Week 5 Primer...The Kansas City Chiefs

[casmith07]

bump...love the history! This should be fun to watch with the old uniforms. We play pretty good in those. Are we wearing home Blues with white shoulders or wearing whites with blue shoulders for the first time since the 60s?

 

[Beast_from_East]

If we lose to the freaking Cheifs..........aint no coming back from a loss like that.

Game over fellas, game over if we lose to an O fer team.

 

[zrinkill]

Isn't Haley the guy Parcells hit?

 

[Doomsday101]

This may come as good news to fans around town: The Chiefs will have a completely different-looking team for Sunday’s game against the Cowboys at Arrowhead Stadium.

This will be an AFL Legacy Game, meaning the Chiefs will wear uniforms like the ones donned by the 1962 Dallas Texans. The uniforms will feature helmets with gray facemasks and a Texas-shaped decal with a gold star showing the location of the city of Dallas.

Looking for a good omen for the Chiefs? They’ve never lost to Dallas at Arrowhead Stadium (OK, they are only 2-0 all time against Dallas at Arrowhead).

How did the Texans fare against the Cowboys? Let Chiefs director of public relations Bob Moore answer that.

“(It) brings up what has been called in the history books, ‘the game that never was’ and we’re putting together a story about the long-ago rivalry of the Texans & Cowboys,” Moore wrote in an e-mail.

Expect to hear more about the Texans and Cowboys — and the fact the teams never played — this week.

 

[Doomsday101]

So the Dallas Cowboys will face the Dallas Texans this weekend.

 

[superpunk]

well when you look at it, the signs are there.

In 06 when we lost to the saints sean payton got all the credit for knowing how to beat us....but if you listened close and paid attention the real credit might have gone to Gary Gibbs.

Great minds think alike. I was just thinking we have reached Wade Phillips "blueprint" territory.

 

[Hostile]

Todd Haley >> any cowboys coach + jerry combined.

Another loss would hurt but vindication over jerry would be priceless (and just maybe get a coach or two fired).

That is bitterness talking. Pure nonsense.

 

[poke]

Since Hostile already had a thread with Chiefs info started I thought I would just add this to it.



Here Are The Chiefs
Josh Ellis - Email
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
October 6, 2009 4:19 PM



IRVING, Texas - Rumor has it a coin flip decided whether the Cowboys or Texans of the former American Football League would take over hegemony of Dallas, the football-sated city a short drive to the east.
With the competition, neither team could make a profit, though both wanted to stay. In the end, it was Dallas oilman Lamar Hunt moving his operation, the AFL's flagship team, northward to Kansas City and renaming them the Chiefs. Clint Murchison Jr.'s Cowboys stayed in Dallas. Finally, 46 years after they left, the Texans will meet the Cowboys on the field as the NFL honors its former rival league in the 50th anniversary of the AFL's founding.
What's Up?
While things may seem bleak in Cowboys America, coming off a frustrating loss in Denver that sank the team to 2-2, it's even worse right now for Kansas City. New GM Scott Pioli and new coach Todd Haley inherited a bad team, tied for the second-worst record in the league last year, and immediately commenced to rebuilding. They're shaping a 3-4 defense and brought in a new quarterback, Matt Cassel, but progress has been slow.
While the Chiefs have yet to post a win under the new regime, they should have a bit of an advantage in this week's noon (CDT) game at Arrowhead Stadium. Kansas City's coaching staff includes six former Cowboys contributors who should know a thing or two about the personnel they're facing. Going for the second straight week into an energetic and hostile AFC West stadium, the Cowboys will need to be at their best.
Statistical View

• After gashing the Cowboys for 143 yards and three touchdowns in his lone game against them in 2005, KC running back Larry Johnson has slowed considerably. He's averaging just 2.6 yards on 72 carries this year.
• Though he lacks the weapons he had last season in New England, Cassel can still make some plays. He's got five touchdown passes in three starts. He also has 58 yards rushing on 11 carries this year.
• No. 1 receiver Dwayne Bowe has been limited a bit with hamstring trouble, but still has 10 catches and two touchdowns. Second and third options Mark Bradley and Bobby Wade also have 10 catches apiece, with 213 yards and three scores between them.
• The new-look Chiefs defense is ranked 28th in yards and points allowed, giving up 28 points and 379 yards a game. They've allowed 250.5 yards per game through the air and averaged 128.5 yards allowed on the ground.

