We won't be players in Free Agency

Galian Beast

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,735
Reaction score
7,457
You don't restructure Lee. Doesn't even make that much room and 2014 will be the highest cap charge for him for the contract. Take the charge and enjoy $4.5M and $5M charges for 2015 and 2016. Well, enjoy it assuming he's playing.

Having good players takes cap space. How many years can anyone honestly expect to have guys playing on minimum salaries with contracts of $50M or more?

Once you remove Ware and Austin's contracts the salary cap opens up a great deal. Getting rid of these older players in general opens up avenues. With that being said though, you still want to be competitive in the interim...
 

burmafrd

Well-Known Member
Messages
43,820
Reaction score
3,379
If you think we are cutting Ware...then you don't understand how Jerry Jones thinks. First of all...Jerry will wear like a badge of honor the fact that Parcells wanted Merriman and Jerry wanted Ware. That decision is his crown jewel and he will promote that to his deathbed. He will work every contact to make sure Ware gets in the HOF. He will make sure Ware is in the Ring of Honor. I truly believe Ware is a lifer. Ware certainly has been a good player. But if at the end of his playing career....if he has ONE playoff win. I will be moved very little when I see his name in the Ring of Honor and/or HOF. Because he will represent EVERYTHING the post Jimmy Johsnson era has stood for. And that is SUCCESS at things other than winning. You know like wealthiest owner...most valuable francise....most popular cheerleaders.....biggest HDTV....best TV ratings....most headlines....biggest payroll. All the stuff we are the best at. And for me...that is pointless! Face it...we are the "off the field champs"

I will cheer LOUDLY and happily when Ware goes into the Ring Of Honor. Unlike some I am not small minded and petty enough to blame one person for what someone else did
 

theSHOW

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,491
Reaction score
1,146
Free Agency
At least not in March. Which is really unfortunate as we desperately need help via free agency on the defensive line. The one positive note is that if Brian Waters returns next year, we'll probably be signing him late into the offseason.

Off Season Moves
The first major moves involve restructuring Romo, Witten, and Lee. Followed by potential cuts to Bernadeau, Parnell, Costa, Durant, Irvin, Hayden, Brown, Moore, Johnson, Nevis, Clutts, Wilson, Webb, Lemon, Olson, and Heath.

Salary Cap Management
That would put us at about 8.1 million under the cap (assuming the cap is what is being currently projected), except that we're going to have to do something about Jones and Bailey. Giving Bailey a 2nd round tender would bring us down to 5.5 million. I think more likely they'll want to sign him longer term and get that 2014 cap hit lower.

Regardless that 5.5 million doesn't give us much freedom in free agency. I'd still like to see us sign one if not two defensive linemen with that, and backload their salaries.

If we are unable to sign any free agent linemen that will tell me that this defense probably won't be much better next year. Unless we can really hit it big in the draft, and something falls into our laps in free agency after June 1st cuts.

June 1st
We're allowed to designate two june 1st cuts. I'm guessing those will be Ware and Austin, at least to suck up some of the free agency dollars out there. That will give us another 18.3 million dollars in June, and will really let us work around things like extending Smith and Bryant, and perhaps even work some trades or at the very least go after that 2nd free agency market pretty aggressively. It'll certainly allow us to resign Waters if he doesn't retire.

Being able to resign Waters will be a huge factor in this team's success next year, I hope he can commit to return before the draft. Either way we still need to draft a guard. Worst case, they replace Waters, best case they compete with/replace Leary.

I don't see how we can manage to replace Free this year, but next year will be his last year in Dallas unless he becomes a beast in 2014.

