What happened to Dak?

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.
Some fans treated his first season as if he was a instant HOF and others treated his other seasons as if he was a horrible QB.

Neither is true and that's common among fans.
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.

Big part was the OLine was better. Had a lot more clean pockets. Teams not having a year of tape on him helped. The defenses were also not calling out our play at the line of scrimmage.
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.
I saw that same guy from 16 the last 6plus games of the season..what happened to you to make you sa bitter hater, oh..i know get some help with that..he played strong to finish the season..so hes not elite who is but I know one thing , hes your QB and you cant change that adding to the 250 already dak hate posts..but you needed your own, feel any better?
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.
:facepalm::oldcouple:
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.
Give me a break.
 

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2016 had his best oline + weaknesses were unknown

Dak did absolutely no favors for his line in 2018 and thus people would rather blame that entire unit and coaching than question Daks progression and ability to read defenses pre/post-snap
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.
A couple of thoughts here:

1. Beginners often perform better than intermediates because paradoxically they don't know as much and therefore don't process as much and so they just do it. So the "sophomore slump" is actually an indication of learning rather than character flaws. We have even heard Dak say that he knows way more now then he did his rookie year. It takes time for that knowledge to become automatic, and in my opinion I think we were starting to see Dak turn the corner.

2. His rookie year defenses didn't know to take away the center of the field and force Dak to throw to the outside. Dak killed teams with Witten and Beasely because they were off worrying about Dez, which is who Romo would have killed him with. Dak's relative inaccuracy showed up most 10-20 yards downfield near the sidelines and suddenly there was discussion of Dez, Witten, and Beasley all "declining" in the same year. But really Dak's struggles year 2 can be attributed almost entirely to defenses forcing him to play to his weaknesses. The absence of Zeke and no depth at OL exacerbated these issues whereas in contrast to his rookie year he had an incredible OL and running game all year and defenses allowed him to play to his strengths in the middle of the field.

3. Enter year 3 and the plan going in appeared to be to throw more go-routes to force defenses to defend the whole field again and to create some space in the middle. Dak had shown that he can throw the go route and we absolutely needed to find a way to create space in the middle of the field for the passing game. His first TD pass in preseason was a go route. In practice this wasn't a great plan. Go routes are low probability despite attempts from the front office to add speed on the outside. We just couldn't throw enough of those to force teams out of clogging the middle of the field, and honestly the OL wasn't providing the time needed to allow those routes to develop.

So that plan gets scratched mid-season and we trade for Cooper. Here is when we start to see Dak's development because my fear was that his connection with Cooper would be no better than his with Dez. But that proved incorrect and more importantly we were able to see that Dak has improved his ability to throw to the sidelines. Two huge games by Cooper finally forced defenses to start to play more honest and protect against the big play.

So now Cooper "disappears" for a few games, but surprise, Jarwin and Beasley start impacting games. The center of the field is opening up again and it appears that Dak's knowledge is starting to become more automatic rather than thoughtful because we saw signs of anticipation near the end of the year.

I personally would like to see Dak put it all together next year before giving him a big contract, but from where I am sitting I have moved from being very concerned about Dak's abilities to believing we saw him start to turn the corner. A healthy OL next year, a weapon at TE, and my dream of using the Rams scheme and I think the offense will be in good shape.
 

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3rd string QB that few had enough film on and he wasn't asked to do as much at the line. He had the top rusher and top 3 healthy OL and DC's were not able to gear up against the type O he was running as few NFL teams ran that.

His unbelievable rookie season is why he's not getting much slack now from many here. He is still a young QB and was a 4th rounder for a reason.

One thing that not enough are cutting him slack on is his missing Center, the smartest guy in his draft class. Yosemite's mind is a terrific advantage for a young QB and he really missed that this past season.

I do not know his upside but I do think he's been jerked around too much. One week, he's using his legs and he's very good at that, and the next week he's a captive of the pocket. He is who he is, let him be that. DC's would like nothing better than for the Cowboys to keep him from running. QB's have to play their game, if there's a risk, so be it. More of them are injured getting hammered in the pocket when they can't protect themselves.
 

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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.

Lets see. To start out with the Cowboys started the season with a 40% change on the O-line and then Smith missed games so then there was a 60% change to that 2016 line. Elliott waasn't the same back because of fighting the suspension for so long and his numbers weren't as good along with that 60% change on the line. Bryant lead the league in drops and throwing tantrums on the sidelines for not getting the ball more. The usually sure handed Beasley also dropped more passes in 2017 than he did in the previous 2 seasons. The defense had injuries all year including their best defensive player Lee so the Cowboys seldom got good starting field position. All in all I say the O-line and Bryant were the biggest problem on why things went so bad in 2017.
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Although I still love Dak and think that he can still grow, why was he so good his rookie season? Or should I say, why was he so "overrated" in his rookie season? Him and Zeke were both powerhouses and they both were the duo to beat in 2016, but, after that, Dak went downhill. Zeke stayed the same (AKA, a great RB). What happened? The coaching? Tony Romo leaving? I don't understand how our opinions and way of play changed so quickly.

You dont really know football huh?


And lol at claiming Zeke has remained the same as his rookie year
 

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I`d say, nothing happened to Dak, he is what he is, an avg QB who had a great rookie season because nobody knew him and had a great offense around him, he had a bad 2017 season when everything was not as great and had an avg 2018 season, I`d say that`s par for the course.
 

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I`d say, nothing happened to Dak, he is what he is, an avg QB who had a great rookie season because nobody knew him and had a great offense, he had a bad 2017 season when everything was not as great and had an avg 2018 season, I`d say that`s par for the course.

Agreed, but I'd change it to above average QB as I see him in the 12-15 range, and on an upward trend.
 

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You dont really know football huh?


And lol at claiming Zeke has remained the same as his rookie year


Thanks for sharing this. That sacks/game is just brutal. The video somebody posted last week showed how bad that OL was. Collins is an absolute scrub in pass protection. Smith needs to rediscover practice again. T play was terrible considering the pedigree.
 
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