would be a great start.

I do agree 100%. That was one of my biggest complaints throughout the year was the running game.

Averaging 3.6 yards per carry will not get you very far in my opinion. Every time Dallas would run it was almost like a wasted down.

 

[Doomsday101]

I do agree 100%. That was one of my biggest complaints throughout the year was the running game.

Averaging 3.6 yards per carry will not get you very far in my opinion. Every time Dallas would run it was almost like a wasted down.

It takes a lot of pressure off the QB when can have a consistant running game and it allows you to open up the playbook because defense are forced to respect your run.

 

[dfense]

Defense wins, with the help of the refs....

 

[cml750]

I do agree, had Bledsoe been the QB of the Steelers last night, Steelers win no problem.

Your kidding right!! Bledsoe would have been killed standing there like a statue. Ben was under pressure all night. The plays he made were produced by scrambling! Bledsoe would have been patting the balll until he was sacked about 10 to 15 times!

 

[gbrittain]

Your kidding right!! Bledsoe would have been killed standing there like a statue. Ben was under pressure all night. The plays he made were produced by scrambling! Bledsoe would have been patting the balll until he was sacked about 10 to 15 times!

Actually, I did say previously that Ben R moved around quite a bit. I do not disagree with what you say either.

I do truly believe that Bledsoe could (emphasis on COULD) have won that game, but there is that distinct possibility that he would been harrassed to the point he could have cost Pitt the game as well.

 

[Rockytop6]

Tell me where we can get one like Ben and I will start lobbying for him.

 

[InmanRoshi]

How anyone could sing Roethlesberger's praises after that performance is amazing. That was one of the worst QB'ed games I've ever witnessed in a Superbowl. The most accurate pass of the evening was thrown by a WR.

 

[Doomsday101]

How anyone could sing Roethlesberger's praises after that performance is amazing. That was one of the worst QB'ed games I've ever witnessed in a Superbowl.

It was a bad game but I don't think he is a bad QB. He is a young QB who has been a big asset to the steelers and I think he will get a lot better as time goes. In the meantime at least Cowher and his people know not to place the offense all on Roethlisberger. These experiances that Roethilsberger is getting will benifet him as his career moves on.

 

[InmanRoshi]

There are about 15 QB's in the NFL who could have performed better in that game.

 

[Doomsday101]

There are about 15 QB's in the NFL who could have performed better in that game.

Maybe so. Again He did a great job helping Pitt get to the SB and the coach and staff knew enough not to put the entire offense all on him. I agree his play in that game was bad but not many 2nd year QB's can claim they played in the SB that early in their careers.