Weeden Vs Atlanta analyzed

[jblaze2004]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=dvUrscSs1VM

In weeden we trust. Weeden was scared to let it rip.

 

[Corso]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=dvUrscSs1VM

In weeden we trust. Weeden was scared to let it rip.

How much of his fear stemmed from himself and how much of it came from coaches in his ear?
Straight question demands straight answer.

 

[mattjames2010]

How much of his fear stemmed from himself and how much of it came from coaches in his ear?
Straight question demands straight answer.

What were the coaches saying? "See that open player down the field? Yeah, don't throw there. Throw it to that player covered underneath. Go get them, tiger!"

 

[Corso]

What were the coaches saying? "See that open player down the field? Yeah, don't throw there. Throw it to that player covered underneath. Go get them, tiger!"

Are you suggesting the coaches did not give him any direction going into the game?

 

[Corso]

What were the coaches saying? "See that open player down the field? Yeah, don't throw there. Throw it to that player covered underneath. Go get them, tiger!"

Or are you suggesting that all of Weeden's actions were his own?

 

[StarBoyz83]

How much of his fear stemmed from himself and how much of it came from coaches in his ear?
Straight question demands straight answer.

I for sure feel it's both. Dallas likes to be conservative. That's why dez gets pissed.

 

[Corso]

I for sure feel it's both. Dallas likes to be conservative. That's why dez gets pissed.

It usually takes two to Tango.

 

[mattjames2010]

Are you suggesting the coaches did not give him any direction going into the game?

I'm saying our coaching staff didn't tell him to strictly stick with the underneath throws. That was Weeden and his inability to go through reads. Do you think our coaching staff told Weeden to not throw deep or go for big yards when he had less than 2 minutes left in the game?

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

I for sure feel it's both. Dallas likes to be conservative. That's why dez gets pissed.

i feel so too. weeden's weakness is middle/deep ball and reading coverages and expectations of those routes. the coaches plan was to work away from his weakness to his safety zones. dinks n dunks.


a bit of both. but weeden's weakness is definitely shortening our already short playbook.


maybe they take changes on sunday night and air it out because of the saints D and their schemes. we will see.

 

[Corso]

I'm saying our coaching staff didn't tell him to strictly stick with the underneath throws. That was Weeden and his inability to go through reads. Do you think our coaching staff told Weeden to not throw deep or go for big yards when he had less than 2 minutes left in the game?

I'm going to be honest:
I don't know.
You don't know.

We guess. I do it. You do it.

Nobody knows and anybody who says they do, besides the coaching staff are merely showing their baboon's red.
And after hearing the coaching staff these past few days...

Boy- I hope they are engaging in Gamesmanship...
Because... Mmm...

 

[reddyuta]

I thin that the INT he threw spooked Garrett and he just shut Weeden down furthur,he has to realize that all teams will now take away the underneath stuff and force him to complete some intermediate throws altleast.

 

[Zman5]

All the examples were 2nd and 10yards ore more. Not sure if coaches told him to throw to Dunbar but I'm sure the coaching staff did tell him to stay ahead of the chains and have a manageable 3rd down.

That's the right call for a backup QB in his first start who just threw an INT. Even a starting QB would have take the sure 5 yards in that situation. It's basic situational football.

The issue I have with not throwing deeper routes is on first down. That's the best time to do it since the defense was dead set on stopping the run and not expecting us to pass.

 

[Corso]

I'm saying our coaching staff didn't tell him to strictly stick with the underneath throws. That was Weeden and his inability to go through reads. Do you think our coaching staff told Weeden to not throw deep or go for big yards when he had less than 2 minutes left in the game?

No. I'm actually in the same group-think as you on this (as I usually am). Just checking elbows and you know what else.

 

[mattjames2010]

All the examples were 2nd and 10yards ore more. Not sure if coaches told him to throw to Dunbar but I'm sure the coaching staff did tell him to stay ahead of the chains and have a manageable 3rd down.

That's the right call for a backup QB in his first start who just threw an INT. Even a starting QB would have take the sure 5 yards in that situation. It's basic situational football.

The issue I have with not throwing deeper routes is on first down. That's the best time to do it since the defense was dead set on stopping the run and not expecting us to pass.

This is also another thing, Weeden doesn't need to complete the deep passes. But throwing them will keep the defense honest.

Now, this is not me saying he should just start heaving it, but if he sees a nice matchup and a play he thinks one of our WRs can win one on one, give them a chance to go up for the ball down the field. Maybe it results in a turn over, but it will at least let the defense know the deep ball is a potential threat.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=dvUrscSs1VM

In weeden we trust. Weeden was scared to let it rip.

Hey now! A beer gut Weeden fan film review... I've never seen one of these before. I can almost smell the Cheetos dust...

I think I'm going to get a tape of Troy Aikman's 4TD, near-flawless Super Bowl MVP performance. If I freeze the tape enough, pretend that I was in the huddle and knew the game plan, and pretend that every defender on the field is a complete idiot who is never aware of the ball... then I should be able to show that Troy made the wrong decision on every throw.

 

[mattjames2010]

Hey now! A beer gut Weeden fan film review... I've never seen one of these before. I can almost smell the Cheetos dust...

I think I'm going to get a tape of Troy Aikman's 4TD, near-flawless Super Bowl MVP performance. If I freeze the tape enough, pretend that I was in the huddle and knew the game plan, and pretend that every defender on the field is a complete idiot who is never aware of the ball... then I should be able to show that Troy made the wrong decision on every throw.

It's not like he just showed pictures, the guy was literally letting the plays run in the video and freezing them while he was breaking down the play. And why would you have to be in the huddle? An open receiver is an open receiver. If you are saying he threw to the first read or who the play was designed to go to, that simply tells us Weeden wasn't scanning the field.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I see alot of people "excusing" these bad reads/calls/scared throws and I understand they believe they are legit because Weeden is a backup QB afterall but my theory is for whatever reason, if we play in a losing because of fear our QB may screw it up, then it is a loss either way and that QB is a liability.
i am not buying that Weeden would disregard better reads and opportunities because of whatever. Simply put: Weeden is not that good at reads and accuracy, gets scared easy so he checks off underneath. Yeah he has armstrength but that does no good if it produces nothing

 

[Rack]

The problem with Weeden is he thinks an open receiver is the same thing he saw in college. That and he's afraid of failure so he doesn't push the issue. This isn't new so it's not coaching. He was like this in Cleveland too. He's a horrible qb. Plain and simple.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Where did all this love for Weeded come from? Did we get a huge influx of Browns fans on this forum lately? do not know what ANYONE is seeing in Weeden other than the truth and that is that Weeden is not that good.

 

[loublue22]

I am a little upset