Chalk Talk Given the possibility of injuries, the Cowboys need to be mistake free this week. The Chiefs have looked like a bad team so far, but the Cowboys won't seem so special either if they are without their top receiver Roy Williams (ribs), playmaking safety Gerald Sensabaugh (thumb), most explosive running back Felix Jones (knee), offensive line anchor Andre Gurode (knee), and have Marion Barber (quad) and Jay Ratliff (back) banged up as well.
With Bowe hobbled the Chiefs lack a real playmaker on offense. That may allow the Cowboys to be aggressive in their defensive play calling. Offensively, the Cowboys will have to run the ball better than they did against Denver, a key to winning on the road.
Connections
Haley was Bill Parcells' wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator in Dallas from 2004-06 . . . Chiefs assistant head coach Maurice Carthon (offensive coordinator/running backs 2003-04), defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast (defensive assistant/defensive backs 1996-2002), linebackers coach Gary Gibbs (linebackers 2002-05) and special teams coach Steve Hoffman (kickers 1989-2004) have all served on the Cowboys staff in the past. Wide receivers coach Dedric Ward concluded his playing career with the Cowboys in 2004, catching one pass in eight appearances . . . Chiefs wideout Terrance Copper (2004-05) and tight end Sean Ryan (2004-05) both started their careers with the Cowboys . . . Cowboys backup nose tackle Junior Siavii was a second-round pick of the Chiefs in 2004, staying there through training camp of 2006 . . . Linebacker Steve Octavien signed with Kansas City as an undrafted free agent in 2008, playing in all four preseason games before being waived/injured before the regular season.
Miscellaneous
Former Cowboys general manager Tex Schramm and Hunt began meeting secretly in 1966 to negotiate the merger between the NFL and AFL . . . During their three years in Dallas, the Texans had a 15-6 record and beat the Houston Oilers in the league's 1962 championship game . . . The winner of games between the Cowboys and Chiefs take over possession of the "Preston Road Trophy," which Hunt created for the series in 1998, named for the area of Dallas where Jerry and Gene Jones reside, as does Hunt's widow Norma . . . The Cowboys are 5-3 all-time against the Chiefs, first meeting in 1970 with a 27-16 Cowboys win.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=2BBD9034-08A7-C142-76F0***869251E79

 

[SaltwaterServr]

That is bitterness talking. Pure nonsense.

Agreed.

I want no coach who files a lawsuit against McDonalds seeking $2 million+ in damages for finding a dead mouse on the top of a salad his wife bought. Not mixed in, on top of.

The players openly disrespected him about it to the point that T-New and Co. brought him a salad on a flight home with little plastic mice in it. DMN (I think it was them, might have been a DC.com blogger) reported that Haley was furious.

 

[chinch]

this makes you feel better somehow right?

how Jerry's DYSFUNCTION allowed all this to transpire to their coaches right?

so pathetic there is nothing left to do but

:laugh2:

Agreed.

I want no coach who files a lawsuit against McDonalds seeking $2 million+ in damages for finding a dead mouse on the top of a salad his wife bought. Not mixed in, on top of.

The players openly disrespected him about it to the point that T-New and Co. brought him a salad on a flight home with little plastic mice in it. DMN (I think it was them, might have been a DC.com blogger) reported that Haley was furious.

 

[LucaBrasi]

I hate to say this, but leaving town saturday and returning monday might be a good thing.

I think this has all the setup in the world for us to get sucker punched by Todd Haley. And I believe in Karma and Jerry Publically wronged and undermined Haley in 06.

and I just have this terrible feeling.

I have the exact same feeling

 

[Screw The Hall]

Haley was riding Owens early in 06. It got out that owens was sleeping in meetings and the fact that he sat on the sideline the whole camp didnt go over well with that staff....but Jerry ok'd all of it.

then finally owens came out to practice about 20 minutes late and Haley had enough of the guy and let him have it.

