What do you think about Michael Sam's reality show

[DallasEast]

It's threads like these which make me not look back fondly at my moderator days.

Good luck mods!

 

[Denim Chicken]

As a 7th rd pick with a long road ahead regarding a football future, I would probably be doing anything I could to make some cash off the publicity hype before people get bored of it.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Since Oprah has her hand in all this I would be shocked if she doesn't do an interview with him.

 

[HomerSimpson31]

I think the whole thing is a joke. Frankly i'm tired of hearing about a guy that was the 249th pick and would rather hear about the top prospects or even the guy drafted by the Eagles which served in the Military and should be getting media attention for his service to this country. Way better stories out there but this guy is even out selling jerseys over the number 1 overall pick and it's just insane. No offense to the OP here,just tired of all the Sam talk.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'm sorry you are naive to think "all a reality show does is follow someone around". That is NEVER true - events are orchestrated and manipulated. They already have been and will continue to be in this case as in the case of every reality show ever.

I would just like to point out "reality TV" =/= a documentary. Yes, you are right that on reality TV, events are orchestrated, but by all accounts, this was only going to chronicle his experience. More like Hard Knocks, which is not at all similar to the other shows in the reality TV genre.

 

[WV Cowboy]

but I do have a problem with him saying it doesn't matter only to keep bringing it up and calling him brave. The bravery in the matter is void if anyone who is not adamantly in support of you is publicly lampooned and reprimanded.

Needed said.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

II have no problem with him being gay, more power to him, but I do have a problem with him saying it doesn't matter only to keep bringing it up and calling him brave. The bravery in the matter is void if anyone who is not adamantly in support of you is publicly lampooned and reprimanded.

Couldn't disagree more. While many (not all) who say anything negatively in public about him being gay will be lampooned, nothing can and will be done when he is treated differently and no real reason is acknowledged. Especially interactions that aren't televised.

 

[jimmy40]

So then you agree he's more passionate about football

well I haven't seen him rub cake in other football player's faces so right now I'd say no.

 

[burmafrd]

I would just like to point out "reality TV" =/= a documentary. Yes, you are right that on reality TV, events are orchestrated, but by all accounts, this was only going to chronicle his experience. More like Hard Knocks, which is not at all similar to the other shows in the reality TV genre.

no WAY does reality TV = Documentary. Check Websters for definition of a documentary and tell me that is what a reality show is.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

no WAY does reality TV = Documentary. Check Websters for definition of a documentary and tell me that is what a reality show is.

lol, =/= means does not equal.

 

[revospeed]

Couldn't disagree more. While many (not all) who say anything negatively in public about him being gay will be lampooned, nothing can and will be done when he is treated differently and no real reason is acknowledged. Especially interactions that aren't televised.

Were the Incognito/Martin "bullying" events televised? No,they were private, but word got out and Incognito was crucified by the media and his career was ruined. The same thing will happen if someone doesn't say hi to Sam in the hallway. Word will get out that Joey Footballplayer has been bullying Sam by treating him differently and the Rams' headquarters will become the media capital of the world. It will be even worse if Sam doesn't make the team, homophobia accusations will be rampant. No one in the Rams locker room can treat Sam as anything other than a prince among paupers without being accused of a homophobe, fined and sent to sensitivity training, if not losing his job

 

[revospeed]

While many (not all) who say anything negatively in public about him being gay will be lampooned.

Can you fined me someone relevant (not some Joe Schmo with a twitter account) that spoke out in anything other than undying support of Sam that wasn't publicly lampooned or disciplined? I mean yeah, no one is going to care about some idiot who calls Sam the "F" word on twitter, but if you're a fellow athlete, celebrity, politician, TV star, pundit, or any type of public figure you have two options in regard to Sam and any situation like that. You can come out and cheer and applaud Sam for his bravery and pledge an oath or allegiance to supporting him or if you disagree you can keep your mouth shut. Because if you are one of these people and you say anything that could be construed as negative, you're probably going to lose your job. So yeah, not every person will be lampooned, but every relevant (in regards to this matter) person will be.

 

[Hardline]

We are ignoring the elephant in the room when discussing the Michael Sam situation. What is missing is brutal honesty and the admins have made sure that will not happen. This is a homosexual driven agenda . And there is no such thing as reality TV. Put a camera on someone and you will not get reality because you will always play up to the camera. If this is my last post and I get banned. It was nice knowing you .

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Sam is in the new PEOPLE magazine in an article highlighting gay athletes in various sports.

The back story with this guy is disturbing. Two of his brothers are in prison & one was murdered in front of him.

I do commend him for rising above all that. Hopefully he can continue to be successful

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Can you fined me someone relevant (not some Joe Schmo with a twitter account) that spoke out in anything other than undying support of Sam that wasn't publicly lampooned or disciplined?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/05/12/what_you_need_to_know_about_michael_sam

wasn't that hard, actually my first search. And while Limbaugh doesn't come out and say, Sam was only drafted because he's gay, he does say he wasn't surprised that Sam was drafted, but then goes on to quote several anonymous scouts who say he is undraftable.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

This is a homosexual driven agenda

Why is this a homosexual agenda to support Sam? And Why wouldn't it in turn be an anti homosexual agenda when someone doesn't like Sam?

 

[burmafrd]

lol, =/= means does not equal.

the FACT that you can even mention the same in one sentence shows you have no clue

 

[Manwiththeplan]

the FACT that you can even mention the same in one sentence shows you have no clue

....I didn't people kept mentioning the Michael sam reality show and I said by all accounts, it's a documentary. We're making the same point

 

[Hardline]

Why is this a homosexual agenda to support Sam? And Why wouldn't it in turn be an anti homosexual agenda when someone doesn't like Sam?

Because the anti-homosexual people are not promoting this. The pro-homosexual media is.
And when someone speaks out against the sin of homosexuality they get labeled homophobes which means we fear homosexuality. We do not fear it.We oppose it on moral grounds. But make no mistake. The homosexual agenda is in full force.

 

[revospeed]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/05/12/what_you_need_to_know_about_michael_sam

wasn't that hard, actually my first search. And while Limbaugh doesn't come out and say, Sam was only drafted because he's gay, he does say he wasn't surprised that Sam was drafted, but then goes on to quote several anonymous scouts who say he is undraftable.

Limbaugh was attacked for his thoughts on that matter, even though they were based on what scouts told him. Somehow you left that out even though these articles in which Limbaugh was publicly lampooned were easy to find. Can you tell me what was so bad about what Limbaugh said that was so bad in regards to Michael Sam?

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/11/rus...m_coming_out_heterosexuals_are_under_assault/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/rush-limbaugh-michael-sam_n_4768486.html
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/rush-limbaugh-attacks-gay-nfl-prospect
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...His-F-ing-Marbles-Over-Michael-Sam-Coming-Out

I'm sure you can find more if you feel the need to


Where is the outrage that Jackson Jeffcoat wasn't drafted? The two were very similar prospects with similar credentials, but one can only imagine the outrage if Sam wasn't drafted. Media coverage, hour long segments on the news, President Obama might have put his two cents in on the matter, but there was not outrage for Jackson Jeffcoat.

Nonetheless, you're grasping for straws to try and make it seem as if there is an agenda against Sam. There isn't. Rush Limbaugh saying that he's not surprised he was drafted because he's gay doesn't mean that there are homophobes everywhere that are out to get him.