We need a RB we can depend on for years

[tyke1doe]

To me Peterson and Bush were the only cant miss prospects. I'm talking RBs that everyone wanted. All those other rbs were decent but they were not on the same level as those 2 when they were drafted.

No one here was like draft Donald Brown, CJ Spiller, Cadillac. But a lot of people here wanted Peterson and Bush. I do remember back in 2004 a lot of people here at CZ wanted Stephen Jackson and I think we traded out the first, moved down and drafted Julius Jones, lol.

Bush was dynamic, but the knock on him coming into the league was that he wasn't a between-the-tackles runner.

 

[Q_the_man]

I'm glad I wasn't GM that year, I think I wanted Woods out of OKla St. But then again that was a late 1st, total crap shoot on BPA

 

[Q_the_man]

Bush was dynamic, but the knock on him coming into the league was that he wasn't a between-the-tackles runner.

Bush needed another 10lbs on him but he was dynamic and a threat for years. What is the RB position term- not a slot back or a wing back? Flanker. Reggie Bush would have been a heck of a Flanker, a threat to run but a #3 slot WR. Think Wes Welker with speed, quickness and jukes for days, then he could carry the rock about 6-8 times a game.

 

[Shinaoi]

We do, but it's easier to find a dependable rb than it is most positions.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Well the team tries to trade for Murray, they tried to sign Miller. Last season they dropped hints publicly of wanting to trade for AD not to mention they visited every back in the draft. The draft just didn't work out, I believe if Gregory didn't fall to the second, we liked a few players there.

The team has shown they are interested in making a significant upgrade, nothing about McFaddens or Morris's contract guarantees them a roster spot. I fully expect them to draft someone...where? That depends on how the draft falls.

Ok if Browns get RG3 let's say they go Ramsey or Bosa 2nd, Chargers get the one the Browns don't get, what do you do at 4?

 

[Idgit]

We won't touch RB until probably the third round.

We need QB, and we need defense. RB is a position that can be filled later.

 

[Thomas82]

Hey guys, just a thought about RB position for the Cowboys, just a little fan talk.

I'm not excited about Morris. Yes, I think he's a capable RB for spot duty but long term is the question.

Some will say a RB NFL life is 4-5 years, well McFadden and Morris are both past that mark. Also that's an avg lifespan. Most good to great RBs play 10+ years. Not the Derrick Lassic's, Felix Jones and a host of other 4-5 year RBs.

Just think Dallas has always being about a great RB, it's no coincidence that Murray ran for 1800 and we had our best season in 17 years then he leaves- granted injury- we have our worse record in 27 years.

There is normally 3 positions I say Dallas is known for drafting their own. That's QB (Staubach-Aikman ,
RB (Dorsett- Emmitt) , WR (every #88 except Antonio Bryant).

We can always grab a young HOF impact player in FA at any position (granted we might overpay) except what position? QB and RB! Peyton Manning not included

That's all I'm saying, food for thought.

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I couldn't agree more!!

 

[Fletch]

Hey guys, just a thought about RB position for the Cowboys, just a little fan talk.

I'm not excited about Morris. Yes, I think he's a capable RB for spot duty but long term is the question.

Some will say a RB NFL life is 4-5 years, well McFadden and Morris are both past that mark. Also that's an avg lifespan. Most good to great RBs play 10+ years. Not the Derrick Lassic's, Felix Jones and a host of other 4-5 year RBs.

Just think Dallas has always being about a great RB, it's no coincidence that Murray ran for 1800 and we had our best season in 17 years then he leaves- granted injury- we have our worse record in 27 years.

There is normally 3 positions I say Dallas is known for drafting their own. That's QB (Staubach-Aikman ,
RB (Dorsett- Emmitt) , WR (every #88 except Antonio Bryant).

We can always grab a young HOF impact player in FA at any position (granted we might overpay) except what position? QB and RB! Peyton Manning not included

That's all I'm saying, food for thought.

I'm back....... I missed you guys....

Couldn't agree more. Well said. Ezekiel Elliott anyone?

 

[dfense]

Morris has never missed a game. If he has half as good a year as McFadden had last year with the Cowboys, they will be fine. They have a 1-2 punch at RB, both downhill runners who fit their scheme and they filled a hole. It's good business.

 

[CATCH17]

Hey guys, just a thought about RB position for the Cowboys, just a little fan talk.

I'm not excited about Morris. Yes, I think he's a capable RB for spot duty but long term is the question.

Some will say a RB NFL life is 4-5 years, well McFadden and Morris are both past that mark. Also that's an avg lifespan. Most good to great RBs play 10+ years. Not the Derrick Lassic's, Felix Jones and a host of other 4-5 year RBs.

Just think Dallas has always being about a great RB, it's no coincidence that Murray ran for 1800 and we had our best season in 17 years then he leaves- granted injury- we have our worse record in 27 years.

There is normally 3 positions I say Dallas is known for drafting their own. That's QB (Staubach-Aikman ,
RB (Dorsett- Emmitt) , WR (every #88 except Antonio Bryant).

We can always grab a young HOF impact player in FA at any position (granted we might overpay) except what position? QB and RB! Peyton Manning not included

That's all I'm saying, food for thought.

I'm back....... I missed you guys....