Owens ran to jerry and told him we was sick and was in the john and Jerry went and defended owens on his radio show and then when it was still getting out that owens was sleeping in meetings etc...jerry vowed to fire the coach who was the rat all in the name of trying to appease a rat himself.

Haley must hate Jerry Jones. I would. And I imagine many of those guys just giggled at Jerry's take on the x's and o's.

this is haley's chance to really stick it to him. They are 0-4, at home, they will have maybe their last big emotional home game of the year, the throwbacks will add a little....

I just think we are going to lose this game in some crazy way. I Have a bad feeling haley is going to find a way to attack watkins and hamlin repeatedly.

and this little nugget.

Look at their staff, all people who have been through here and know us well or who have done a good job coaching against us.

Todd Haley
Maurice Carthon
Clancey Pendergast
Gary Gibbs
steve hoffman

and even....dedric ward coaching the wr.

I think the whole thing bottoms out sunday at kc.

I think we are going to win it but be very dissatisfied with how. I agree with you though it does feel like an ambush waiting to happen. I think we'll fight through it in very ugly fashion.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Key to this game: Our O-line vs the Chiefs' blitz packages, because they are going to blitz us like crazy. Remember that Clancy Pendergast, the Chiefs D-Coordinator was on the Cardinals staff last year when they turned our O-line into a turnstyle by blitzing from all angles.

Our Defense should have a good day against their offense with Dwayne Bowe still hobbled and a pedestrian running game.

 

[Gaede]

I don't feel good about this one either.

Good thing I have thanksgiving this weekend and will have plenty to be happy about.

 

[Hostile]

Bumping this back for the folks who come in only on the weekends.

 

[CF74]

Key to this game: Our O-line vs the Chiefs' blitz packages, because they are going to blitz us like crazy. Remember that Clancy Pendergast, the Chiefs D-Coordinator was on the Cardinals staff last year when they turned our O-line into a turnstyle by blitzing from all angles.

Our Defense should have a good day against their offense with Dwayne Bowe still hobbled and a pedestrian running game.

You just inspired me to figure out how to track down their sack records for the year, they have 1 sack...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/stats/

 

[Nav22]

Hos, your NFL knowledge is downright scary. Thanks for spooking me a bit with these posts. Very interesting stuff.

 

[Hostile]

Hos, your NFL knowledge is downright scary. Thanks for spooking me a bit with these posts. Very interesting stuff.

Thank you. I love football. I think the Falcons Primer is going to be kind of dull in comparison to this one which I find fascinating because of Hunt.

 

[Kevinicus]

You just inspired me to figure out how to track down their sack records for the year, they have 1 sack...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/stats/

That is for week 1. They actually have 5 sacks which is a major improvement over last year...they're still near the bottom of the league though.

 

[windward]

Haley was riding Owens early in 06. It got out that owens was sleeping in meetings and the fact that he sat on the sideline the whole camp didnt go over well with that staff....but Jerry ok'd all of it.

then finally owens came out to practice about 20 minutes late and Haley had enough of the guy and let him have it.

Owens ran to jerry and told him we was sick and was in the john and Jerry went and defended owens on his radio show and then when it was still getting out that owens was sleeping in meetings etc...jerry vowed to fire the coach who was the rat all in the name of trying to appease a rat himself.

Haley must hate Jerry Jones. I would. And I imagine many of those guys just giggled at Jerry's take on the x's and o's.

this is haley's chance to really stick it to him. They are 0-4, at home, they will have maybe their last big emotional home game of the year, the throwbacks will add a little....

I just think we are going to lose this game in some crazy way. I Have a bad feeling haley is going to find a way to attack watkins and hamlin repeatedly.

and this little nugget.

Look at their staff, all people who have been through here and know us well or who have done a good job coaching against us.

Todd Haley
Maurice Carthon
Clancey Pendergast
Gary Gibbs
steve hoffman

and even....dedric ward coaching the wr.

I think the whole thing bottoms out sunday at kc.

I think you're completely wrong.

And Haley should not have been leaking that to the media. It's highly unprofessional and should be grounds for termination.