Weeden Speaks

[Stash]

Is this your opinion or is it based on facts?

Just looking around the internet and found some numbers. I don't know how accurate they are, as I don't have as much knowledge of a lot of other NFL teams but this is interesting. The date of the article is December 10 and the team's record is in parenthesis. Notice the Cowboys are near the bottom in terms of the number of players lost for the year up until the time the article was written:

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/12/giants_again_rank_among_nfls_most_injured_teams.html

Players Out for the Season
Ravens (4-8) -- 18
Steelers (7-5) -- 16
Giants (5-7) -- 15Patriots (10-2) -- 15
Jaguars (4-8) -- 12
Cardinals (10-2) -- 12
Bears (5-7) -- 11
Chargers (3-9) -- 11
Saints (4-8) -- 11
Commanders (5-7) -- 11
Bills (6-6) -- 10
Texans (6-6) -- 10
Seahawks (7-5) -- 10
Lions (4-8) -- 10
Jets (7-5) -- 9
49ers (4-8) -- 9
Rams (4-8) -- 8
Colts (6-6) -- 8
Browns (2-10) -- 8
Eagles (5-7) -- 8
Titans (3-9) -- 7
Chiefs (7-5) -- 7
Vikings (8-4) -- 7
Packers (8-4) -- 6
Panthers (12-0) -- 6
Falcons (6-6) -- 6
Bucs (6-6) -- 6
Cowboys (4-8) -- 5
Broncos (10-2) -- 5
Raiders (5-7) -- 5
Dolphins (5-7) -- 3
Browns (2-10) -- 3

No no no...

This is the new math. Cowboys math.

Romo = 10 players by himself. Dez Bryant is another 7 players, and Lance Dunbar is worth like 5 guys too.

So, adding it all up, that's 22 players on any other team, and that = a 'get out of jail free' card for our front office and staff.

 

[Rack]

And yet, some way, some how, other teams actually manage to win games without their starting quarterback? In fact, some managed to win with the guys we couldn't win with. Inexplicable, isn't it?

Cuz QB's don't win games by themselves and the Cowboys have more problems than backup qb.

 

[Doomsday101]

Thus the offense doesn't work unless Tony makes something happen. No surprise.

Weeden helped the Cowboys put up 28 points on the falcons as a backup QB I would not call that a failure the defense did nothing to help in that game

 

[Wolfpack]

Is this your opinion or is it based on facts?

Just looking around the internet and found some numbers. I don't know how accurate they are, as I don't have as much knowledge of a lot of other NFL teams but this is interesting. The date of the article is December 10 and the team's record is in parenthesis. Notice the Cowboys are near the bottom in terms of the number of players lost for the year up until the time the article was written:

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/12/giants_again_rank_among_nfls_most_injured_teams.html

Players Out for the Season
Ravens (4-8) -- 18
Steelers (7-5) -- 16
Giants (5-7) -- 15Patriots (10-2) -- 15
Jaguars (4-8) -- 12
Cardinals (10-2) -- 12
Bears (5-7) -- 11
Chargers (3-9) -- 11
Saints (4-8) -- 11
Commanders (5-7) -- 11
Bills (6-6) -- 10
Texans (6-6) -- 10
Seahawks (7-5) -- 10
Lions (4-8) -- 10
Jets (7-5) -- 9
49ers (4-8) -- 9
Rams (4-8) -- 8
Colts (6-6) -- 8
Browns (2-10) -- 8
Eagles (5-7) -- 8
Titans (3-9) -- 7
Chiefs (7-5) -- 7
Vikings (8-4) -- 7
Packers (8-4) -- 6
Panthers (12-0) -- 6
Falcons (6-6) -- 6
Bucs (6-6) -- 6
Cowboys (4-8) -- 5
Broncos (10-2) -- 5
Raiders (5-7) -- 5
Dolphins (5-7) -- 3
Browns (2-10) -- 3

Here's a similar article from another source but the rersults and ranking are somewhat similar:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2015/12/18/patsinjuries/uA2hNFvc0TzdNq0m1VthDI/story.html

The most-injured teams in the NFL this year
All 32 NFL teams (with records heading into Week 15). Number on right represents injured days lost.
Ravens (4-9) 165
Giants (6-7) 165
Patriots (11-2) 163
Commanders (6-7) 158
Browns (3-10) 142
Texans (6-7) 138
Jaguars (5-8) 136
Buccaneers (6-7) 136
Bears (5-8) 132
Steelers (8-5) 130
49ers (4-9) 126
Bills (6-7) 119
Jets (8-5) 115
Colts (6-7) 114
Saints (5-8) 110
Chiefs (8-5) 109
Lions (4-9) 107
Eagles (6-7) 103
Raiders (6-7) 102
Chargers (3-10) 100
Seahawks (8-5) 99
Cowboys (4-9) 94
Packers (9-4) 93
Cardinals (11-2) 92
Falcons (6-7) 91
Panthers (13-0) 91
Vikings (8-5) 86
Titans (3-10) 84
Rams (5-8) 81
Broncos (10-3) 67
Bengals (10-3) 67
Dolphins (5-8) 53

Source: Pro-Football-Reference.com

Yeah but those teams didn't loose LANCE DUNBAR.

