What Happen To Garrett?

[adbutcher]

The skinny post, slants, outs, and out-and-up, what happen to these routes? What happen to our power running game?

In my opinion we operated too much out of the shotgun and we incorporated too many spread offense philosophies into the timing base offensive system. For example, when you bunch our big WRs in a trips open look it plays to the strength of the defense because the bunch is typically reserved for smaller quicker WRs.

Currently, I am disappointed in Red and if he doesn't leave for a HC gig, I hope he gets back to what made the timing base offense so effective. Also, Wade had better keep Red's ego in check and make sure that we are run committed team. I like TO/R. Williams/Witten but our offensive line is built to run and wear teams down. It is kind of hard to work on a defensive line when you are in a constant backpeddle trying to get in a pass pro set. The entire team needs to do some soul searching but the offensive side and special teams need to do extra.

In the NFL you win consistently by winning two of the three keep match ups between Defense, Offense, and Special Teams. For the more part the defense took care of their responsibilities and contributed effectively. Getting rid of Bruce is a good start but Red better take notice because his play calling needs a great deal of improvement if we are going to get over the December hump.

 

[brickman]

The skinny post, slants, outs, and out-and-up, what happen to these routes? What happen to our power running game?

In my opinion we operated too much out of the shotgun and we incorporated too many spread offense philosophies into the timing base offensive system. For example, when you bunch our big WRs in a trips open look it plays to the strength of the defense because the bunch is typically reserved for smaller quicker WRs.

Currently, I am disappointed in Red and if he doesn't leave for a HC gig, I hope he gets back to what made the timing base offense so effective. Also, Wade had better keep Red's ego in check and make sure that we are run committed team. I like TO/R. Williams/Witten but our offensive line is built to run and wear teams down. It is kind of hard to work on a defensive line when you are in a constant backpeddle trying to get in a pass pro set. The entire team needs to do some soul searching but the offensive side and special teams need to do extra.

In the NFL you win consistently by winning two of the three keep match ups between Defense, Offense, and Special Teams. For the more part the defense took care of their responsibilities and contributed effectively. Getting rid of Bruce is a good start but Red better take notice because his play calling needs a great deal of improvement if we are going to get over the December hump.

Good post! I just wonder if the rest of the league caught up with Garrett.

 

[ddh33]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

 

[adbutcher]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

This I can agree with. Murphy is a motha!

 

[TD-33]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

Winner!

 

[zeromaster]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

If even half of what you say is true, then they were coaching scared, and the season played out the way it should have.

 

[Idgit]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

This is my take, too.

It sure seems like we were in shotgun an awful lot when Romo came back. I wonder if any of the game charters here have any data on that. If there was a good reason for it (ex, Romo's hand), then it could explain a lot about how limited the offensive playbook seemed.

Perhaps it just seemed like we were in shotgun more than usual, though. I'd be interested in seeing data if anyone has it available.

 

[sonnyboy]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

Great post!

Tough to stay positive at a time like this. Season ender was such a shock.

But this organization can't just go and throw out the baby with the bath water.

They need to take 3 or 4 steps back and analyze just *** happened.

As bad as things are, they're not quite as bad as they feel.

This is a very talented team. We have a lot of hard to find pieces in place, ie franchise QB, franchise Passrusher.

Back to the drawing board. Whatever "changes" they plan to make. Approach and philosophy, discipline, work schedule, the need to bring in some new coaching blood to help implement them and change the culture of the team.

 

[chinch]

too many excuses given for Red by jerry and the fans

what excuse do you guys have for the WEEK 4 Skins home loss where we never trailed by more than 7 (until late in the 4th) and were tied or winning at times...

47 THROWING attempts
10 rushes (2 TO, 8 barber, 0 felix)

jason has no accountability to anyone whatsoever

 

[Idgit]

Great post!

Tough to stay positive at a time like this. Season ender was such a shock.

But this organization can't just go and throw out the baby with the bath water.

They need to take 3 or 4 steps back and analyze just *** happened.

As bad as things are, they're not quite as bad as they feel.

This is a very talented team. We have a lot of hard to find pieces in place, ie franchise QB, franchise Passrusher.

Back to the drawing board. Whatever "changes" they plan to make. Approach and philosophy, discipline, work schedule, the need to bring in some new coaching blood to help implement them and change the culture of the team.

I don't even think it's so much 'staying positive' as it is trying to be very accurate about what the problems really were. We had a 16 pt variance in TO differential from last year. That's huge. We had ~30 or so fewer first downs on offense, moving us from the top third of the league to the bottom third. We weren't sustaining drives like we had in the past.

Now, what were the reasons for these problems? No doubt some of it was coaching. Some of it was player execution. Some of it was playing with more backups than we had the year before. A lot of it was being forced into low-percentage situations and then failing accordingly. It's not an easy problem to solve, but gutting the coaching staff, benching the QB, trading the starting RB, blaming the GM: these are all the types of overreactions we need to be careful to avoid if we're going to right the ship next year.

 

[brickman]

Great post!

Tough to stay positive at a time like this. Season ender was such a shock.

But this organization can't just go and throw out the baby with the bath water.

They need to take 3 or 4 steps back and analyze just *** happened.

As bad as things are, they're not quite as bad as they feel.

This is a very talented team. We have a lot of hard to find pieces in place, ie franchise QB, franchise Passrusher.

Back to the drawing board. Whatever "changes" they plan to make. Approach and philosophy, discipline, work schedule, the need to bring in some new coaching blood to help implement them and change the culture of the team.

