CFZ What could go wrong for Cowboys in 2023?

[gimmesix]

Understood but we are much deeper in our receiving corps and I believe would be in a better situation to overcome injuries compared to weaker areas on offense .

I'm not sure we're much deeper. We added one absolute in Cooks. That obviously makes us better in our top three, especially if Gallup returns to pre-injury form.

Beyond that, we're still relying on Tolbert or Fehoko to step forward. We're still relying on another late-round draft pick in Brooks to pan out or UDFAs in Houston, Moreno-Cropper, Durden, Stephens Jr., Drummond and Turpin. There are not many pro receptions among that group, and just like none of them may even go on to have better careers than Noah Brown. I'm hopeful that at least one or two of them will be finds, but we just don't know if that will be the case. Throwing a bunch of later-round picks and UDFAs into the mix doesn't make us "much deeper," it just means we're crossing our fingers for a different group of guys, most of whom will not pan out and all of whom might not.

We had plenty on here last year thinking James Washington was going to be a cheap FA find for us last year, and we saw how that turned out. We're better off in our top three because this time we brought in a proven, quality receiver, but I don't think it should be assumed that we're much deeper until these young guys show that.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm not sure we're much deeper. We added one absolute in Cooks. That obviously makes us better in our top three, especially if Gallup returns to pre-injury form.

Beyond that, we're still relying on Tolbert or Fehoko to step forward. We're still relying on another late-round draft pick in Brooks to pan out or UDFAs in Houston, Moreno-Cropper, Durden, Stephens Jr., Drummond and Turpin. There are not many pro receptions among that group, and just like none of them may even go on to have better careers than Noah Brown. I'm hopeful that at least one or two of them will be finds, but we just don't know if that will be the case. Throwing a bunch of later-round picks and UDFAs into the mix doesn't make us "much deeper," it just means we're crossing our fingers for a different group of guys, most of whom will not pan out and all of whom might not.

We had plenty on here last year thinking James Washington was going to be a cheap FA find for us last year, and we saw how that turned out. We're better off in our top three because this time we brought in a proven, quality receiver, but I don't think it should be assumed that we're much deeper until these young guys show that.

Well, if you had to list our strengths on offense by groups, where would you rank WR’s up against TE, RB, OL and QB?

 

[gimmesix]

Well, if you had to list our strengths on offense by groups, where would you rank WR’s up against TE, RB, OL and QB?

Projected starting group? WR and OL would be pretty even. At WR, we have Lamb, Cooks, Gallup. At OL, we have Tyron, Tyler Biadasz, Martin and Steele. Injuries to either group would be a concern at the moment, but depthwise at OL at least we have a couple of players with a little experience in Edoga and Farniok (very little). I have high hopes for Waletzko, but right now, that's all they are is hopes. We don't have an Edoga-level backup as far as experience goes among the receiver candidates, so I guess for the moment, I'd give the OL the nod (acknowledging the injury concerns with Tyron and that Steele is coming off injury).

It's funny the the TEs could turn out to be the deepest group because we saw some good things to build on last year with Ferguson and Hendershot (more good than we saw with any of the backup WRs) and spent a second-round pick on the position. But we're unsure about any of them as a starter because we haven't seen them do it yet, so it's hard to list them as stronger than two groups we're we know the quality of the starters.

At RB, we have few doubts about the starter other than he's coming off injury and has not had to carry a real heavy load up to this point in his career. The backup we brought in (Jones II) has proven NFL ability, but there are questions about why he wasn't able to get as much playing time the last two years. Davis showed some potential in limited snaps, and who knows what Vaughn can do on this level. I'd probably put this group ahead of the tight ends because Pollard's NFL ability is known. However, it's possible that the TEs will end up having the best depth (three-deep) of any of the groups.

So: OL, WR, RB, TE for now ... if there's one injury, an OL of Tyler, Edoga, Biadasz, Martin, Tyron/Steele concerns me less at the moment than a WR corps of Cooks, Gallup, Tolbert.