 

[CATCH17]

Cuz QB's don't win games by themselves and the Cowboys have more problems than backup qb.

In Dallas they clearly do..

Romo had 3 wins and 1 loss as a starter.

His backups were 1-11.

 

[Stash]

Cuz QB's don't win games by themselves and the Cowboys have more problems than backup qb.

And sometimes, they don't win games at all.

 

[Wolfpack]

Weeden helped the Cowboys put up 28 points on the falcons as a backup QB I would not call that a failure the defense did nothing to help in that game

He did, that was his 1st game and they let him play. He was 22-26 on short-med routs and the running game was working the 1st half. Second half was an entirely different ball game. The Atlanta staff adjusted what they were doing and blew Dallas out in the 2nd half. The offense had only 19 plays in the second half and only 2 first downs. J. Jones and their RB ran all over a gassed defense that had been out schemed all day. Atlanta ran 37 plays in the 2nd half alone to Dallas's 19.

After the game the Atlanta staff said in their PC that they changed it up at half time and Dallas didn't do anything. Out coached with out Romo to go 5wr shotgun and try to save the day. That is a familiar story.

 

[Doomsday101]

He did, that was his 1st game and they let him play. He was 22-26 on short-med routs and the running game was working the 1st half. Second half was an entirely different ball game. The Atlanta staff adjusted what they were doing and blew Dallas out in the 2nd half. The offense had only 19 plays in the second half and only 2 first downs. J. Jones and their RB ran all over a gassed defense that had been out schemed all day. Atlanta ran 37 plays in the 2nd half alone to Dallas's 19.

After the game the Atlanta staff said in their PC that they changed it up at half time and Dallas didn't do anything. Out coached with out Romo to go 5wr shotgun and try to save the day. That is a familiar story.

No doubt he is a backup QB I don't expect the offense to run with ease if that were the case Weeden would be a starter. I expect them to put up some points and the GD defense do their damn job. After the game people heaped it on Weeden and excused the defense because idiot Hardy was suspended along with McClain. Fact is most offense in the NFL will struggle with a backup QB but if you can put up 28 you damn well expect to win. By the way part of the defense getting gassed was their own inability to get off the field you know forcing punts or getting turnovers but they failed.

 

[ROUSH8692]

That "freelance" is what allows Romo to dictate to the defense. I remember when Romo watched the D jump in and out of 8 in the box, attempt to change the play while running out of play clock and finally just had to go----------the Defense was dictating to Him. It was tough hearing Kill Kill Kill play after play.

This is where Garretts "indiv players have to win their one-on-one" forces it to become only a Romo (all pro QB) friendly offense--with the ability to freelance and put the indiv players in position to succeed..................without it, it drops down to such a simple offense player on the opposing D are calling out the play flow ahead of the snap.
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You're absolutely right!!!! That defense needs to show what they are doing before the playclock is about to run out!!! Who can we write a letter to? :rollseyes:

 

[Dhragon]

We totally agree with each other. Sadly, no real HC with skins on the wall wants to come to Dallas and put up with the Jerry
circus and Jerry meddling. Parcells came to Dallas with Jerry promising him that he could run the show and shop for the groceries and
then Jerry just had to stick it to Parcells and bring in the player "TO" which poisoned the well. Most well recognized and well skilled HC's won't subject themselves to this type of fishbowl. Oh well, maybe after another decade of failure, Stephen will finally take the reins and let
real "football" people do real football business.

I imagine Stephen thinks he IS a real "football" person. Bet he takes after his daddy on how to run the team. We just have to hope he isn't quite as senile/drunk as Jerry usually is.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Parcells >>>>> Garrett. Just thought I'd throw that in.

Parcells, even with his conservative bent, let the offense open up quite a bit more with Romo in the game as opposed to Bledsoe. He knew what Romo was.

I seriously doubt Romo defied Parcells and went rogue (stretched the boundaries I'm sure, but never broke them). Even after his first game where he threw multiple INTs, Bill didn't get overly scared and make him Weeden. He let him be Romo, with some restraints of course (since he preferred 3 yards and a cloud of dust style offense), but still let him play to his strengths for the most part.