Problems/Solutions
Biggest issue on offense will be the running back position. I don't envision we can invest in Murray, but fixing this defense takes priority of replacing him as a starter. Running back is going to be a pretty big issue for us next year, it'll be interesting to see how we address the problem. Hail mary idea, but with the money we save by cutting Ware/Austin, we'd probably be able to put money into a trade for AP. And before naysayers suggest that is a Madden move, his contract would be fairly affordable for his production. 4 years 55 million. Equivalent of signing a player like AP to a 4 year deal with a 44 million dollar contract with a 10.845 million dollar signing bonus. He would cost 3.566 million in year one. In this case I would try to package Murray and 2015 1st or 2nd round draft pick. Worst case scenario we would get 2 years out of him on the somewhat cheap, by restructuring his 2nd year, and releasing him his 3rd year (where the dead money from other players would be less of a factor). To me the real question would come down to compensation to Minnesota.

On defense we're going to need 4 new starters on the defensive line (3 if you count selvie or not, 2 if you count Ben Bass). This means at minimum you'd want 1 free agent and 1 high round draft pick, but likely two high round draft picks on the defensive line. A lot of people will see what a new world opens up without DeMarcus Ware and Miles Austin.

Development
I think if we can keep the improvements coming to the offensive line, have Williams/Beasley continue to develop, have Escobar continue to develop, and then we address the running back position and the defensive line, you'll see this team turn the corner pretty quickly. All of which I think is not only possible but easy to do.

And you still have players that you would bring back and see if they can finally contribute like Wilcox and Johnson.

Conclusion
The two single players holding this franchise back the most are Miles Austin and DeMarcus Ware. We currently have 147 million of which Austin and Ware represent 24.2 million or 16%. They are 1/6th of our entire salary, and we're getting little to no production from them. You think back to this year and add Spencer and Ratliff to them... and it's actually surprising that we made it to 7-6. It's really a credit to how well Romo has been playing.

I don't think the future is necessarily dim for us, but it really depends on whether or not the front office makes some in my opinion quite obvious moves, the two biggest being parting ways with Austin and Ware. If Ware is given another year here, expect another poor defense.

I'm at the point where I think this season is basically over, and if Garrett and Kiffin are definitely going to be here next year, it's probably best to start playing younger players who are going to be vital next year.

Amendment:

If they really plan on keeping Carr (which I think is a mistake), you can restructure him and save an additional 5 million against the cap next year. Which would certainly help us make some moves earlier in free agency. And if we can use that money to get a better defensive line, that would probably make Carr more valuable.

Nice going. I enjoy reading posts like this and I appreciate the effort. I would hope our general manager would contemplate the different ideas and scenarios also as this team needs a serious plan. Saying that I laughed outloud when I read about sending away a 1st round draft pick and pushing all our chips to the middle of the table in going after Adrian Peterson. Yes! we need to get rid of Ware. Murray shouldn't be resigned for anything too big or let him walk. Same with Dez. I do wonder how much value we could get instead of spending the all important cap percentage on his possible cancerous attitude and fumbles. My take. Simple. Build this team through the draft and getting picks for high priced players is A2. A1 is signing the left tack Tyron Smith.
 

black label

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,919
Reaction score
8,100
18 years of cap greatness?

never said we were great at it. go back to the ranch and whine and complain about Jerry for the rest of your life

GkTCVJY.gif
 

NoLuv4Jerry

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,698
Reaction score
4,911
I will cheer LOUDLY and happily when Ware goes into the Ring Of Honor. Unlike some I am not small minded and petty enough to blame one person for what someone else did

I am not BLAMING him...I just feel like this entire era of Cowboys of football has pretty much been a money grab. Jerry got his stadium, has the most valuable franchise...players got paid left and right....and there has been very little winning. So for me, nothing honorable has taken place...unless you are judging it based on a financial statements. Because if you are recognizing this era of Cowboy football based on the results on the field...it has been average.

I don't have the names and stats in front of me...but I would be curious to know how many names in the ring of honor have ONE....ONE playoff win.

