What can Rob Ryan learn from the way the 49ers mauled Manning today.

Woods;4391577 said:
I think Ratliff is a "good" to very good player. Not great anymore, imo.

And I think a healthy Jenkins is/can be a "good" player.

But that's about it.

We can hope that B Carter ends up being a quality player as well.

Other than that, we need to add another DL, quality CB at the very least.

We just need a boat load of defensive players.

Ware, Jenkins, Lee, and Ratliff are the only guys that we shouldn't look at upgrading their position.


The quickest fix, imo, is getting more pressure players and not investing a dime in a guy like Anthony Spencer who will not provide that.
 
dstew60105;4391477 said:
Yes the Giants won, but the 49ers mauled Manning today. Hopefully Rob is paying attention.


Rob "note to self I have Ware and hmmmmmm I need more guys like him "
 
CATCH17;4391919 said:
We just need a boat load of defensive players.

Ware, Jenkins, Lee, and Ratliff are the only guys that we shouldn't look at upgrading their position.


The quickest fix, imo, is getting more pressure players and not investing a dime in a guy like Anthony Spencer who will not provide that.

I think you need to upgrade jenkins also ... does he start for any of the teams that played this weekend? No i dont think so ... he is a soft CB ... hates to tackle .... did you see those CBs making tackle after tackle this past weekend? Jenkins is a nickel corner.
 
It isn't what Ryan can learn. I am pretty sure he already realizes how physical play can change a game. It is what can the players learn?
 
JackWagon;4391975 said:
I think you need to upgrade jenkins also ... does he start for any of the teams that played this weekend? No i dont think so ... he is a soft CB ... hates to tackle .... did you see those CBs making tackle after tackle this past weekend? Jenkins is a nickel corner.

I disagree. I think Jenkins is a heck of a player. He just gets hurt to much.

Plus as bad as our passrush is he still manages better than anyone else we have.

He actually has some ball skills.
 
JackWagon;4391975 said:
I think you need to upgrade jenkins also ... does he start for any of the teams that played this weekend? No i dont think so ... he is a soft CB ... hates to tackle .... did you see those CBs making tackle after tackle this past weekend? Jenkins is a nickel corner.

I thought that Jenkins' attitude improved this past season. He tried to tackle even with his injury. And he played through his injury the end of the season. That was a clear improvement to me, at least.

As for Newman, I don't remember a game (vs the Giants) where a starting CB has been abused so badly in both the run and passing game for some time.

I hope we get Webb from Baltimore. I think he's a player.
 
Woods;4392008 said:
I thought that Jenkins' attitude improved this past season. He tried to tackle even with his injury. And he played through his injury the end of the season. That was a clear improvement to me, at least.

As for Newman, I don't remember a game (vs the Giants) where a starting CB has been abused so badly in both the run and passing game for some time.

I hope we get Webb from Baltimore. I think he's a player.

Hes way better than we have currently on this roster and he comes from a culture of toughness and winning in the ravens.
 
Our problem this past year IMO was Rob came here and told the coaches/Jerry that he could turn this puppy around with his scheme.

It was a total snow job. Jerry might be the best Salesman in the world, but he can be sold really easy.

It's not Rob's fault. He needed a job and had only seen these guys on tape. He did a heck of a job early. Remember when we were pretty good on defense early, shutting NE down, etc.?

He know's we need new players and IMO we should go all in. I am tired of hoping....I want results now! Go spend some money Jerry and not on WR's!!!
 
Change of players would be nice. I hope Ware becomes the vocal leader this team needs on Defense. He needs to get in players face!
 
Take Jerry up on his offer to cut 31 players from the roster and be much more active in the free agent market. The niners had six new faces on defense through free agency.
 
hopefully he learns we will never win with spears and coleman on the dline. NEVER.
 
dstew60105;4391477 said:
Yes the Giants won, but the 49ers mauled Manning today. Hopefully Rob is paying attention.


Wont make a difference when our DB's suck.

Anyways, :laugh1: at thinking Rob doesn't know how to get after the QB. Cowboys fans remain the dumbest fan base in the NFL.
 
Three of the four teams playing yesterday were there because of their defense. Especially their D-line. A great four man rush automatically makes the secondary better. I'd try to add one solid guard to the O-line and focus on d-line.
 
Vtwin;4392133 said:
Three of the four teams playing yesterday were there because of their defense. Especially their D-line. A great four man rush automatically makes the secondary better. I'd try to add one solid guard to the O-line and focus on d-line.

Where have I heard this before.
 

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