Were the Refs ''Influenced'' by Underworld?

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Im sorry but nobody can tell me it's not at least possiable espically after watching yesterdays game between the Cowboys and the Packers. My reasoning here is if it can happen in the Nba where the ref's make more money 250,000 it can happen to NFL Ref's who work part time. And Yes I'll say it the ref's played a part in the Cowboys losing the game yesterday. The packer's played great don't get me wrong, but there were some calls that are just beyond reasoning.

Im not saying the ref's were paid off , I of course have no proof of that. but I do think there is a reasonable chance it did. Let's me go further into why I think there is a chance it might of occurred .

1. The Scandrick fumble recovery wiped out because of a slight push by Mike jenkins. Wade phillips said they haven't been calling that all year but this game it happen once to Jenkins and once to scandrick. Scandrick's converted a third down for the packers.

2.Before the end of the half the Punt returner steps out of bounds at the 43 but the ref's magically make it appear at the 50. The packers ended up kicking a fg.

3.The overturning of the Matt mcbriar caused fumble , was that really conclusive?

4.On the same play they called a packer for a block on the back at the 23, yet the ball was never moved to the 13, it stayed at the 23.

5.Offensive Pass Interfence wiping out tashard choice's first down on the pakcers 35. They called it a pick play on witten and crayton, but the guy covering choice wasn't pick at all. It was an awful call.

6.Felix Jones recovery of Romo fumble is never reviewed? I know they say there's a rule for pile up's etc but this wasn't even close to that.

7. Mike Mcarthy throws a challenge flag when he has none left. There is no penalty on Mcarthy , which should of rewarded 15 yards. How do 8 ref's not know there is a penalty, when the announcers did?




The Nfl in the least need's to hold these ref's accountable for some of these missed calls. They called an awful game, and influenced the outcome by there mistakes.
 
Coast2Coast27;3084066 said:
Im sorry but nobody can tell me it's not at least possiable espically after watching yesterdays game between the Cowboys and the Packers. My reasoning here is if it can happen in the Nba where the ref's make more money 250,000 it can happen to NFL Ref's who work part time. And Yes I'll say it the ref's played a part in the Cowboys losing the game yesterday. The packer's played great don't get me wrong, but there were some calls that are just beyond reasoning.

Im not saying the ref's were paid off , I of course have no proof of that. but I do think there is a reasonable chance it did. Let's me go further into why I think there is a chance it might of occurred .

1. The Scandrick fumble recovery wiped out because of a slight push by Mike jenkins. Wade phillips said they haven't been calling that all year but this game it happen once to Jenkins and once to scandrick. Scandrick's converted a third down for the packers.

2.Before the end of the half the Punt returner steps out of bounds at the 43 but the ref's magically make it appear at the 50. The packers ended up kicking a fg.

3.The overturning of the Matt mcbriar caused fumble , was that really conclusive?

4.On the same play they called a packer for a block on the back at the 23, yet the ball was never moved to the 13, it stayed at the 23.

5.Offensive Pass Interfence wiping out tashard choice's first down on the pakcers 35. They called it a pick play on witten and crayton, but the guy covering choice wasn't pick at all. It was an awful call.

6.Felix Jones recovery of Romo fumble is never reviewed? I know they say there's a rule for pile up's etc but this wasn't even close to that.

7. Mike Mcarthy throws a challenge flag when he has none left. There is no penalty on Mcarthy , which should of rewarded 15 yards. How do 8 ref's not know there is a penalty, when the announcers did?




The Nfl in the least need's to hold these ref's accountable for some of these missed calls. They called an awful game, and influenced the outcome by there mistakes.
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That game was one of the worst displays of "home cooking" I have seen in a long time. The last game I saw that was officiated this one-sided was the Pitt vs. Sea SuperBowl that was gifted wrapped for the Rooneys.

Seriously, it was that blatant.
 
Bad officiating? Sure.

Had we come to play, it wouldn't have mattered. We'd have won.
 
The NBA was exposed. Its not impossible that it has happened in the NFL and other sports as well.
 
Beast_from_East;3084090 said:
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That game was one of the worst displays of "home cooking" I have seen in a long time. The last game I saw that was officiated this one-sided was the Pitt vs. Sea SuperBowl that was gifted wrapped for the Rooneys.

Seriously, it was that blatant.

We usually say....3 blind mice...but these ref's aren't blind, they are hallucinating. They see things no one else can.
 
Ill take a bad call here and there, it usually evens out. But when they flat out dont know the rules they HAVE to be suspended. No excuse.
 
VietCowboy;3084109 said:
We usually say....3 blind mice...but these ref's aren't blind, they are hallucinating. They see things no one else can.

Sad, but true.

