Werder: Run game was not the problem last season, Cowboys ran the football 45%

Captain-Crash

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well, when mike wants to run the ball he has to send in two run plays because ego boy will change to a pass, and he will have to do the same when he wants to pass the ball. Pea brain dak is easily fooled.
 

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I thought at the time it stank of Garrett, but then why didn't Moore bring play action back when Garrett was gone?

I guess if we're going to believe McCarthy, he was putting pressure on Moore to run and run and run again. I like running too, but the play action was just working. And I think it made the run game work better too. You gotta stay on the field to grind down the opposing defense.

I remember just some awful games that season where they just kept running and running and running on 1st down despite getting no production out of it.

All in all, the McCarthy + Moore team up ended up a big disappointment for me. Each brought so much, and I thought it would be great to combine the two. Instead, Moore morphed into Garrett, while McCarthy seemed to pull a "don't blame me, not my offense", like he's just biding his time until Moore fails.

The real worry is that the 4 Stick Routes staple of Garrett and Moore may have been dictated by their lack of confidence that Dak could handle more, or at least could do so reliably.
The other problem with Dak is that now that he's cut way down on running, a big part of his game is gone. He's not Dan Fouts or Dan Marino. Dak has always been up and down, but he's mainly been down since the ankle injury. Not the same QB.
it could be a simple as Dak wanting to be in shotgun, and the OC allowing. Play action kinda requires under center, so maybe MM wanted the OC to just make it happen, but the OC didn't want to go against the QB's wishes. If we're under center more next season, it may be telling.
 

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I suppose it's the adage that you pound the middle to earn the right to run out wide. Tire the Defense and allow spaces to develop outside later on in the game....though yes a bit of mixing it up (like the successful Dak scrambles) and throwing on 1st down would benefit all round.
Dumb adage. Take what the defense is giving up! If they have too many guys inside the tackles run outside, if they have too many guys outside the tackles run inside! Simple!
 

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Dumb adage. Take what the defense is giving up! If they have too many guys inside the tackles run outside, if they have too many guys outside the tackles run inside! Simple!
Better footballing brains than yourself have used that strategy for years....the game is more than see gap, run gap, there's also a strategic approach to tire the interior to establish gaps later on. Not every run, yep you mix it up, and yes you shouldnt be as prescriptive as to run every 1st down, but there is a plan.
 

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When a HC has to save a QB from himself then the issue isn;t the running game or the recently dismissed OC but.....the QB!!!!!!
Dak ran the #1 scoring offense in the NFL. He also was throwing for 300 yard and 5 TD's while your boy Hebert was choking in the 2nd half against the Jags in the first round. Ironically the OC got fired in SD as well and they hired the guy that we fired over here. LOL

So are you saying Hebert is the problem over there and not the OC? :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Is the HC over in San Diego saving Herbert? :lmao::lmao::lmao2:

Its just too easy making a complete mockery out of your laughable troll comments.
 

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It's not the percentage you run in the year. It's at what point. Some games we needed to run more and we didn't. Situational running versus seasonal average for me.
 

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so fat mike is just running his mouth about running more, and it wasn't dak fault he threw more ints In fewer games than anybody else in the NFL.
what a joke team. Keep blaming others fat mike and jerry. smh
Yes Fat Mike is running his mouth. The Cowboys were 6th in rushing attempts in the NFL while being 19th in passing attempts.

So his facts are off. The Cowboys dont need to run more, then need to run it better. They need to run it less on first down and not feature and over the hill, slow RB like Zeke.

He had to come up with something in order to get rid of Moore so he could call plays. Now I am actually glad to see Moore gone, but not sure MM calling plays is going to get it done he is talking about running more with Zeke. If zeke remains here, then we know the guy is nothing short of completely stupid and delusional.

Are you in agreement that we need to run Zeke more and become a more Zeke run dominant team?
 

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It's not the percentage you run in the year. It's at what point. Some games we needed to run more and we didn't. Situational running versus seasonal average for me.
Need to run less on first down and pass more. Many would call that pass happy and have.
 

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it could be a simple as Dak wanting to be in shotgun, and the OC allowing. Play action kinda requires under center, so maybe MM wanted the OC to just make it happen, but the OC didn't want to go against the QB's wishes. If we're under center more next season, it may be telling.
I hate shotgun on 1st down. Maybe if you see something in the personnel package you switch to it, but run should be an option on 1st down.
 

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Dak ran the #1 scoring offense in the NFL. He also was throwing for 300 yard and 5 TD's while your boy Hebert was choking in the 2nd half against the Jags in the first round. Ironically the OC got fired in SD as well and they hired the guy that we fired over here. LOL

So are you saying Hebert is the problem over there and not the OC? :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Is the HC over in San Diego saving Herbert? :lmao::lmao::lmao2:

Its just too easy making a complete mockery out of your laughable troll comments.
Is this your thing? Someone references another QB when the subject of Dak comes up and automatically you assign that QB as that member's 'boy'? If anyone has a boy it's Dak and clearly, you are it.
 

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Is this your thing? Someone references another QB when the subject of Dak comes up and automatically you assign that QB as that member's 'boy'? If anyone has a boy it's Dak and clearly, you are it.
Dak is the QB of the Cowboys so to an extent he's our boy. Although you being an Eagles fan that definitely doesn't apply.

I just enjoy pointing out all the flaws and contradictions in your laughable comments. Its easy to do as you make little sense at all.

According to you, stats are for losers and team success is all that matters. According to you, Herbert is "a real QB".

Just wanted to point out that Hebert has had less success than Dak. Once again, you have egg on your face.
 

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The fan interviewed Lambordi this morning he talked about this and had the same point some here have said "KM had no flow to his play calling, it was more like calling a Madden game than staying in the flow of a real game going on" lol he called KM Joystick. I agree his plays didnt seem to have a rhyme nor reason for the situation it was just a bunch of plays that got called with no real attack startegy.
 

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It's not the percentage you run in the year. It's at what point. Some games we needed to run more and we didn't. Situational running versus seasonal average for me.

Such a simple concept and so frequently not grasped. Football isn't about checking boxes or tallying up a certain number of this or that. If we ran 10 times and passed 50 and win the game I'm happy. If we ran 50 and passed 10 I'm happy. My biggest criticism of Moore was that he simply lacked that feel of when to do what. He relied too heavily on down and distance "formulas" which is an affliction I believe he inherited from Garrett and that is why the offense could look so great against chumps and struggle so badly against better defenses. Smarter DCs could decipher the formula and be standing right there to catch your line drive to use a baseball analogy. I have long been on record that I think the games where the offense dominated it was because of the dominant Jimmy's and Joes not the clever X's and O's. Too many people saw Zeke or TP shake off defenders in the backfield and turn nothing into something or saw Dak shake off a guy trying to sack him and hit a deep big play and credit that to "Kellen Moore's offense." I think those people are wrong.

Again not saying Moore "sucks" or is "clueless" or any of that. He was a damn good OC. I just think the talent made him look better than he was. Fortunately for him, the Chargers have pretty good talent too so I expect him to do well there too. But unless and until he gets a better feel for the game and gets away from "formula football" his offense will continue to get squashed by better defenses. There's a reason why they're called "better defenses."
 

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clearly Ed wasn't watching situational downs and down the stretch. Mike is right. WHEN to run the ball matters. Mike mentioned this.
Uhh…Mike is the head coach. He can override any play call if it’s problematic. This excuse would fly if he said I had to override the OC multiple times. But if he let it go and didn’t override it then he’s at fault either way.
 
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