Also would be curious to what you think about Romo. Who will also own every Cowboys passing record when he is done...how should he be remembered. Is Danny White in the Ring of Honor? Not sure, just asking. And I am not a Romo hater. I actually really like him. And in my opinion has been the best Cowboy player over the last 8 years. Of course he has not been perfect. And he is not Peyton Manning/Ton Brady...but he has been plenty good enough to win with...it's just the fact that the other highly paid players on this team have not done enough.
 

coult44

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,876
Reaction score
7,653
never said we were great at it. go back to the ranch and whine and complain about Jerry for the rest of your life

GkTCVJY.gif

Let's see, I've been here since 2007, why would I do that? Don't have to put up with people like you over here.... Your personal crap won't be tolerated here cause folks actually know and talk football....
 

jobberone

Kane Ala
Messages
54,219
Reaction score
19,659
Was very good and well written article. Most of us would agree with a lot of it.

I can see us designating Austin as a June 1st cut but Jerry in no way will cut Ware, just not in his nature and frankly probably a mistake. He will restructure Ware though, IMO pretty sure on that one.

Currently if you go to the salary cap web sites and there are several, our cap number for 2014 currently is $149.6 mil and the projected cap that the owners were informed of at the winter meeting is supposed to be $126.3 mil although based on history it most likely will rise from that number slightly but wouldn't expect it to be more than $128.1 mil unless some agreement is worked out with the NFLPA who believes the cap should be around $137 mil this year.

Every year it seems we go through this time of we are in cap hell and won't be able to do anything and yet after Steven Jones gets done with restructures, cuts, carryover, money that is alloted for incentives that were not achieved, and June 1st designations, we seem to get under the cap significantly to do the things like sign a few free agents, resign/extend some contracts i.e. Smith and Bryant so I just don't get overly concerned about it until I see it not happen and frankly I don't see that ever happening.

Out of that $149.3 mil cap number for 2014, over $11.7 mil is dead money mainly from Livings and Ratliff.

I agree that we need to fix several things, mainly the D line and still would like to see the right side of the O line improved.

I could see Jason and Jerry making several moves in the off season that would not surprise me like trading for Jonathan Martin RT Miami for say Free, Costa and Bernadeau. Some will argue that Martin is either not worth it or that he is worth more but the fact is he will never play for the Dolpins again so anything for him would be a plus. I think Jerry goes to Calvin Hill and says would Martin be fine in Dallas and if he does then he makes the deal.

In free agency, I really believe we resign Waters at OG IF we don't sign Jon Asamoah OG Kansas City. I think that will be the big target. I do see us probably signing a DT possibly like Desmond Bryant but IMO we won't sign any D line guy north of 28 years old.

I know many want to revamp the secondary but IMO the secondary needs a D line to show some type of pressure in order to be effective. Did some timing issues the last 3 games and QBs averaged 4.8 seconds in the pocket to throw the ball as opposed to the Carolina and Seattle Ds only allowing the QB 2.9 seconds to throw the ball. That kills a secondary.

The draft HAS to be a win for us and mainly on the D although I will say this, if Mike Evans WR Texas A&M is there when we draft in the first round, in no way would it surprise me to see us select him. Mistake, maybe but two big WR like Bryant and Evans with Williams on the outside and our TEs makes a offense hard to stop and improves the running game.

But my draft would go something like this: based on CBSports draft rankings
1. RaShede Hageman DT Minnesota - great motor, 3 down guy, leader, tough, great size, gets a good push
2. Kony Ealy DE Missouri - great height and motor, long arms, good pursuit guy
3. Jefferson Jeffcoat DE Texas - prototypical size, good motor, will surprise, good speed, will be better than his Dad
3a. Dominque Easley DT Florida - if not for injury a 1st rd pick, not do back until Oct., leader, Sapp type guy
4. Gabe Jackson OG Mississippi St. - needs watch his weight but he dominates in the run game
4a. Daniel McCullers DT Tennessee - huge guy, needs some time but good rotation guy, will benefit of ST
5. Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB/FS Nebraska - better FS than CB but Neb had CB problems, late bloomer, good size for today's WR
6. De'Anthony Thomas RB Oregon - size is the problem but ultra fast, great screen guy
7. Casey Pachall QB TCU - why him just that we need to start drafting a QB every year until we find one to eventually replace Romo

JMO

Great post. I also think they will restructure and/or renegotiate Ware with the caveat he needs his neck looked at oh so thoroughly with multiple opinions. You don't have this problem without some sort of compression either cord or nerve root. Having said that I imagine that's been done multiple times already in the past couple of years.

