We need to look at Barwin and Simon

Joe Realist · Mar 9, 2017

Maybe we get Chris Long this year?

Fla Cowpoke · Mar 9, 2017

So for the woe is me guys. Would you take Barwin or Simon over Jack Crawford?

haleyrules · Mar 9, 2017

Joe Realist said:
Maybe we get Chris Long this year?

Or maybe....5 or 6 yrs from now!

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Joe Realist · Mar 9, 2017

Pabst said:
Another plus is that since Barwin was released/cut, signing him would not impact the awarding of compensatory picks.

They should look at Barwin.

AbeBeta · Mar 9, 2017

lane said:
Those two guys are very aggressive and get after people.

3-4 4-3 I could not care less...they affect games.

I like Barwin. He's a classic RKG too

dwreck27 · Mar 9, 2017

Ive always had a disdain for him when we would play philly...

Fitting he might end up being one of our "key pieces" to getting over the hump

BAT · Mar 9, 2017

tm1119 said:
Yes, Barwin was cut because he's garbage as a 4-3 end. He's a 3-4 strong side guy who is good at setting the edge and covering the flat. Think Anthony Spencer but a step and a 1/2 slower.

Simon I'm interested in. I think he can get after the QB as a situational pass rusher. He played with his hand in the dirt at Ohio State

Barwin is actually faster than Spencer. And not by just a little. 4.59 at combine (4.47 pro day) vs. 4.73 (4.69 pro day). Barwin's actually a better fit as a wide 9 because speed and athleticism is his thing. Good at setting edge too because unselfish nature. He only played one season in college as a pass rusher, so even after so many years in league he's still learning the position (former TE). Fast but not elite first step or as naturally bendy.

He is one of those hair on fire/try harder than anyone else guys who Marinelli loves, not to mention he's still got that chase down speed. Would sign him if not price is not steep.

stilltheguru88 · Mar 9, 2017

BAT said:
Barwin is actually faster than Spencer. And not by just a little. 4.59 at combine (4.47 pro day) vs. 4.73 (4.69 pro day). Barwin's actually a better fit as a wide 9 because speed and athleticism is his thing. Good at setting edge too because unselfish nature. He only played one season in college as a pass rusher, so even after so many years in league he's still learning the position (former TE). Fast but not elite first step or as naturally bendy.

He is one of those hair on fire/try harder than anyone else guys who Marinelli loves, not to mention he's still got that chase down speed. Would sign him if not price is not steep.

Can't bring up combine numbers to that genius

sweetness0986 · Mar 9, 2017

big dog cowboy said:
All I see is 26.5 sacks the last 3 years. Rotational guy.

This is very likely more than the entire Cowboys team has had in the last 3 years.

Doesn't hurt to take a looksie.

Rogerthat12 · Mar 9, 2017

big dog cowboy said:
Barwin especially. Wouldn't be one of those realy big deals either.

I am all in for Barwin, type of player and possible contract the Cowboys may be able to do.

tm1119 · Mar 10, 2017

BAT said:
Barwin is actually faster than Spencer. And not by just a little. 4.59 at combine (4.47 pro day) vs. 4.73 (4.69 pro day). Barwin's actually a better fit as a wide 9 because speed and athleticism is his thing. Good at setting edge too because unselfish nature. He only played one season in college as a pass rusher, so even after so many years in league he's still learning the position (former TE). Fast but not elite first step or as naturally bendy.

He is one of those hair on fire/try harder than anyone else guys who Marinelli loves, not to mention he's still got that chase down speed. Would sign him if not price is not steep.

Have you actually watched Barwin play lately? I live 15 mins away from Philly and unfortunately get stuck with all of the eagles games on tv and listene to all of their sports talk radio...it's not my opinion, he's just not a fit. Youre saying he's a perfect fit in the wide 9, yet he's cut the 1st off season after a wide 9 coach took over for the eagles...and the eagles DE's stink aside from Graham. Barwin even puplicly said he'd take a pay cut to stay in Philly...didn't happen.

But don't take my word for it.... https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/www....-the-worst-edge-rushers-in-nfl-last-year/amp/

tm1119 · Mar 10, 2017

stilltheguru88 said:
Can't bring up combine numbers to that genius

That's because people who actually understand football don't look at combine numbers and think they automatically translate to the football field. Just common football sense you can't get your little brain around. Still butt hurt because I called you out for comparing Daeshon Hall to JPP tho? Funny stuff man.

Alexander · Mar 10, 2017

This would have been a good trade for the Cowboys:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000792132/article/rams-agree-to-trade-william-hayes-to-dolphins

The Los Angeles Rams are sending defensive end William Hayes to the Miami Dolphins.

In a trade announced late Thursday night, Los Angeles said the Dolphins have agreed to send their sixth-round pick (No. 206) in exchange for Hayes and the Rams' seventh-round pick (No. 223).
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Wait, that means the Dolphins absorbed his $5M contract. Well, as we all know, we can do whatever we want in free agency.

John813 · Mar 10, 2017

Wouldn't mind Simon due to age.

Alexander · Mar 10, 2017

John813 said:
Wouldn't mind Simon due to age.

He is one of the few young rushers left. I doubt we even bother. Probably look at the fact he's 6-1 and say "too short". Barwin "too old". Both are better fits in 3-man lines as an off the line player.

Just keep digging through the rosters and find some obscure restricted free agent somewhere who had two sacks in a preseason. That is probably our speed.

tm1119 · Mar 10, 2017

Alexander said:
He is one of the few young rushers left. I doubt we even bother. Probably look at the fact he's 6-1 and say "too short". Barwin "too old". Both are better fits in 3-man lines as an off the line player.

Just keep digging through the rosters and find some obscure restricted free agent somewhere who had two sacks in a preseason. That is probably our speed.

Jacquise Smith is the guy I'm alreay calling. Restricted free agent and even coming off a major knee injury. Checks a lot of boxes for the Cowboys

Alexander · Mar 10, 2017

John813 · Mar 10, 2017

That's not a bad deal.

Assume the Colts are in a 3-4?
Can't recall.

Silver N Blue · Mar 10, 2017

darthseinfeld said:
Simon who?

Says...

BAT · Mar 10, 2017

tm1119 said:
Have you actually watched Barwin play lately? I live 15 mins away from Philly and unfortunately get stuck with all of the eagles games on tv and listene to all of their sports talk radio...it's not my opinion, he's just not a fit. Youre saying he's a perfect fit in the wide 9, yet he's cut the 1st off season after a wide 9 coach took over for the eagles...and the eagles DE's stink aside from Graham. Barwin even puplicly said he'd take a pay cut to stay in Philly...didn't happen.

But don't take my word for it.... https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/www....-the-worst-edge-rushers-in-nfl-last-year/amp/

That was Barwin's first experience in wide 9 and he was thinking way too much for one. And 2, Schwartz doesn't run a true wide 9, his 9's play their gaps tighter with more run and stunt reponsibilities, also uses other schemes as well.

Washburn was completely married to concepts of wide 9 and was one reason Eags led league in sacks in 2011-2012.

Plus Barwin is 30 and likely slowing down physically as well.

We need to look at Barwin and Simon

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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