I would rather lose by 50 points and have the game officiated fairly then to get raped like we did. Now I am not saying we would have won with fair officiating, probably not.

However, that is not the point. The point is that the game should be officiated fairly and both teams are on a level playing field.
 
12 penalties for Gb, and less than that for Dallas. There is a reason these two teams are no 1 and no 2 in penatlies. Because that is what they do. They commit penalties. No there was no conspiracy. It was sloppy play by both teams and even sloppier play by the refs.

Look the refs missed the call on the fumble. No doubt about it. But even in actual time, I did not know if he was down or not. The refs missed it. But you had to slow it down to slow motion to see it clearly. But it could not be reviewed. Next year at this time, there will probably be a rule that can fix that.

But unless the conspirators names in the underworld are Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Johnny Jolly, Clay Matthews, Nick Barnett, AJ Hawk and company, there is nothing to see here. Dallas has had a lot of breaks over the year that went their way. I doubt anyone here was screaming conspiracy. It is the nature of the game. The incompetence of the officials may be a part of it but that is where it ends.
 
Btw, that was a pick play on Witten. It could have been 20 yards from where the ball was, but a pick play is a pick play no matter where the action is. I have seen Dallas the beneficiary of picks before so it works both ways.
 
FloridaRob;3084129 said:
12 penalties for Gb, and less than that for Dallas. There is a reason these two teams are no 1 and no 2 in penatlies. Because that is what they do. They commit penalties. No there was no conspiracy. It was sloppy play by both teams and even sloppier play by the refs.

Look the refs missed the call on the fumble. No doubt about it. But even in actual time, I did not know if he was down or not. The refs missed it. But you had to slow it down to slow motion to see it clearly. But it could not be reviewed. Next year at this time, there will probably be a rule that can fix that.

But unless the conspirators names in the underworld are Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Johnny Jolly, Clay Matthews, Nick Barnett, AJ Hawk and company, there is nothing to see here. Dallas has had a lot of breaks over the year that went their way. I doubt anyone here was screaming conspiracy. It is the nature of the game. The incompetence of the officials may be a part of it but that is where it ends.

These guys aren't representative of Cowboy fans in general. Yes, the refereeing of that game was intrusive and pretty annoying, but it had little or nothing to do with the loss. Most of us know that and can deal with a midseason loss on the road to a decent team.
 
Idgit;3084138 said:
These guys aren't representative of Cowboy fans in general. Yes, the refereeing of that game was intrusive and pretty annoying, but it had little or nothing to do with the loss. Most of us know that and can deal with a midseason loss on the road to a decent team.

Yea I know Idgit. You guys do the best job policing your own than any other board out there. I will go back into my hole now......
 
Taking into consideration a well written and thought out post, I can only come to one conclusion...

Score more points.
 
the officiating was poor on Sunday but if Folk doesn't miss a kick he makes 9 out of 10 times and if Roy doesn't fumble the ball we have a ballgame. but Folk missed it and Roy fumbled amongst many other mistakes. just gotta move on and get ready for another tough physical game vs the scum of the earth Commanders.
 
other things that stood out:

the catch by driver that we reviewed and got overturned - i was at the game and it seemed clear as day to me that the ball skipped off the ground and there was like 3 refs looking right at him and they rule it a catch????

the fumble mcbriar caused - not only was it a questionable call to overturn, after the play our O was all out on the field along with GB's D. we were out of our huddle and ready to line up to run a play for at least 25-30 seconds but there were 2 refs standing on the ball 'talking' and not letting us line up / snap the ball until mccarthy threw his challenge flag.

a few of the calls just seemed very strange
 
Chill with the conspiracy stuff. The refs are just totally incompetent that's all. :rolleyes:
 
There were quite a few Packers drives, especially early that were completely derailed by penalties.

OK, false starts aren't really a judgement call. But they called holds on the Pack.

Don't forget they threw the flag on the PI on RW in the end zone.

When I watched the game, officiating was not even close to the top of the list of reasons we lost. See a total lack of execution.
 
Billy Bullocks;3084160 said:
There were quite a few Packers drives, especially early that were completely derailed by penalties.

OK, false starts aren't really a judgement call. But they called holds on the Pack.

Don't forget they threw the flag on the PI on RW in the end zone.

When I watched the game, officiating was not even close to the top of the list of reasons we lost. See a total lack of execution.

We did plenty to lose the game, but a non fumble on the punt return, the bogus fumble non- recovery, and a phantom hands to the face call when we recovered a fumble were important moments in the game.
 
Vintage;3084099 said:
Bad officiating? Sure.

Had we come to play, it wouldn't have mattered. We'd have won.

^^^This^^^

If Flo would've executed his blocking assignment correctly, officiating would not have mattered.

Though I admit the officiating was terrible.
 

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