They will likely consider bringing Waters back depending on his health and best guess to what he can take. I have no problem with getting a G in FA. I personally would go after a DB or DL but G is often generally a safer and less costly acquistion.

I personally love Kelvin Benjamin. I saw him a few weeks back at length and went wow. I just got to following that up and it seems most everyone has done the same. I don't have a problem with someone like that. Big, fast, strong receiver.

Austin will have to renegotiate his contract to stay with the Cowboys. I suspect he will refuse that and look elsewhere and likely get a contract.

We need one more CB who can play and we need a playmaking safety. I don't care if they are already here or come from elsewhere. We just need them. Couldn't agree more about the pass rush. Hard to beat up on the DBs with our pass rush. However, they still need improvement IMO.

Like the draft.
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Once you remove Ware and Austin's contracts the salary cap opens up a great deal. Getting rid of these older players in general opens up avenues. With that being said though, you still want to be competitive in the interim...

Those 2(Ware and Austin) are the key to the short term cap relief Dallas needs. If you can trade Ware for anything(hopefully a 2nd or 3rd) and make Austin a June 1st cut, Dallas can be very aggressive in FA. I would spend FA on the DL/DE first, maybe get an OG if Waters is done and then SLB. I would draft the best FS if possible and go DT next or visa versa.

Dallas cannot keep Ware at his current numbers. He probably won't take a big pay cut, so trading him seems like the best option. The team that gets him would have $0 in guarantees and could renegotiate if they wanted multiple years. He still has plenty left, but Dallas has to go in another direction. Miles is already replaced and his cap hits are huge. Time to cut bait. I would also June 1st cut Orton and start grooming Romo's replacement for real and not mess around with anymore low ceiling guys.
 

Hoofbite

Well-Known Member
Messages
40,870
Reaction score
11,569
Once you remove Ware and Austin's contracts the salary cap opens up a great deal. Getting rid of these older players in general opens up avenues. With that being said though, you still want to be competitive in the interim...

Depends on what competitive means and I don't think Dallas has been. Being "in it until the end" because the division sucks doesn't do anything for me.
 

Galian Beast

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,735
Reaction score
7,457
Depends on what competitive means and I don't think Dallas has been. Being "in it until the end" because the division sucks doesn't do anything for me.

Until the breakdown of this defense we were always in games, despite how good a team we played. I don't think we're really that far away. We have some slight fixes to make on offense, and we need to put together a new defensive line.

One way or another I see those things happening.
 

jobberone

Kane Ala
Messages
54,219
Reaction score
19,659
Those 2(Ware and Austin) are the key to the short term cap relief Dallas needs. If you can trade Ware for anything(hopefully a 2nd or 3rd) and make Austin a June 1st cut, Dallas can be very aggressive in FA. I would spend FA on the DL/DE first, maybe get an OG if Waters is done and then SLB. I would draft the best FS if possible and go DT next or visa versa.

Dallas cannot keep Ware at his current numbers. He probably won't take a big pay cut, so trading him seems like the best option. The team that gets him would have $0 in guarantees and could renegotiate if they wanted multiple years. He still has plenty left, but Dallas has to go in another direction. Miles is already replaced and his cap hits are huge. Time to cut bait. I would also June 1st cut Orton and start grooming Romo's replacement for real and not mess around with anymore low ceiling guys.

If Ware will renegotiate his contract that's the way to go. I don't want to restructure him again but they may go that way. Austin is either renegotiate his contract or get cut. You can designate him a Jun 1st cut at some date I think. I think the rest is close to the way I'd go. I'd draft the safety in the first as they are a pretty safe be lately; guard, too. I get a pass rusher in the draft and in FA. you can always mix those up depending who is available in FA and the draft and the cost to acquire.
 

jterrell

Penguinite
Messages
33,874
Reaction score
15,971
Bernadeau has played well recently. His salary is 2.75M for 2014. They have Zero depth at Guard. Bernadeau can play Center which increases his value. They can't make decisions based on Waters coming back after training camp. He is a good option if they have injures in training camp, but counting on Waters is a bad plan.

