Werder: Run game was not the problem last season, Cowboys ran the football 45%

[T-RO]

red zone...pass pass pass FG

Dallas scored TDs 71.4% of the time they reached the red zone. Cowboys Red Zone offense was #1 in the NFL.

There are so many Kellen Moore myths around here that aren't just a little wrong, they are wildly wrong.

 

[DandyDon52]

Lastly, having healthy explosive RBs carrying the ball will help add more to the run game

they will probably have the same RB's

 

[DandyDon52]

The disconnect I believe is not the % of run pass. It’s when to run and when to pass. When to take shots when not to take shots. Everyone keeps harping on mccarthys “I wanna run the damn ball” comment but to me it’s just him speaking to a bigger issue about getting better situationally.

In the divisional game it was 6-6 with 1:30 left in the half. We were on their 20. 2&2. We get the ball at halftime- dak throws a terrible interception that completely changes the game. It’s those little things like that that McCarthy is trying to guard against. Down and distance, game situations and saving dak from himself.

true, but we wont know if MM will be any different or better till the season starts.

 

[Captain-Crash]

the problem was the idiot quarterback knowing when to change to the run and out of the run. smh

 

[Big_D]

The number of carries at the end of the season is not the issue.

 

[CTcowboy203]

true, but we wont know if MM will be any different or better till the season starts.

No but that’s the thought process. Not suggest it works or doesn’t just responding to werder commenting on the %

 

[blueblood70]

Yeah,
Belicheck teams don't have his defensive background influence right?
Reids or Peytons offensive influence on their teams?
McVeys offensive input?

So while Moore was here and engineering the offense where was this strong McCarthy influence since Quinn had the dee and Boness had specials....?

Durrrr....
You're clueless cuz it took him 3 years just to learn Kellens so-called predictable offense and then if he was so clearly the man in charge and clearly witnessing Kellen struggle with playcalling against SF then why not elbow the kid outta the way and take charge?
Huh?
You don't know do you?
I do cuz Papa Jerry is his daddy and he stealing a check collecting puppet coach retirement checks.

When he falls on his face cuz of this scrub QB, I just wanted to be the first to warn you.

Go sit down

wrong but ill sit you down son, you need to go elsewhere to fandom. You are nothing but a hater troll and i see your eagle green showing..buh bye!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Simple. The part I quoted. You suggested the Cowboys staff caused "permanent damage" by having him play.

You have zero grounds to say this, and Zeke himself contradicts you. Here's Elliott's own words:

"But actually probably a month of two into the offseason, a month or two getting back into work, and I'll say probably by the time OTAs hit, I was back 100,"​

​

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...y-burst-fully-healthy-to-start-training-camp/

Why are you trying so hard to pick a fight? Clearly...the stats are facts and that statement is an opinion...based on them.

And of course players never lie about their medical status.

 

[kskboys]

Dallas scored TDs 71.4% of the time they reached the red zone. Cowboys Red Zone offense was #1 in the NFL.

There are so many Kellen Moore myths around here that aren't just a little wrong, they are wildly wrong.

Unless you watch every second of every game. Then you would've seen what I am referring to.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

This is a bit confusing coz something isn't adding up.........timing, sequence, play design??????

I mean MM says Kellen wanted to light up the scoreboard, he wanna rub the ball........

I think its more to do with getting cute. We'd move the ball well and then start getting cute, started doing reverses with Pollard or passed the ball 3 straight times and settle for field goals.

 

[75boyz]

wrong but ill sit you down son, you need to go elsewhere to fandom. You are nothing but a hater troll and i see your eagle green showing..buh bye!

Yeah,
I've learned and forgotten more football than your limited pea brain capacity could ever comprehend.

Class dismissed, dunce cap.

 

[xwalker]

Funny. Run play designs sure worked when Pollard had the rock. I guess KM just doesn't know how to call plays for Zeke.

5.5 YPC in '21
5.2 YPC in '22

Pollard averaged 3.6 ypc before the injury in the Niners game...