Red seems to let each QB play his first game okay. But any mistakes get the screws tightened more and more. Garrett seems to become paralyzed with worry that the QB will lose the game for them and pretty soon the offense only contains a very short, vanilla, conservative game plan. And then the offense dies and we have another Weeden.

Is it any wonder? Garrett was a career backup QB. All he ever thought about was if he ever got in the game that he would play conservative and NOT screw it up.

And how about knowing what type of team you have in front of you? This ISNT the 90's Cowboys that can simply do the same plays over and over that you cant stop. This is not a run first, tough D type team.

This is a team with a shotty defense, a run game that was nowhere near as potent as 2014, and needs to take some chances. Get up at the beginning of the games would help. But obviously the genius didnt see it that way. He thought he could pound the ball, and the defense would hold. Any fool could see that wasnt going to happen this year.

So it was back to pre 2014 with Garrett's teams getting behind by 10 points in the first quarter of most games.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Thus the offense doesn't work unless Tony makes something happen. No surprise.

water is wet

 

[erod]

Listen up, Brandon. I watched you scramble out of the pocket on 4th down late in a game down by a score, and you had an easy first down in front of you. Then, you took a slide because a cornerback was coming, which ended the game.

I was done with you that moment. Good riddance.

 

[KJJ]

Brandon Weeden: I thought Jerry Jones' comments about me were uncalled for; 'I wanted it to work out so bad'

I agree Jerry's comments about Weeden were completely uncalled for and unfounded.

"Jerry Jones: You won’t see a more gifted passer than Brandon Weeden"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...see-a-more-gifted-passer-than-brandon-weeden/

 

[sbark]

You're absolutely right!!!! That defense needs to show what they are doing before the playclock is about to run out!!! Who can we write a letter to? :rollseyes:

Cannot let the defense dictate ........our offense is simple enough already, even when Romo is in there, let alone when the ability or trust is taken away for the back ups.

I wonder if that is why Moore had some level of effectiveness......they trusted his football IQ to start giving some leeway after watching what they did to Weedon and Cassel

It was one of them that said they were told to checkdown play after play...........so instead of being "coached Up' as Jerry would've thought---they were dumbed down,

 

[CowboyRoy]

Cannot let the defense dictate ........our offense is simple enough already, even when Romo is in there, let alone when the ability or trust is taken away for the back ups.

I wonder if that is why Moore had some level of effectiveness......they trusted his football IQ to start giving some leeway after watching what they did to Weedon and Cassel

It was one of them that said they were told to checkdown play after play...........so instead of being "coached Up' as Jerry would've thought---they were dumbed down,

Dumbed down is the perfect way to put it. And Moore was down by like 30 so what the heck, wing it. And no doubt the D was playing soft and not as hard.

 

[StarBoyz83]

What we missed this year were 1) our 2014 offense, and 2) our 2014 schedule.

As your first point said, our horrible offense played a part. We suffered from not having an offense that allowed us to play with a lead most of the time, forcing the opponent to take more risks which would have led to many more takeaways. Last year, 16 of our defense's 30 takeaways happened when we were leading by 10 points or more. In all other situations in 2014 -- when we weren't leading by at least 10 points -- we only had 14 takeaways. We simply didn't have enough big leads in 2015 to make our opponents take chances.

Cowboys
snaps when leading by 10+ points / takeaways
2014: 376 / 16 (4.3%)
2015: 84 / 3 (3.6%)

all other snaps
2014: 602 / 14 (2.3%)
2015: 851 / 8 (0.9%)

The difference on all the other plays (more "normal" game situations when we weren't up by 10+ points) can almost be completely explained away by the schedule of teams we faced. They didn't turn it over much against us because they didn't turn it over much against anybody. In contrast, the teams we faced last year were turnover machines for the most part.

Games against teams ranked in bottom 10 (and ties) / middle 12 / top 10 in fewest turnovers
2014: 12 / 2 / 2
2015: 4 / 7 / 5

Put this with the defense getting a ton of turnovers and a lot of players playing with hunger for paydays. That's how they got to 12-4 it wasn't that dallas was that great. A ton of things went their way but in the end dallas didn't get it done when they needed to like usual.

 

[Fletch]

lol dont bother bro, these people dont and wont ever get it. Madden can be won with the worst QB in the game.

Hey man, when are we going to get another write up about the upcoming draft, offseason, etc? Always enjoyed your take.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

Don't go away mad Weeden, just go away. We don't care what you have to say its not like your EF Hutton. P.S. You took Jerry and family with you right?

 

[jnday]

Dunbar was a MASSIVE LOSS.

I mean who was supposed to catch all those dump offs the coaching staff wanted Weeden to make?

Dunbar was not a massive loss. He is a player fat an always be upgraded .