Free's salary is 3.5M for 2014. If he gets cut, I don't think it would happen until after training camp. Parnell would need to win the job (which I think he can). They would also have to be convinced that they have a backup if Parnell is the starter. Weems appears to have the physical ability, but was raw in his technique/awareness in the 2013 training camp.

OL is a bad area to try to go cheap because it can get the QB killed.

I think Bernadeau will stay even if they draft a Guard in the 1st round. Costa might be gone if Bernadeau becomes the backup Guard/Center.

Leary is playing well, but has has knee problems. His right knee is a defect that could blow at any time; although, Jonathan Vilma had the same condition and never had a problem with it. Leary also had a problem with the left knee in training camp. They really need depth at this position.

OL isn't an issue at all unless Dallas creates one by cutting someone.

They have 8 solid NFL OL: Smith, Fred, Free, Bern, Leary, Parnell, Costa, Weems.
You'd love to have 9 and maybe that is ONE draft pick or a resigned Waters but OL isn't an issue AT ALL.
It would be ideal to get cheaper and better but the OL as is built is a winning group. We can't say that as many position areas.

Free can play OG to some extent and the team can keep it's best 5 on the field with the flexibility of Costa, Bern and Free.
 

jterrell

Penguinite
Messages
33,874
Reaction score
15,971
You don't restructure Lee. Doesn't even make that much room and 2014 will be the highest cap charge for him for the contract. Take the charge and enjoy $4.5M and $5M charges for 2015 and 2016. Well, enjoy it assuming he's playing.

Having good players takes cap space. How many years can anyone honestly expect to have guys playing on minimum salaries with contracts of $50M or more?

They plan to restructure Lee.
It is part of their "scheduled restructure" contract shenanigans.
I am not a fan of doing this while in roster revamping mode but alas it is what it is and there is little mystery to what they will do.
 

Vintage

The Cult of Jib
Messages
16,714
Reaction score
4,888
Why are we cutting Webb? Its not like he is taking up a bunch of cap space. He isn't going to get cut this soon.
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,202
Reaction score
64,709
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
OL isn't an issue at all unless Dallas creates one by cutting someone.

They have 8 solid NFL OL: Smith, Fred, Free, Bern, Leary, Parnell, Costa, Weems.
You'd love to have 9 and maybe that is ONE draft pick or a resigned Waters but OL isn't an issue AT ALL.
It would be ideal to get cheaper and better but the OL as is built is a winning group. We can't say that as many position areas.

Free can play OG to some extent and the team can keep it's best 5 on the field with the flexibility of Costa, Bern and Free.

They're 1 injury away from Phil Costa playing Guard or having to move Fred to Guard with Costa at Center. Also, Bernadeau, Leary and Costa have had injury issues in the past.

Free looked better in very limited snaps at Guard in 1 preseason game than I expected, but in general he is a weak run blocker at OT and that could get even worse at Guard.

Weems is a wildcard. It's a stretch to say that he is a solid NFL OLineman. He does have the physical requirements of size, strength, and athletic ability, but he was raw in training camp.

Parnell is probably the most talented player on the team that is not playing. I think they really missed out on getting him more experience this season because I'm convinced that with enough experience that he would be better than Free. I've studied Free and Parnell more than any players ever. Free is a wall-off type run blocker similar to a lot of TEs; whereas, Parnell is a mauler that can dominate defenders, but will whiff on occasion due to being overly aggressive.

I see Waters as an insurance policy. If they have problems at Guard due to injury coming out of training camp, then he is an option; however, making decisions in March based on Waters would be foolish. He was what you would expect from multiple time Pro Bowl player that is 36 or 37 years old. Good for a few games and then injured.
 
Top