 

[CowboyFrog]

To me it has more to do with HOW your run and pass plays set each other up, again KM didnt seem to have a reason for the plays he ran, if we were the better team we scored a ton if it was even we did ok but when the other team had a good front he didnt know how to exploit anything they were doing....its not about the % your run and pass its about what you can make the defense do to stop one that opens up the other....

 

[glimmerman]

What am I making up? Which of the items on this list are made up?

1) Zeke was averaging > 5ypc before injuring his knee in 2021
2) Zeke played with a huge brace on that knee for 12 games in 2021 and averaged 1.5 ypc less in those games than he had been prior to the injury.
3) Zeke averaged 4.1 ypc before injuring his knee in 2022
4) Zeke played with a huge brace on that knee for 8 games in 2022 and averaged a full yard per carry less in those games than he had been prior to the injury.
5) Zeke looked even worse after the 2022 injury than he did after the 2021 injury.

Let me know which of these is "made up."

Obviously I can only conjecture that the knee was damaged more while playing through that injury in 2021 but deductive reasoning and logic would indicate that knee injuries don't get better with medical treatment and/or rest. That injury that year was a 6-8 week injury. Keeping him on the field through that was a horrible idea. I said it THEN and I am not going to change my stance now. I don't need to "defend" anybody. Zeke himself was complicit in wanting to keep play though he was clearly hurt. So he gets at least some of the blame for his own demise. But I am on record that I will never blame a player for wanting to play.. It should fall to smarter people to tell him not to. The Cowboys failed Ezekiel Elliott in that deal. And in doing so they failed themselves.. because IMHO they shortened his career and cost themselves games now and in the future by turning a dominant player into a gimped up JAG that they were paying 12 million bucks a year.

Stoopid
Stoopid
Stoopid

This is why JJ wants to keep him another year. Fully healed and we now what he can do. Maybe not like his first couple of years but he will be better than last year for sure..

 

[buybuydandavis]

All of that. KM called a lot of 1st down runs that was up the middle or a zone right or left...easy for a defense to read.
...
Lastly, having healthy explosive RBs carrying the ball will help add more to the run game. Play action should really help the open up the passing game.

Weird that Moore got so predictable on 1st down when he started his career as an OC with 3 or 4 games tearing up the league with 70% play action on 1st down.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

If a running play worked , Kellen would not call it again and never get into a rhythm. Just guessing that MM will add an identity to our running game.

 

[kskboys]

Weird that Moore got so predictable on 1st down when he started his career as an OC with 3 or 4 games tearing up the league with 70% play action on 1st down.

That made zero sense as to why he quit.

 

[buybuydandavis]

That made zero sense as to why he quit.

I thought at the time it stank of Garrett, but then why didn't Moore bring play action back when Garrett was gone?

I guess if we're going to believe McCarthy, he was putting pressure on Moore to run and run and run again. I like running too, but the play action was just working. And I think it made the run game work better too. You gotta stay on the field to grind down the opposing defense.

I remember just some awful games that season where they just kept running and running and running on 1st down despite getting no production out of it.

All in all, the McCarthy + Moore team up ended up a big disappointment for me. Each brought so much, and I thought it would be great to combine the two. Instead, Moore morphed into Garrett, while McCarthy seemed to pull a "don't blame me, not my offense", like he's just biding his time until Moore fails.

The real worry is that the 4 Stick Routes staple of Garrett and Moore may have been dictated by their lack of confidence that Dak could handle more, or at least could do so reliably.
The other problem with Dak is that now that he's cut way down on running, a big part of his game is gone. He's not Dan Fouts or Dan Marino. Dak has always been up and down, but he's mainly been down since the ankle injury. Not the same QB.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Ed Werder needs to retire.

45% is a low number Ed.
And also not just low but it was how the run plays were called as well.
I am extremely glad Moore is gone.

Now u have McCarthy. Can't wait to see how that works out for u...

 

[jazzcat22]

Now u have McCarthy. Can't wait to see how that works out for u...

Better than Moore, I am sure.
I guess you are not a team fan then the way you said ... you ...