Plain and simple ... IT IS FRUSTRATION!!!! Watching the playoffs when the 'Boys have the talent to be there, just hurts.

 

[RoadRunner]

I still don't think any of the reasons for coaching scared are what caused the problems. Garrett was simply exposed for not having much experience. Coaching scared, and thus calling three wide shot guns too damn much don't explain the avoidance of the bread n butter receiver routes like slants. It also doesn't explain Garrett's patent refusal to use automatic plays like the QB sneak in inches to go situations.

 

[Slashar00]

It seems to me that all those new plays they devised were to adjust to what the teams were doing to Garrett's offense.

What happened? We saw Romo throw to empty parts of the field because it was too much crap to learn every week. It's like Garret is grasping at straws. Well, I'm in no mood to see some guy learn on the job with this team.

Bad, bad, bad hire, Jerry.

 

[brickman]

It seems to me that all those new plays they devised were to adjust to what the teams were doing to Garrett's offense.

What happened? We saw Romo throw to empty parts of the field because it was too much crap to learn every week. It's like Garret is grasping at straws. Well, I'm in no mood to see some guy learn on the job with this team.

Bad, bad, bad hire, Jerry.

You are exactly right! This team had too much talent to have a mad scientist approach calling the offensive plays. Pure and simple JG is just not experienced enough. He came in and did a good job initially. Then like most rookies he hit the wall (2nd season) and it's going to take time to learn on the job.

 

[sonnyboy]

You are exactly right! This team had too much talent to have a mad scientist approach calling the offensive plays. Pure and simple JG is just not experienced enough. He came in and did a good job initially. Then like most rookies he hit the wall (2nd season) and it's going to take time to learn on the job.

I'm affraid Sparano had much to do with his success last year.

I've found myself blaming the absence of Sparano for a lot of went wrong this year. It just seems to fit. And it has little to do with his success in Miami.

From what I piece-mailed together the last two years:

It seems to me that Sparano was a strong voice on this team in 2007. He kept a good bit of what we did under Parcels in place. Rules/Routine.
I believe he was the co-offensive coordinator last year, in addition to Assistant HC and O-line coach.
So he had his hands in a lot last year. Perhaps more than most of us realized.

I would love to know just exactly what he did in his capacity as co-offensive coordinator.
I'll go out on a limb and speculate he did a lot in the area of scouting the opposing defense. Logical assumption to me given this is probably our biggest failing in 2008.

 

[sonnyboy]

We're not changing the HC and part of me agrees with that decision.

The only way I see the Cowboys effecting any real change is to bring in some new assistant coaches/consultants.

They can analyze this to death and come up with a plan of action. OK we're going to do this this this and this differently.

No that's good and it will help. But if it we're implemented with a few new voices, I believe it would carry more weight.

 

[MONT17]

does Romo know how to read a defense? because if he did he would see Garrretts play call will not work b4 the snap, that is Romos job! Romo has the ability to change the play anytime he wants just like Manning, so is he not changing Garretts plays or is he not changing Garretts plays enough?




Maybe this is why the Colts waited so long b4 Peyton won his first playoff game...

 

[adbutcher]

does Romo know how to read a defense? because if he did he would see Garrretts play call will not work b4 the snap, that is Romos job! Romo has the ability to change the play anytime he wants just like Manning, so is he not changing Garretts plays or is he not changing Garretts plays enough?




Maybe this is why the Colts waited so long b4 Peyton won his first playoff game...

Don't be fool with all of Manning's gyrations during the presnap. He is just executing a check with me system like the majority of the QBs in the NFL. He just dresses it up better.

 

[alancdc]

The skinny post, slants, outs, and out-and-up, what happen to these routes? What happen to our power running game?

In my opinion we operated too much out of the shotgun and we incorporated too many spread offense philosophies into the timing base offensive system. For example, when you bunch our big WRs in a trips open look it plays to the strength of the defense because the bunch is typically reserved for smaller quicker WRs.

Currently, I am disappointed in Red and if he doesn't leave for a HC gig, I hope he gets back to what made the timing base offense so effective. Also, Wade had better keep Red's ego in check and make sure that we are run committed team. I like TO/R. Williams/Witten but our offensive line is built to run and wear teams down. It is kind of hard to work on a defensive line when you are in a constant backpeddle trying to get in a pass pro set. The entire team needs to do some soul searching but the offensive side and special teams need to do extra.

In the NFL you win consistently by winning two of the three keep match ups between Defense, Offense, and Special Teams. For the more part the defense took care of their responsibilities and contributed effectively. Getting rid of Bruce is a good start but Red better take notice because his play calling needs a great deal of improvement if we are going to get over the December hump.

Totally agree especially with the 1st sentence.

 

[Arch Stanton]

They might have been in the shotgun more than usual to protect Romo and his hand.

They might have been not running the ball as often because the team was down to their third string rookie RB. While Choice played well, I wonder if they were worried about using him too much since they didn't have anyone to give him a breather.

They might have passed the ball too much because a star receiver whined and cried, and the owner and head coach seemed to agree with him.

They might have still been okay but the offensive line was banged up and couldn't protect the QB.

It was just a wierd, disappointing year, and I don't even know how much you can take from it. I don't think everyone is this bad. I think this was more of a perfect storm type of things with a front-running team that doesn't handle adversity all that well.

Good post. I really hope we get to see a three headed monster next season.

Three fit running backs playing some smash mouth NFC East football. Make those big Linemen earn their $$$$'s.

TO can cry all he likes!