We need to call out Quinn for poor scheme

[nhcowboysfan]

I have always had two issues with Quinn's defenses. 1. They lean heavy towards stopping the pass and 2. They are all-or-nothing. They are fun when they are on, but that's predicated on having an early lead. Greg Olson made that point yesterday. That this defense is built on the Cowboys offense scoring often and early. Consider his time with Atlanta. In the 2016 season, Quinn's defenses allowed over 30 points seven times. On three other occasions the opponents scored 28 points twice, and one (the Chiefs) 29 points. Atlanta had a pretty good record that year primarily because their offense scored 30+ points a game and in some instances 40+. That was also the season they lost to the Patriots in the Super Bowl. His defenses cater too much toward hybrid players that can switch between Safety and Linebacker (which is a deficit against stopping the run - point #1). And when they can't get sacks and turnovers their defense is quite pedestrian (point 2). Very rarely, do you ever see this defense get a three-and-out. I would much prefer that, because a defense that forces other teams to punt - rather than relying and hoping for turnovers - is a better overall and more consistent defense.

 

[DuncanIso]

Quinn's scheme is fine if the opposing offense is bent on throwing the ball 80-85 percent of the time with only a token run game. But if they are going to run right at your undersized players, good luck.

Truth

They are so stubborn with that 4-2-5 scheme.

 

[DuncanIso]

Quinn needs to be replaced.

No way man.

To be fair, our D had no help yesterday.

 

[plasticman]

Seriously outcoached.

How do you not see this coming? The Cowboys middle have sacrificed size for speed, even on the defensive line. The only serious anchor against the run, Hankins, isn't playing. Their running game sent 300 pound guards after 210 pound Marquese Bell.

Say what you will about Vander Esch, but we could have used him that day.

Anyway, it's done. Hopefully, they can pull something out of this that will help them against Miami.

 

[Bagman]

No way man.

To be fair, our D had no help yesterday.

From who ? The offense? The offense can't help the defense when the defense is on the field. It would be too many men on the field. The 11 defenders had a HORRIBLE game when it was their turn to perform.

 

[Toro9]

Like I said in another thread, he's a smart guy, maybe even a genius but that doesn't mean he's not flawed. He seems to pick a scheme for a game and stick with it, no matter what. Am I mistaken?

 

[DanA]

Quinn had banked a lot of good will but this was the wrong strategy for the conditions, the opposition, and then game situation.

I’d have like to see Micah play a roving linebacker role on 1st down, and run plays. If he’s got a gap assignment and isn’t playing contain he’s damn effective and much harder to take out of the game. You still want him as a pass rusher but there was a better way to use him.

 

[Mark]

DQ has been an extremely successful DC, by any measurable metric, in a "passing" League.

Until a team - quite brilliantly - decides to go all "Army" on him.

Question is: How do you adjust to counter that strategy?

 

[thunderpimp91]

DQ has been an extremely successful DC, by any measurable metric, in a "passing" League.

Until a team - quite brilliantly - decides to go all "Army" on him.

Question is: How do you adjust to counter that strategy?

Better question is do they have the personnel to counter that strategy….after losing LVE and Hankins they really don’t have the bodies to play the run consistently. I’m still shocked they played with a deep safety as much as they did yesterday. I would have thought DQ eventually would have crowded the LOS and challenged Buffalo to throw the ball some.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Most of yards were on the edges
Biiggest issue was DE and LB

 

[vig454]

Our defense looked slow playing in a grass field. They need to start practicing on sand .

 

[Frosty]

His Defense works if you have a big lead in the game and force teams to pass. It won't work against the ball control/ physical defense style teams SF/ Bal/ Buf etc.....we're built to be mediocre .....

Ask NE how his defense worked....up 28-3 in the Superbowl and DQ lost....lol. Just kidding.... But really DQ is a perfect for Dallas Cowboys....all show and no go... fits right into Jerry's glamour franchise

 

[DanA]

Better question is do they have the personnel to counter that strategy….after losing LVE and Hankins they really don’t have the bodies to play the run consistently. I’m still shocked they played with a deep safety as much as they did yesterday. I would have thought DQ eventually would have crowded the LOS and challenged Buffalo to throw the ball some.

I think they do.

• Hankins and Mazi have plenty of size
• Osa punches above his weight
• Armstrong is long and great at containing
• Lawrence is one of the best run defending edge rushers
• Micah is a 4.3 linebacker that’s probably above 250lbs now
• We have good safeties against the run

Really, if we want to, we can scheme to stop the run. It’s probably only Gallimore that’s ill suited.

 

[stilltheguru]

Danny McCray said we didn't get bullied. Said it was a bunch of missing gaps. Hmmmm

 

[goshann]

Linebackers and safeties sucked

 

[IceStar-D7]

We need a tougher DC. Quinn just been here far to long.

 

[Momanpr100]

I was wondering did we win the toss. This team for sure needs to score first. Guys yesterday tried to tell me you always defer. How can anyone watch yesterday and say that?

I remember the announcers saying we won the toss