Week 1 vs Jets Notes/Prediction

viman96;4087967 said:
Why not give Romo the same props for YPA?

Um, I was talking about Romo.

Going through that thread on your board and many make it out like Romo is some scrub. Tony's career YPA is 8.04 which is considerably better than Sanchez.

Comparing both their first 2 years.

Sanchez
2009 YPA = 6.71
2010 YPA = 6.49

Romo
2006 YPA = 8.61
2007 YPA = 8.10
This is an absurd comparison for a very simple reason: Mark Sanchez had to come into the NFL and start as a 22-year-old rookie. Tony Romo had the luxury of sitting on his *** for 2.5 years and watching before starting his first game at age 26.5.

It's not even remotely comparable.
 
jimmyxx7;4087990 said:
Um, I was talking about Romo.

This is an absurd comparison for a very simple reason: Mark Sanchez had to come into the NFL and start as a 22-year-old rookie. Tony Romo had the luxury of sitting on his *** for 2.5 years and watching before starting his first game at age 26.5.

It's not even remotely comparable.

Sanchez is awful; c'mon guys he is nowhere near Romo's level. Plain and simple.
 
jimmyxx7;4087958 said:
Well, he does throw a fair number of picks. But then again, he also makes a lot of plays with a high YPA.

If you're speaking of Romo, he doesn't throw that many picks aside from an unusually bad 2010 where he wound up injured anyway. He has thrown picks at inopportune times, but all QBs have done that.

Perhaps you should base your opinion on your own knowledge of the game, and the players, instead of watching ESPN highlight reels and basing your opinion on what the ******bag talking heads are saying.
 
jimmyxx7;4087990 said:
Um, I was talking about Romo.

This is an absurd comparison for a very simple reason: Mark Sanchez had to come into the NFL and start as a 22-year-old rookie. Tony Romo had the luxury of sitting on his *** for 2.5 years and watching before starting his first game at age 26.5.

It's not even remotely comparable.

How many UDFA's you know have ever started QB their rookie season? Romo had a very difficult path to becoming the starting QB in Dallas so do not make it sound like he had it made sitting on the bench. Romo did not have the luxury of getting first team reps and coaching like Sanchez. I doubt you thought of it from that perspective.

What is absurd is many on that board is not acknowledging Romo is a really good QB. How about I compare Romo to Bledsoe? Drew was the starting QB in Dallas before Romo took over. Drew's YPA for 2006 was 6.89 and his career YPA is 6.64. So you think it was just dumb luck Romo has much better numbers then Drew?
 
Don Corleone;4087995 said:
If you're speaking of Romo, he doesn't throw that many picks aside from an unusually bad 2010 where he wound up injured anyway. He has thrown picks at inopportune times, but all QBs have done that.

Threw 19 picks in 2007, too. He's not on Eli Manning's level, but he throws his fair share of picks. There are plays to be made when Romo is throwing the football, both for the offense and the defense.
 
jimmyxx7;4088003 said:
Threw 19 picks in 2007, too. He's not on Eli Manning's level, but he throws his fair share of picks. There are plays to be made when Romo is throwing the football, both for the offense and the defense.

He's right behind Drew Brees and Peyton Manning among active players in terms of lowest INT%
 
viman96;4088002 said:
How many UDFA's you know have ever started QB their rookie season?

But why was he a UDFA in the first place? Because he wasn't that good. He needed the developmental time. Now to his credit, he's become a very good quarterback since he went undrafted in 2003, but please don't compare the stats of a guy who sat and watched for two-and-a-half years with those of a guy who had to play right away. It's not even remotely fair.

Romo had a very difficult path to becoming the starting QB in Dallas so do not make it sound like he had it made sitting on the bench.
This is not a debatable point. It's been proved a hundred times over: quarterbacks who can sit and watch for a year or two tend to have drastically better NFL debuts than those that are forced to start right away.

What is absurd is many on that board is not acknowledging Romo is a really good QB.
He's very good. Elite? Probably not but certainly top 10. He's in the 7-10 slots.
 
Sanchez is a fine quarterback; however, unless he's improved drastically since last season, Romo is the superior player.
 
ScipioCowboy;4088013 said:
Sanchez is a fine quarterback; however, unless he's improved drastically since last season, Romo is the superior player.

Well, I don't think too many people are doubting that right now.
 
viman96;4087921 said:
Being a little thin skinned? I already said twice it was an old vid. Not once did I degrade Revis.
ah i just saw the other posts. my fault.
 
jimmyxx7;4088011 said:
But why was he a UDFA in the first place? Because he wasn't that good. He needed the developmental time.

It wasn't that he wasn't good. He was a 3x All-American, the player of the year (Walter Payton award winner) in Div I-AA his senior year. He reportedly had the highest velocity among quarterbacks at the combine. He's always had a lightning fast release.

Sure he had a lot to learn, but he wasn't a fifth overall pick from a national championship contender featuring 11 players drafted in the 2009 NFL draft.

Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, and Matt Ryan all started as rookies, and all compare much more favorably to Romo than Sanchez. Sanchez just isn't very good.
 
jimmyxx7;4087899 said:
Wow, all those scrubs, and they still scored the second-most points of any team in cowboy history.

So how many points will they score this year with all the improvements? 600?

And we had a hair short of 400 points last year with a back-up QB who gave way to a third-stringer by season's end. We lost Dez, we lost Miles at one point and were running a broke down feature back who had it in his head that plowing into the right side of the dilapidated offensive line was how the position was supposed to be played.

Even if our line plays average, it'll be an improvement over a 400 point season. 500 is by no means out of the question.
 
ScipioCowboy;4088013 said:
Sanchez is a fine quarterback; however, unless he's improved drastically since last season, Romo is the superior player.
Romo is the superior QB right now. But I think Sanchez is less relied upon to win games than Romo is / will be.
 
SaltwaterServr;4088025 said:
And we had a hair short of 400 points last year with a back-up QB who gave way to a third-stringer by season's end. We lost Dez, we lost Miles at one point and were running a broke down feature back who had it in his head that plowing into the right side of the dilapidated offensive line was how the position was supposed to be played.

...and who believed a five yard gain was cause to rip off his helmet and pound his chest in personal foul-inducing celebration.
 
jimmyxx7;4088011 said:
Now to his credit, he's become a very good quarterback since he went undrafted in 2003, but please don't compare the stats of a guy who sat and watched for two-and-a-half years with those of a guy who had to play right away. It's not even remotely fair.

Yes, all UDFA quarterbacks have that luxury while poor little first round draft picks get the millions and have to start on day 1. UDFA with the luxury of sitting back and watching? How about the stress of knowing you could be cut on any given day? You call that a luxury???
 

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