I guess that's how I look at it. If there's an injury, would you rather?

Tyler, Edoga, Biadasz, Martin, Steele (without Tyron, most likely to be injured)

Lamb, Cooks, Tolbert (without Gallup, most likely to be injured)

Schoonmaker, Hendershot, McKeon (without Ferguson, because I have no idea who is most likely to be injured)

Jones II, Davis, Vaughn (without Pollard, most likely to be injured primarily because he'll get most of the carries)

 

[StarBoyz83]

This...................Look below and everything else is secondary when deciding the fate of the season!

 

[StarBoyz83]

Lol

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Yea, losing starting QB is basically a season over for most teams . We illustrated last year we can sustain a few games if our defense is balling but if we lost our QB for the season , it’s probably over as far as making any deep runs .

LOL....just a slight drop off or an improvement from Dak to Rush.
In fact, now that I think about our team played harder for Rush.
Who do you think Dak is.......Mahomes or Allen? LOL
Snap out of it we're talking Kirk Cousins here....

 

[Diehardblues]

Projected starting group? WR and OL would be pretty even. At WR, we have Lamb, Cooks, Gallup. At OL, we have Tyron, Tyler Biadasz, Martin and Steele. Injuries to either group would be a concern at the moment, but depthwise at OL at least we have a couple of players with a little experience in Edoga and Farniok (very little). I have high hopes for Waletzko, but right now, that's all they are is hopes. We don't have an Edoga-level backup as far as experience goes among the receiver candidates, so I guess for the moment, I'd give the OL the nod (acknowledging the injury concerns with Tyron and that Steele is coming off injury).

It's funny the the TEs could turn out to be the deepest group because we saw some good things to build on last year with Ferguson and Hendershot (more good than we saw with any of the backup WRs) and spent a second-round pick on the position. But we're unsure about any of them as a starter because we haven't seen them do it yet, so it's hard to list them as stronger than two groups we're we know the quality of the starters.

At RB, we have few doubts about the starter other than he's coming off injury and has not had to carry a real heavy load up to this point in his career. The backup we brought in (Jones II) has proven NFL ability, but there are questions about why he wasn't able to get as much playing time the last two years. Davis showed some potential in limited snaps, and who knows what Vaughn can do on this level. I'd probably put this group ahead of the tight ends because Pollard's NFL ability is known. However, it's possible that the TEs will end up having the best depth (three-deep) of any of the groups.

So: OL, WR, RB, TE for now ... if there's one injury, an OL of Tyler, Edoga, Biadasz, Martin, Tyron/Steele concerns me less at the moment than a WR corps of Cooks, Gallup, Tolbert.

I guess that's how I look at it. If there's an injury, would you rather?

Tyler, Edoga, Biadasz, Martin, Steele (without Tyron, most likely to be injured)

Lamb, Cooks, Tolbert (without Gallup, most likely to be injured)

Schoonmaker, Hendershot, McKeon (without Ferguson, because I have no idea who is most likely to be injured)

Jones II, Davis, Vaughn (without Pollard, most likely to be injured primarily because he'll get most of the carries)

So OL and WR are at the top of your list. That’s probably where I’d place them as well with WR slightly above mainly cause I feel Tyron will go down at some point . And now Martin is threatening to not report.

 

[leeblair]

First of all key injuries. Our key OL who are njury prone could definitely impact our season. It’s not a matter of if with Tyron but when. Steele and Martin both have injury history as well. Any combinations there could cause havoc to our offense.

Next concern is our running game . We don’t know if Pollard can carry the load for 17 games. And or if we have suitable support in the event he’s isn’t able to carry the load. We actually look somewhat similar to 2015 when we had RB by Committee.

