We're not the only ones being cautious...

[Bob Sacamano]

That's my point, the Commanders have only been at it for six years. To me, that is not nearly long enough to say it doesn't work already. Especially since only two of those years have been under a competent HC, in which there has been an obvious improvement.

keep holding out hope that this process finally works for the Skins

 

[superpunk]

That's my point, the Commanders have only been at it for six years. To me, that is not nearly long enough to say it doesn't work already. Especially since only two of those years have been under a competent HC, in which there has been an obvious improvement.

Get off the Skins for a second. Find me any example, from any team, where buying up free agents has led to big success, super bowl victories, dynasties. There is only one model for that - drafting well, and plugging in FAs for holes. Everything else has met failure. I already explained this.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Get off the Skins for a second. Find me any example, from any team, where buying up free agents has led to big success, super bowl victories, dynasties. There is only one model for that - drafting well, and plugging in FAs for holes. Everything else has met failure. I already explained this.....

is it me, or does this guy want the Skins to succeed? I mean, he keeps telling us to wait and see

 

[Eddie]

I don't consider myself a "Chicken Little", but the sky hasn't exactly been all that blue the last eight or nine years has it?

My thoughts exactly.

The Skins did more in one year than we did in the past ten. Yet, Danny Snyder is the moron.

What ever happened to our famous rallying cry, "At least we're not the Bengals."

Funny stuff. Are we looking at another 8-8, 9-7 season while missing the playoffs???

 

[BlueWave]

Get off the Skins for a second. Find me any example, from any team, where buying up free agents has led to big success, super bowl victories, dynasties. There is only one model for that - drafting well, and plugging in FAs for holes. Everything else has met failure. I already explained this.....

The Cowboys of the nineties. Go back and look at the amount of money spent by Jones, Johnson and company in the late 80's when they fiorst bought the team. Granted it was before the salary cap, but it even rode over into the salary cap era. But no one has had the financial approach the Commanders have taken, since the implementation of the salary cap, though the 49ers of the ninties were close, and won it all. That has only been since Snyder has been there and four of those six years have been with incompetent coaching.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

My thoughts exactly.

The Skins did more in one year than we did in the past ten. Yet, Danny Snyder is the moron.

What ever happened to our famous rallying cry, "At least we're not the Bengals."

Funny stuff. Are we looking at another 8-8, 9-7 season while missing the playoffs???

one...playoff win, I know we haven't done that in awhile, but I hardly call that means to start envying the Skins

 

[BlueWave]

one...playoff win, I know we haven't done that in awhile, but I hardly call that means to start envying the Skins

Got to start somewhere. That's one playoff win and a sweep of the Cowboys.

 

[Eddie]

one...playoff win, I know we haven't done that in awhile, but I hardly call that means to start envying the Skins

I don't know. Sure sounds like alot of Skins envy around here lately.

The Danny bashing is more out of jealousy than anything else.

We seem to be jealous that the other kid on the block is getting all the toys.

It is what it is.

 

[superpunk]

The Cowboys of the nineties. Go back and look at the amount of money spent by Jones, Johnson and company in the late 80's when they fiorst bought the team. Granted it was before the salary cap, but it even rode over into the salary cap era.

We spent that money on OUR players, and a few nice free agents - and the crux? No salary cap.

But no one has had the financial approach the Commanders have taken, since the implementation of the salary cap, though the 49ers of the ninties were close, and won it all. That has only been since Snyder has been there and four of those six years have been with incompetent coaching.

Exactly. Noone. Ever. It has not worked. Teams have shown how to get it done. The Pats, Steelers, Colts, Eagles are all models of success. The Skins way does not work. Once it does, all this *****ing and moaning (not necessarily by you) will have some relevance, and reality. Until then, it does not.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Got to start somewhere. That's one playoff win and a sweep of the Cowboys.

and which goes against your whole philosophy of spending alot of money in free agency

jumping back and forth on both issues, although unintentionally because you don't have a very strong point, isn't working

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't know. Sure sounds like alot of Skins envy around here lately.

The Danny bashing is more out of jealousy than anything else.

We seem to be jealous that the other kid on the block is getting all the toys.

It is what it is.

I'm not jealous of the skins, and the only reason I'm even thinking about them is because you guys keep bringing them up

 

[BlueWave]

and which goes against your whole philosophy of spending alot of money in free agency

jumping back and forth on both issues, although unintentionally because you don't have a very strong point, isn't working

You have me mixed up with another poster, I guess.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You have me mixed up with another poster, I guess.

no, it's you alright, the SKins didn't spend money last year, and made the playoffs, but you're an advocate of spending alot of money right? so why are you using the Skins as an example? their sweep of us didn't come about from spending alot of money

 

[BlueWave]

We spent that money on OUR players, and a few nice free agents - and the crux? No salary cap.



Exactly. Noone. Ever. It has not worked. Teams have shown how to get it done. The Pats, Steelers, Colts, Eagles are all models of success. The Skins way does not work. Once it does, all this *****ing and moaning (not necessarily by you) will have some relevance, and reality. Until then, it does not.

How can you say that, it's only been six years. It took the Steelers ten years to even get back to a SuperBowl using there "Mr. Thrifty" approach. You can hardly say it hasn't worked at this point. In only two years with a competent Coach, they have completely turned it around and passed us by in the process. They had Spurrier before for goodness sakes. He started Danny Wuerfel. The jury is still out, in the case of the skins.

 

[BlueWave]

no, it's you alright, the SKins didn't spend money last year, and made the playoffs, but you're an advocate of spending alot of money right? so why are you using the Skins as an example? their sweep of us didn't come about from spending alot of money

I never said I was an advocate of spend a lot of money. In fact, I posted more than one time that I was jealous more of the Skins eager activity than I was of the particualr players they signed or the money they spent. Go back and read it. There situation is different than our. Their needs are different than ours. That doesn't mean it isn't working for them though. I think it is. I don't mind putting some money out is it is necessary to fill a big need, like kin the case of Hutchinson or Longwell. It's a case by case basis.

All I want us to do, or have done, was to be active in signing the players necessary to fill the holes we need to fill, whether they cost a little or a lot.
I certainly don't want to wait around for the next great MLB player we can sign for cheap and hope for the best and I don't want us to wait around until there is nothing left ot sign.

Are there any Kickers playing major League baseball right now?

 

[Marktui]

Dallas is focused on its needs, not on making a splash. Their scouts have access and advantages we do not or ones that we overlook. They saw value in Kosier while he flew beneath our radar. We missed it because we view the NFL through the media and media broadcasts, not the coaching, scouting networks and game films the NFL personnel have access to.

Essentially as fans we have the right to complain when the 'Boys gamble on old players whose best days are several seasons removed coughMARCELLUS WILEYcough, but it's hard to judge otherwise.

I agree with you. Also, because we have 20-25 million this year doesn't mean we blow the whole wad on one year. Roy, Terrance, Jason, Bradie...we will have some free agents next year that this cap room is being saved for as well.

 

[The30YardSlant]

It's a difference between prudent spending in free agency while building through the draft and "building" through free agency. Teams who spend wisely and draft well win Super Bowls. You can't buy an NFL championship.

Tell that to the 1994 SF 49ers :bang2:

 

[superpunk]

Blue Wave, you still do not have a single instance where the Skins approach has actually worked. Until you find one, yes, the jury is still out.

But if the jury is still out, then what do you have to be envious of? Certainly nothing concrete.