We should still take a corner in the 1st even if we get Pac-man.

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Pac-man has sit for almost what 2 years. To think this guy will come in and man the nickle position after being gone so long wouldn't be smart IMO. I think he will have to learn the speed of the game all over again. It took Tank awhile to get back and he wasn't gone as long as Mr. Jones so I think it is imperative that we take a corner in the 1st regardless of what we do with Mr.Jones. It would make it a smoother transition and we wouldn't have to rush Mr. Jones back. In the meantime he could return punts and kickoffs.
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He played in 2006. He was suspended last year.

I do think we will get a CB in the 1st though.
 

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i wnat to see Newman extended, Henry play out his contract, Pacman come in and work out AND draft a CB.

Doing that will give the draft pick a year or two to devlop and then when Henry leaves we would have a CB tandem of Newman, Jones and #1 draft pick for several years.

We would probably have the best cornerbacks in the league.
 

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Im 50/50 on this issue.

If we get Pacman we may go some different ways.

We could go sell the farm for McFadden.

We may trade up for someone.

We may trade a 1st for a vet receiver and get a RB.

If Dallas signs him its going to be an even more interesting draft.
 

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CATCH17;2012419 said:
Im 50/50 on this issue.

If we get Pacman we may go some different ways.

We could go sell the farm for McFadden.

We may trade up for someone.

We may trade a 1st for a vet receiver and get a RB.

If Dallas signs him its going to be an even more interesting draft.
I agree and I could live with any of those scenarios except the RB in the 1st scenario unless it Dmac but even with those I would hope we get a CB in the 2nd rd.
 

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If we get PacMan our first two picks should be used on WR and RB. Why draft a CB in the first to be number 4 on the depth chart? I'd wait till the 2nd or 3rd round to draft a cb.
 

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I've asked this in several threads, but how many teams have 2 good CBs, much less 4? If the Cowboys got Pacman, they would have 3 top 10 (maybe not Henry) CBs. What other team can claim anything close?

I think you guys are not realizing how good of a CB situation the Cowboys are in. A 1st round CB is not necessary with Pacman on board. There are more pressing needs.
 

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jesusphreak;2012563 said:
I've asked this in several threads, but how many teams have 2 good CBs, much less 4? If the Cowboys got Pacman, they would have 3 top 10 (maybe not Henry) CBs. What other team can claim anything close?

I think you guys are not realizing how good of a CB situation the Cowboys are in. A 1st round CB is not necessary with Pacman on board. There are more pressing needs.

We got burnt last year because both Newman and Henry battled injuries so teams would pick Reeves. Once they were healthy, teams would spread us out forcing us to put Reeves on the field still and continue picking on him. If either Newman or Henry get injured or Jones gets suspended, we need a competent #3. I agree though, a #1 CB is not needed, I would spend a 2nd/3rd though.
 

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It really depends upon where the value is at CB this year. There seems to be multiple CBs that can go in the 1st (DRC, Talib, etc...). If you feel you can get a good #3 with a 2nd rounder, you do it. If you think that the talent level past the first 3 guys is not as good, you need to go CB in the first.

We know RB is deep, so there is no need to go RB in the first. Pick a solid CB and WR if they are the BPA at the spot and don't look back...even if we get Pacman.
 

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jesusphreak;2012563 said:
I've asked this in several threads, but how many teams have 2 good CBs, much less 4? If the Cowboys got Pacman, they would have 3 top 10 (maybe not Henry) CBs. What other team can claim anything close?

I think you guys are not realizing how good of a CB situation the Cowboys are in. A 1st round CB is not necessary with Pacman on board. There are more pressing needs.
That's the thing, we aren't talkin about other teams. Were talkin about the Cowboys and we play defense differently then those other teams.

Other teams don't take they #1 corner and put him in the slot like we do. Other teams don't ask there nickel to cover the #1 or#2 receivers on the opposing teams.

I think Pac-man will be a decent pickup but do you want to trust a guy who has been arrested 6 times and has been proven to make bad decisions after bad decisions over and over again to be there if our 32 yr old corner(Henry) goes down or to handle the nickle for the entire year knowing we are a hair away of asking Alan Ball or a 3rd rder to man those position on this Superbowl team.

All I am saying is get some insurance.
 

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Future;2012526 said:
If we get PacMan our first two picks should be used on WR and RB. Why draft a CB in the first to be number 4 on the depth chart? I'd wait till the 2nd or 3rd round to draft a cb.

um, cause pacman is one pacman move away from being out of the nfl forever.

i'm only going to roll the dice so far with him. if he doesn't pan out DO NOT put us in a position to hurt more than it has to. saying "fixed" by signing him doesn't fix it.
 

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Come on, Jerry isn't going to get Pacman and then draft a CB in the first round. I just don't see that happening. Especially not in view of the fact he's facing a decision to pay Newman huge $$ next season.

Our scouts will identify other CBs that will be available in the mid rounds.
 

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iceberg;2012631 said:
um, cause pacman is one pacman move away from being out of the nfl forever.

i'm only going to roll the dice so far with him. if he doesn't pan out DO NOT put us in a position to hurt more than it has to. saying "fixed" by signing him doesn't fix it.


Agreed.
 

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You can't trust Pac Man and you can't trust that he will be as good as before. We need a 1st round corner no matter what
 

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CaptainAmerica;2012638 said:
Come on, Jerry isn't going to get Pacman and then draft a CB in the first round. I just don't see that happening. Especially not in view of the fact he's facing a decision to pay Newman huge $$ next season.

Our scouts will identify other CBs that will be available in the mid rounds.

Captain:

I disagree here. There is no better time to pickup a first round corner than this year as the talent level is there. Also, due to the fact that you mentioned, Newman's renewal, you'd like to have some fallback plans should one of these guys do really well. If anything, it gives you leverage to know that you have a potential replacement for TNEW on the roster already.

Drafting is primarily about looking ahead and filling gaps BEFORE they exist and FA is for filling needs that are immediate, IMO.
 

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CB is the most pressing need on this team. Period. Signing Pacman doesn't change that because you can't count on him. We all saw what happened when we had to rely on Reeves in the playoff game. You want that to happen again if Pacman flames out on us? We can't take that chance. Go CB in the 1st round. Remember this - you can never have to many good CB's in this pass happy league.
 

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I think getting Pacman would allow Dallas some flexibility in the draft. Dallas could now go after the best player available as for now if they see a RB that is better than the CB, they'd better go after the CB since there's a future and immediate need there. But with Pacman they could take the highest player available and with the deep CB class still pick up a quality CB in the second round. It helps that the CB class is so deep. Otherwise I would agree that getting a first round CB is likely a must.




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If we don't draft a CB in the 1st round, regardless of whether or not Pacman is signed, I will be furious. Anyone who thinks we shoud do otherwise doesn't understand the gravity of having two 30+ year old cornerbacks. Reeves started 13 games last season!!! If we sign Pacman and any combination of injuries or suspensions happen, Alan Ball and/or Evan Oglesby will be covering guys like Kevin Curtis, Steve Smith, and Antwaan Randle El all year long.

Yikes.
 

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CaptainAmerica;2012638 said:
Come on, Jerry isn't going to get Pacman and then draft a CB in the first round. I just don't see that happening. Especially not in view of the fact he's facing a decision to pay Newman huge $$ next season.

Our scouts will identify other CBs that will be available in the mid rounds.


Agreed.

Maybe in the 2nd round but if we sign Pacman I think our priorities will change.

Not saying thats what i'd do. Just what I thinks gonna happen.
 
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