What About Top 10 WR?

[BigDFan5]

Yeesh....tell me about it. Neither Smith nor Moss should be above either of them.

agreed

 

[Hostile]

sorry. big d trying to 'show sack' by tossing around insults won't get him what he wants. you dont insult someone like me -whose been here long enough for regular posters to know i'm not trolling- and then demand things and expect those demands to be met. if he wants a *****, he can look elsewhere.

First of all, I'm not calling you a troll. I have a mind of my own, so leave others out of this and let's just you and I kick this around.

How can you criticize any list without having one of your own?

Just answer me that and we'll go from there.

I'll take back the yellow remark if you can give me a good reason why you don't have a list. If all you want to do is sit back and moan about other people's lists or opinions then I find that dubious in nature.

 

[riggo]

Where would you Skins fans put L.Coles on that list and where would you have put him on that same list last year?

last year i wouldnt have put him on it. i'd have to look at the year before, when he was better, but after game 3 of his first year in DC, he was basically a possession guy.

 

[riggo]

First of all, I'm not calling you a troll. I have a mind of my own, so leave others out of this and let's just you and I kick this around.

How can you criticize any list without having one of your own?

Just answer me that and we'll go from there.

I'll take back the yellow remark if you can give me a good reason why you don't have a list. If all you want to do is sit back and moan about other people's lists or opinions then I find that dubious in nature.

the 'you dont need to' comment was a general one and not meant for you, only those tired posters who love to throw it around at posters like me who actually come here for football discussion.

i understand your point about the list- mines nothing unusual. but putting andre johnson on a list while leaving off santana merits a big .

 

[superpunk]

Very Good point

It's an excellent point - however ignored...

Some don't handle "logic" too well.

 

[BigDFan5]

the 'you dont need to' comment was a general one and not meant for you, only those tired posters who love to throw it around at posters like me who actually come here for football discussion.

i understand your point about the list- mines nothing unusual. but putting andre johnson on a list while leaving off santana merits a big .

again why are you so adamant that a post I made was directed at you? If you arent a troll then you should not have gotten worked up and started claiming I did things that I did not do.

 

[riggo]

Nice, now are you ready to admit I did not insult you at all when you accused me of it, and I never demanded anything? Or are you going to stick to the made up stories? Also Moss above Holt and R Moss? no way

are you claiming your troll comment didnt refer to me?

 

[BigDFan5]

are you claiming your troll comment didnt refer to me?

Go back and look at it, and show me how it refered to you.

 

[riggo]

Go back and look at it, and show me how it refered to you.

you could just say who you were referring to and be done with it. the problem is that i dont see any skins fans who are just trying to stir the pot in this thread. i do see alot of genuine discussion, though.

so, who were you referring to as a troll (trolls) and why?

 

[riggo]

Yeesh....tell me about it. Neither Smith nor Moss should be above either of them.

intersting point about smith. he missed almost all of 2004. and started only one game in 2001. his career averages are not spectacular. leonargized, what do you think?

 

[Hostile]

the 'you dont need to' comment was a general one and not meant for you, only those tired posters who love to throw it around at posters like me who actually come here for football discussion.

i understand your point about the list- mines nothing unusual. but putting andre johnson on a list while leaving off santana merits a big .

Fair enough. Now let's kick this around a little.

Every Skins' fan list I've seen so far is based on 2005 only. How is that not a skewed opinion?

I haven't put a list out there but I will tell you this, it would not be about guys who did well in 2005. It would be about guys who I think are going to do well in 2006 based on their career to date.

Everyone sees football differently. Harder to get panties in a wad if that is remembered.

I'd be trying to look at it like a GM, not a football fan. If each of them was available, who would I want 1 through 10? I can tell you without even making a list that Santana would not make my top 5 based on that. The only smallish WR I could rank that high is Marvin Harrison. It's a preference of mine that I won't apologize for. If you try and tell me Santana is better than Marvin I'm going to laugh at you from now until the sun goes down.

It isn't always about being a homer Riggo. Sometimes it's about how the game is viewed.

 

[BigDFan5]

you could just say who you were referring to and be done with it. the problem is that i dont see any skins fans who are just trying to stir the pot in this thread. i do see alot of genuine discussion, though.

so, who were you referring to as a troll (trolls) and why?

hmm I dunno maybe the one that posted right before me saying "really hate when people open thier mouths when they don't know what the hell they are talking about" <-- now thats pretty trollish correct?

 

[dwmyers]

Portis should be considered top ten as well.

But Moss below some of the guys listed is just silly.

Based on last year's performance, neither Moss nor Glenn are getting the respect they deserve.

David.

 

[riggo]

hmm I dunno maybe the one that posted right before me saying "really hate when people open thier mouths when they don't know what the hell they are talking about" <-- now thats pretty trollish correct?

#1- he was right. stilltheguru acknowledged as much further down the page.

#2- even if you were right, which youre not, that would only be one poster. you said 'some of these skins trolls'. you would need at least 1 more.

#3- you are berating unnamed skins fans as trolls when you yourself never provided a list. your first comment in this thread was your troll comment. seems you are the one stirring the pot while not adding to the discussion and being a participating member, not skins fans.

 

[riggo]

Fair enough. Now let's kick this around a little.

Every Skins' fan list I've seen so far is based on 2005 only. How is that not a skewed opinion?

I haven't put a list out there but I will tell you this, it would not be about guys who did well in 2005. It would be about guys who I think are going to do well in 2006 based on their career to date.

Everyone sees football differently. Harder to get panties in a wad if that is remembered.

I'd be trying to look at it like a GM, not a football fan. If each of them was available, who would I want 1 through 10? I can tell you without even making a list that Santana would not make my top 5 based on that. The only smallish WR I could rank that high is Marvin Harrison. It's a preference of mine that I won't apologize for. If you try and tell me Santana is better than Marvin I'm going to laugh at you from now until the sun goes down.