TE is also a concern with no one who’s started in the NFL. Ferguson looks capable of contributing but that doesn’t necessarily translate to a full time starting role . We have potential backups who could add support but I’d argue it’s a position with more questions or concerns than answers and solidity until further notice .

Our strength on offense appears to be our receiving corps. The additions we made along with our returning starting WR’s, as long as we can protect our QB establish any kind of running game , assuming our QB can stay healthy appears to be more than capable . And it might have to carry the offense in the event our other concerns falling short or short handed .

Defensively not as many injury concerns assuming Parsons can stay healthy. The additions we made in draft at. DT and in FA in secondary this could be our best defense in decades . Much cause for excitement defensively. It could be why we finally take the next step. But we’ll still need the balance offensively which is my greater concern.

The wheels could come off if they struggle during the first half of the season and players turn on Dak. Mike McCarthy is in danger of being blamed if Dak's struggles continue.

 

[Diehardblues]

LOL....just a slight drop off or an improvement from Dak to Rush.
In fact, now that I think about our team played harder for Rush.
Who do you think Dak is.......Mahomes or Allen? LOL
Snap out of it we're talking Kirk Cousins here....

And the Viqueens season would be pretty much over if Cousins goes down for season. Which is pretty much the story anywhere with a Franchise QB with rare exceptions .

 

[Diehardblues]

The wheels could come off if they struggle during the first half of the season and players turn on Dak. Mike McCarthy is in danger of being blamed if Dak's struggles continue.

At some point after several OC and play callers Dak will eventually hold some responsibility.

This is a big season for MM and Prescott. They need to turn it around . And if they don’t and Moore helps LA and Herbert advance , then it’s all going to be exposed. It’s set up for some high drama this year. Should be fun.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

So.ething HORRIBLE....like maybe our best oLineman deciding to hold out?

 

[gimmesix]

So OL and WR are at the top of your list. That’s probably where I’d place them as well with WR slightly above mainly cause I feel Tyron will go down at some point . And now Martin is threatening to not report.

I truly doubt that Martin will miss any games. If nothing else, he'll limit the opportunities for injury by missing some training camp. I don't worry about players like him not being at every practice. Tyron will miss games. I just feel we're better equipped to handle that at the moment than if any of our top three receivers have to miss games. I know the Edoga signing wasn't anything major, but it looks like he could at least be an adequate starting guard.

 

[The Fonz]

 

[TequilaCowboy]

If Dak goes down we are screwed. I’m not a huge Dak fan at this point, but we seem to refuse to solidify the backup position. Rush isn’t the answer.

Most teams are screwed if they lose their starter....backups are mostly crap. But if Dak goes down, tank the season and grab a QB in the first.

 

[Diehardblues]

I truly doubt that Martin will miss any games. If nothing else, he'll limit the opportunities for injury by missing some training camp. I don't worry about players like him not being at every practice. Tyron will miss games. I just feel we're better equipped to handle that at the moment than if any of our top three receivers have to miss games. I know the Edoga signing wasn't anything major, but it looks like he could at least be an adequate starting guard.

I hope you’re right about Martin. But for the sake of argument if we were to lose him and Tyron for significant time it alters our OL and potential impact to offense could be detrimental to our offense .

 

[Cowboys5217]

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The wheels could come off if they struggle during the first half of the season and players turn on Dak. Mike McCarthy is in danger of being blamed if Dak's struggles continue.

Consider this a guarantee just a matter of when......????

 

[ChronicCowboy]

OL depth is my main concern. A couple injuries and we’ll see headlights Dak every week.

 

[Catpappy]

I mean we’re going into the season with questions at running back and Dakuracy is always a worry. I’ll be watching regardless. It’s been awhile since we had this much talent.

 

[gimmesix]

I hope you’re right about Martin. But for the sake of argument if we were to lose him and Tyron for significant time it alters our OL and potential impact to offense could be detrimental to our offense .

If we lose two of our starting offensive linemen miss significant time, we should expect it to be detrimental.