We can find that type of player anywhere in the draft though. It doesn't have to be a name like Ezekiel Elliot.

It's up to our scouts to finally hit on one of these guys.

 

[Silver N Blue]

We won't touch RB until probably the third round.

We need QB, and we need defense. RB is a position that can be filled later.

Put that in bold in the draft zone

 

[jazzcat22]

A great OL helps a good rb, ala Murray. Pretty sure we will still draft a rb. Dunbar is expected to start season on pup.

An elite OL and an elite RB, and top 5 QB and a top 5 WR.....what are people and the coaching staff missing here?

 

[jazzcat22]

We can find that type of player anywhere in the draft though. It doesn't have to be a name like Ezekiel Elliot.

It's up to our scouts to finally hit on one of these guys.

So pass up on a sure bet only to gamble on a player later when talent drops off, but hope you hit the jackpot with lower odds. Give me Elliot in the 1st, don't look back, as he won't be when breaking those long TD runs we been missing for years.

 

[CATCH17]

So pass up on a sure bet only to gamble on a player later when talent drops off, but hope you hit the jackpot with lower odds. Give me Elliot in the 1st, don't look back, as he won't be when breaking those long TD runs we been missing for years.

I don't see Elliot as a sure bet.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I would like a RB that we can rely on for years as well. But, given our other pressing needs, particularly at QB...I would rather address those and see if the Cowboys can find a RB later in on the draft. And we have repeatedly seen that RB's can be drafted in the 3rd round or 4th round (Murray was a 3rd rounder, Morris was a 6th rounder) and be extremely effective. Even moreso than the top rated RB prospects that go int he first round.

Where I like the Morris pickup is the price is very reasonable. I'm more leery of his health and if he can play the #2 RB spot. But if he can, I really like the pickup because he's a good zone runner that has the prototypical cut for zone running and he's big guy to have to take down. We can use McFadden to start and use his burst, we can use Morris to grind down the defense and then use Dunbar out of the backfield and occasionally get some carries. The question here will be the health of all 3 guys. If they can stay healthy and Dunbar still has his quickness and speed and Morris has juice left in those legs, I really like what we are doing at the RB spot for the next year.





YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Stephen Jackson miss was probably the biggest in Parcells career....the fact that he fell to us and we didn't take him was really hard to accept.

Why?

Ever notice how Jackson's team's underperformed?

Ever notice how Jackson missed some serious time almost every year of his career?

Or the fact that he couldn't pass protect very well?

I think Jackson was severely overrated. The bigger miss was that we traded down and took Julius Jones. Then when it looked like Jones had some real potential, Parcells changed him into a RB that he wasn't.







YR

 

[Stash]

I don't see Elliot as a sure bet.

I don't either. Didn't look too hard to run through the gaping holes his offensive line was regularly giving him.

I'm not knocking him, he's a fine player. But not one this team has to have and certainly not someone they need to pay more money to than they were willing to pay free agent backs they could have had with no draft compensation.

If nothing else, McFadden's numbers last season showed that this offensive line does play a huge part in any running backs' success.

 

[CWR]

Stephen Jackson miss was probably the biggest in Parcells career....the fact that he fell to us and we didn't take him was really hard to accept.

There were very few Cowboy fans not screaming at the TV when this happened. Sjax would have been awesome here. He carried a sorry rams team for years. Had he not.been the only offensive weapon they had I truly believe he had hall of fame ahead of him. It was as bad as a good QB going to cleveland.

 

[HanD]

I don't think this rules out anything. I think it was a smart and cheap move as insurance to an injury prone rb in DMC or at worst a rbbc. This doesn't FORCE us to have to draft rb this year. If it fits, great, if not next draft could be loaded at the position and we would still have a 28yo veteran rb on the roster just in case as backup/mentor. If we don't go rb this year we'll be solid and can swing again next year. If someone is there for the right value in the draft, go for it. But this to me is more about covering your bases and keeping options open in case someone falls in the draft or you trade back.

 

[CWR]

I would like a RB that we can rely on for years as well. But, given our other pressing needs, particularly at QB...I would rather address those and see if the Cowboys can find a RB later in on the draft. And we have repeatedly seen that RB's can be drafted in the 3rd round or 4th round (Murray was a 3rd rounder, Morris was a 6th rounder) and be extremely effective. Even moreso than the top rated RB prospects that go int he first round.

Where I like the Morris pickup is the price is very reasonable. I'm more leery of his health and if he can play the #2 RB spot. But if he can, I really like the pickup because he's a good zone runner that has the prototypical cut for zone running and he's big guy to have to take down. We can use McFadden to start and use his burst, we can use Morris to grind down the defense and then use Dunbar out of the backfield and occasionally get some carries. The question here will be the health of all 3 guys. If they can stay healthy and Dunbar still has his quickness and speed and Morris has juice left in those legs, I really like what we are doing at the RB spot for the next year.





YR

He had 8 straight 1000 yd seasons while catching 40-50 passes. The team around him was garbage and everyone knew it was on him. Can't really blame him for that. We needed a RB badly that year, if memory serves we were coming off of Troy Hambrick. We passed on our biggest need and the highest rated RB in the class to get cute and we netted Julius Jones and what Marcus Spears?