What exactly did Keshawn do wrong?

[LaTunaNostra]

Latuna I am with you 100% on this one I thought Bledsoe was out of line and if this is a pattern of his I can see how he could wear out his welcome by pointing the finger at everyone else.

As Al Pacino said in Godfather III, "just as I try to get out, they pull me back in".

I'm outta this one, Jiggyfly, but I do want to point out to the posters who accused me of Drew hating (I got my faults, but playuh hating AIN'T one of them) the longwinded post #41 in this thread, which I wrote in quite heated defense of Drew Bledsoe on Saturday morning.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=542027#post542027

Fundamental fairness is what floats my boat more than anything else, and I came down on Drew's side on one issue, against him on the other. I don't fancy slagging off of and disrepecting of players..not by mediots, fans or quarterbacks.

In this case, the issue for me was not that the QB was Bledsoe. I'd have felt the same of ANY QB publically chastising ANY vet receiver who plays, blocks, and works his arse off like KJ does, and who has such an enormous will to win above all else.

We do need to let this one go tho, JF.

As usual, the players are re-acting more maturely than we are.

Please don't invite me or incite me back in. LOL

 

[JIGGYFLY]

Do you think Aikman would have said anything to irvin in that situation. Aikman even said during the game that Bledsoe should ahve known better than to throw that ball to Key in that situation.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I like the fact that players are holding other players accountable. It’s good. Hey, at least the Cowboys are showing emotion over mistakes.

 

[Doomsday101]

Everytime Marino threw an incompletion he motioned towards the receiver as if he ran the wrong route, often jawed at receivers too.

Regardless if some fans like it or not it comes with the job of being QB. I also think this is a non-issue just as Randy White was saying last night on SOS.

 

[Doomsday101]

Do you think Aikman would have said anything to irvin in that situation. Aikman even said during the game that Bledsoe should ahve known better than to throw that ball to Key in that situation.

Key should have used his body to protect the ball, Aikman also said Key should have held on to it. Yes I do think Troy would have said something to Mike, or is it just alright that Troy b!tched out linemen?

 

[Dallas]

It is a non issue. Make of it what you want. The fact of the matter is you dont see WR's up in the QBs face on INT/Fumbles etc.

Be accountable. These two are vets. You dont need to remind that vet that he needs to hold onto the ball better. Thats a given.

Unless o course ....hes a rook. =)

 

[BlueWave]

Key should have used his body to protect the ball, Aikman also said Key should have held on to it. Yes I do think Troy would have said something to Mike, or is it just alright that Troy b!tched out linemen?

Thing is, as much as I don't like Irvin, I'll bet you anything that Irvin would never yell back at Aikman. He said it many times, a receiver should never, ever, yell at his QB, even when he is right.

 

[Givincer]

As long as Drew keeps producing he will not lose support of his teammates. There is nothing wrong with the supposed leader of the offense getting on somebody's case even if it is just to set an example and make an example of someone for making a mistake. I agree there was nothing Keyshawn could have done to hang on to the ball but to blow up like that is ridiculous. I could understand if Keyshawn was producing an extraordinary amount but he isn't and him exploding like that makes him look bad even if it was for different reasons than the establishment media portrays it.

 

[CooterBrown]

Keyshawn did nothing wrong. After watching the game film, I'm sure Bledsoe will agree. But, we had the television angles while Drew saw it from field level. From the QB position he led the receiver well, the receiver caught it with his hands and gets hit and suddenly the Eagles have the ball going the other direction.
Should Bledsoe have said something? We don't know and can't know. We see it from the outside looking in. We don't know the internal dynamics or the chemistry of the team. One thing we do know, Bledsoe is the leader of this team and he thought he ought to say something. Keyshawn was not at fault on the play and reacted as most people in an emotional moment would do. They are both fierce competitors and I would much rather have that than the lacksidasical crap we have put up with for so many years now. Vinnie was a good passer, but there was no fire in his eye. If Bledsoe is the leader I think he is, this will never be a problem in the relationship between the two of them.

 

[Doomsday101]

It is a non issue. Make of it what you want. The fact of the matter is you dont see WR's up in the QBs face on INT/Fumbles etc.

Be accountable. These two are vets. You dont need to remind that vet that he needs to hold onto the ball better. Thats a given.