It isn't always about being a homer Riggo. Sometimes it's about how the game is viewed.

hold your breathe, but i agree with everything you've said. i would weigh recent years more heavily than say, 3 or 4 years ago, obviously.

still, there is no reason to put a guy like andre johnson on the list while leaving s moss off. and like i said about steve smith- before last year, he had only had one decent year. but i'd still put him up there on the list.

 

[BigDFan5]

#1- he was right. stilltheguru acknowledged as much further down the page.

#2- even if you were right, which youre not, that would only be one poster. you said 'some of these skins trolls'. you would need at least 1 more.

#3- you are berating unnamed skins fans as trolls when you yourself never provided a list. your first comment in this thread was your troll comment. seems you are the one stirring the pot while not adding to the discussion and being a participating member, not skins fans.

#1 no he is not right to come act like an *** on another teams board, he should try civility, and he still never made a list and yet he was saying people didnt know what they were talking about.


2 When did you get to be the person that decides what "some" is defined as? the definition of some is " unspecified in amount " Therefore 1 out of 3 in the thread would be considered "some"


3 I was going to make a list but then got sidetracked by you making false accusations and still not backing down on them. Yes I am stirring the pot lol you realize this is a Cowboys board right? Me slapping down a disrespectful skins fan is encouraged not stirring the pot.

 

[Hostile]

hold your breathe, but i agree with everything you've said. i would weigh recent years more heavily than say, 3 or 4 years ago, obviously.

still, there is no reason to put a guy like andre johnson on the list while leaving s moss off. and like i said about steve smith- before last year, he had only had one decent year. but i'd still put him up there on the list.

Hold my breath? I didn't even work up a heart rate increase. You don't want me cranked up Riggo.

:wink2:

I wouldn't put Andre Johnson on a top 10 list either. Steve Smith wouldn't make my top 5 either. I won't apologize for what other people think, so don't try to get me to.

If you'd address that one poster and avoid "you guys" kinds of stereotypes a lot of the pissing contests wouldn't exist. Would they?

 

[riggo]

#1 no he is not right to come act like an *** on another teams board, he should try civility, and he still never made a list and yet he was saying people didnt know what they were talking about.

he said he hated it when people dont know what they are talking about. it turns out stilltheguru was wrong and even said so. he didnt have a problem with it. he was right. how is that acting like an ***? i realize this is a cowboys message board, but that doesnt preclude cowboys posters from making mistakes, and it shouldnt preclude other posters from pointing it out. you're either being way too sensitive, or, more likely, youre looking for anything to try and support your troll comment.

sorry, pointing out when someone is factually wrong is not trolling, especially when there wasnt even an insult- like, say, 'troll' or 'idiot' attached to it.

hostile is very capable of keeping real trolls on a leash.

2 When did you get to be the person that decides what "some" is defined as? the definition of some is " unspecified in amount " Therefore 1 out of 3 in the thread would be considered "some"

i'm not. but the dictionary is.

some(a): quantifier; used with either mass nouns or plural count nouns to indicate an unspecified number or quantity; "have some milk"; "some roses were still blooming"; "having some friends over"; "some apples"; "some paper"

3 I was going to make a list but then got sidetracked by you making false accusations and still not backing down on them. Yes I am stirring the pot lol you realize this is a Cowboys board right? Me slapping down a disrespectful skins fan is encouraged not stirring the pot.

wow. you called me a hypocrite yesterday. how ironic. and you have yet to prove my accusation as false.

you still stirred the pot by asking for a list without giving your own list and referring to said posters as trolls.

it is what it is.

 

[riggo]

Hold my breath? I didn't even work up a heart rate increase. You don't want me cranked up Riggo.

i dunno. agreeing with cowboyfans makes me nervous. :

I wouldn't put Andre Johnson on a top 10 list either. Steve Smith wouldn't make my top 5 either. I won't apologize for what other people think, so don't try to get me to.

oh, i know you wouldnt, and i wouldnt ask you to apologise for anyone elses lists. i addressed leonargized, but it looks like hes gone for the day.

If you'd address that one poster and avoid "you guys" kinds of stereotypes a lot of the pissing contests wouldn't exist. Would they?

thats actually exactly what i've been trying to get at.

 

[BigDFan5]

he said he hated it when people dont know what they are talking about. it turns out stilltheguru was wrong and even said so. he didnt have a problem with it. he was right. how is that acting like an ***? i realize this is a cowboys message board, but that doesnt preclude cowboys posters from making mistakes, and it shouldnt preclude other posters from pointing it out. you're either being way too sensitive, or, more likely, youre looking for anything to try and support your troll comment.

I noticed you tried to clean up his comment a little, read what he said word for word. He was disrespectful no matter how you look at it, you can correct someone without being a dick

i'm not. but the dictionary is.

some(a): quantifier; used with either mass nouns or plural count nouns to indicate an unspecified number or quantity; "have some milk"; "some roses were still blooming"; "having some friends over"; "some apples"; "some paper"

Keep reading because the definition I showed is there too. There is no set number on the word some

wow. you called me a hypocrite yesterday.

I wasn't the only one, you were being a hypocrite

how ironic. and you have yet to prove my accusation as false.

Umm yes I have, just because you dont like the answer doesnt mean anything. You said I insulted YOU, yet you still have not shown where this occured

you still stirred the pot by asking for a list without giving your own list and referring to said posters as trolls.

Face facts 95% of the Skins fans on this board are trolls those are facts, and like I said I was gonna make a list until I got into the argument with you for accusing me of things that didnt happen.

it is what it is.

and what it is appears to be you having a guilty conscience that auomatically thought I was talking about you when I mentioned troll