Unless o course ....hes a rook. =)

As Drew said neither guy owes any apology and he will call guys out when mistakes are made. God knows Drew takes the heat after a loss, like any QB he takes more blame when they lose and a lot of credit when they win.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

OK I am finished as well but while watching the game when they explained why Key and Bledsoe were going at it I could not believe that Bledsoe would say anything about the fumble when I thought he was somewhat culpable in it happening in the first place. I will say this you have opened my eyes a little bit on Bledsoe I can see a little bit of prima donna in him I hope parcells can keep him in check also if parcells if half the coach I think he is he had a few words for both players.

 

[Dallas]

As long as Drew keeps producing he will not lose support of his teammates. There is nothing wrong with the supposed leader of the offense getting on somebody's case even if it is just to set an example and make an example of someone for making a mistake. I agree there was nothing Keyshawn could have done to hang on to the ball but to blow up like that is ridiculous. I could understand if Keyshawn was producing an extraordinary amount but he isn't and him exploding like that makes him look bad even if it was for different reasons than the establishment media portrays it.

Key has only won us .....like 2 games so far this year w/ his play.

That still does not excuse him going off like he did. Say what you want to Beldsoe..even yell it. But dont go off like he kicked your dog.

 

[Doomsday101]

Thing is, as much as I don't like Irvin, I'll bet you anything that Irvin would never yell back at Aikman. He said it many times, a receiver should never, ever, yell at his QB, even when he is right.

As I said below being a QB in Dallas is hard enough, they take the heat by the media and the fans more so than anyother player on the field. Drew is showing himself as the leader of this offense and this team and if that offends some fans then so be it.

 

[Givincer]

It's great that he can catch balls in the clutch but what about the other 58-59 minutes of the game. He makes great sideline grabs, but I don't buy the whole deal about he doesn't need separation - every receiver needs separation its a bonus to beable to go up and catch it in space. Glenn is clearly this teams best wide receiver.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

I agree sir I just thought Key was taking a little to much blame.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

OK I can agree to a point but if had just got the snot knocked out of me after being put into a position where I was defenseless lets just say I might have had a few choice words for the person who put me in that position and added a little salt in the wound.

 

[boysfanindc]

On Sports Center they showed the press conference and they asked Drew this question and Drew's response was somthing along the lines of you gotta hold on to the ball.

I personally have no problem with Drew saying it or KEY being pissed. Confrontation is fine as long as you get over it.

 

[Dallas4ever]

The question I have is why did Bledsoe say anything to Keshawn in the first placel, there was nothing Keshawn could have done differently his qb led him into the defender and that defender made a great play to knock the ball out if anything Bledsoe should have appoligized for hanging his receiver out for that hit.

I would have reacted the same way as Keshawn did especialy when he had been serving as a blitz protector for a good part of the game, tell me what other wide out would block out of the backfeild as Key did. Some of you posters really let your personal biases show saying that Bledsoe was right in what he did, I guarantee that Aikman would have been asking about Irvins health instead of yelling at him about a fumble.

I would venture to say Bledsoe might have more people looking at him sideways now than respecting his leadership abilities the bottom line is you gain more respect by admitting your mistakes than by blaming someone else or by pointing out what someone does wrong. Latuna I am with you 100% on this one I thought Bledsoe was out of line and if this is a pattern of his I can see how he could wear out his welcome by pointing the finger at everyone else.

We'd like to believe that this is behind them. Both guys were out of line IMO.

Bledsoe initiated the confrontation by saying something that was obviously negative. If you're not gonna console your teamate, don't say anything.

Keyshawn overeacted, but it shouldn't have come as a suprise. His antics are well documented and he's already established that he has very little self control. I'm not saying that he should have ignored Bledsoe because most players wouldn't have in that instance. His fault was that he took the incident to another level when a few words would have sufficed.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

How is that showing leadership did he once accept any of the blame for putting the receiver in that position Aikman even said that Drew should have known better.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't believe there was anything KJ could have done in that situation. He got led into the stick. It happens. It should never become a habbit but it does happen. Had that play resulted in an injury, it would be viewed a bit differently. Bottom line, it happened.

In fairness, Bledsoe did have JJ (I believe) running a flair, wide open. He did not look at him but he was there and he was open. Bledsoe elected to go to KJ. A step more and KJ probably has time to secure the ball. It's very difficult to judge the speed of the game sometimes. In a way, it's almost a compliment to KJ. That was not an easy catch, under the circumstances. KJ probably looks at it as if to say, you almost got me killed and Bledsoe probably looks at it as if to say, KJ is tough and he's proven. If anybody can make the catch, it's KJ. I'm throwing it to him.

Emotion runs hot in big games. It should run hot. If it doesn't, there's a problem.

Bottom line, this will all go away upon the next TD reception for KJ.