What I learned last night

[LatinMind]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

 

[casmith07]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

There wasn't really a lot out there this year, but I agree somewhat. Problem is, as soon as we do that, the players get ripped.

 

[LatinMind]

There wasn't really a lot out there this year, but I agree somewhat. Problem is, as soon as we do that, the players get ripped.

Yeah its thin out there. But cuts are coming. They need to be buyers

 

[JBS]

You guys must not be familiar w our cap status this previous offseason.. We signed the only guys we could afford..

 

[JBS]

Yeah its thin out there. But cuts are coming. They need to be buyers

Nobody worth a heck, that is going to demand actual big dollars is going to get cut

 

[Bluestang]

1. Greg Hardy (Re-signed one-year, $13.116M deal with CAR)
2. Michael Johnson (Signed five-year, $43.75M deal with TB)
3. Lamarr Houston (Signed five-year, $35M deal with CHI)
4. Michael Bennett (Re-signed four-year, $32M deal with SEA)
5. Arthur Jones (Signed five-year, $33M deal with IND)

6. Everson Griffen (Re-signed five-year, $42.5M deal with MIN)
7. Julius Peppers (Signed three-year, $30M deal with GB)
8. Jared Allen (Signed four-year, $32M deal with CHI)
9. Justin Tuck (Signed two-year, $11M deal with OAK)
10. Antonio Smith (Signed two-year, $9M deal with OAK)

11. Red Bryant (Signed four-year, $19M deal with JAX)
12. Corey Wootton (Signed one-year, $1.5M deal with MIN)

13. Robert Ayers (Signed two-year, $3.75M deal with NYG)
14. Tyson Jackson (Signed five-year, $25M deal with ATL)

15. Jason Babin (Re-signed three-year, $7M deal with JAX)

16. Chris Clemons (Signed four-year, $17.5M deal with JAX)
17. Anthony Spencer
18. Willie Young (Signed three-year, $9M deal with CHI)
19. Jeremy Mincey (Signed two-year, $4.5M deal with DAL)

20. Will Smith

21. Brett Keisel
22. Matt Shaughnessy (Re-signed two-year, $4.4M deal with ARZ)
23. Ricardo Mathews (Signed one-year, $730K deal with HOU)
24. Adam Carriker
25. Marcus Benard (Re-signed one-year, $740K deal with ARZ)
26. Jason Hunter
27. Israel Idonije (Signed one-year, $955K deal with CHI)
28. Keyunta Dawson (Re-signed one-year, $855K deal with NO)
29. Andre Carter
30. Frostee Rucker (Re-signed two-year, $2.145M deal with ARZ)


Defensive Tackles

1. Henry Melton (Signed four-year, $29M deal with DAL)
2. Linval Joseph (Signed five-year, $31.5M deal with MIN)
3. B.J. Raji (Re-signed one-year, $4M deal with GB)
4. Jason Hatcher (Signed four-year, $27.5M deal with WAS)
5. Randy Starks (Re-signed two-year, $12M deal with MIA)
6. Paul Soliai (Signed five-year, $33M deal with ATL)
7. Clinton McDonald (Signed four-year, $12M deal with TB)
8. Jonathan Babineaux (Re-signed three-year, $9M deal with ATL)
9. Kevin Williams
10. Alex Carrington (Signed one-year, $1.5M deal with STL)
11. Pat Sims (Re-signed one-year, $1.45M deal with OAK)
12. Earl Mitchell (Signed four-year, $16M deal with MIA)
13. Vance Walker (Signed three-year, $13M deal with KC)

14. Tony McDaniel (Re-signed two-year, $5.75M deal with SEA)
15. Corey Peters (Re-signed one-year, $1.5M deal with ATL)
16. Ziggy Hood (Signed four-year, $16M deal with JAX)
17. Ryan Pickett
18. Ropati Pitoitua (Re-signed three-year, $9.6M deal with TEN)
19. Fred Evans (Re-signed one-year, $1M deal with MIN)
20. Jay Ratliff (Re-signed two-year, $4M deal with CHI)
21. Mike Patterson (Re-signed one-year, $920K deal with NYG)
22. Terrence Cody (Re-signed one-year, $730K deal with BAL)
23. Johnny Jolly
24. Fili Moala (Re-signed one-year, $1.4M deal with IND)
25. Peria Jerry (Re-signed one-year, $890K deal with ATL)
26. Cam Thomas (Signed two-year, $4M deal with PIT)

27. Tom Johnson (Signed one-year, $845K deal with MIN)
28. Clifton Geathers (Signed two-year, $3.2M deal with WAS)
29. Nate Collins (Re-signed one-year, $730,001 deal with CHI)
30. Chris Baker (Re-signed three-year, $9M deal with WAS)
31. Al Woods (Signed two-year, $5M deal with TEN)
32. Colin Cole (Re-signed one-year, $1.125M deal with CAR)
33. Aubrayo Franklin
34. Leger Douzable (Re-signed one-year, $1M deal with NYJ)
35. Isaac Sopoaga
36. Gary Gibson
37. Kyle Love
38. Antonio Johnson (Re-signed two-year, $2.35M deal with TEN)
39. Letroy Guion (Signed one-year, $985K deal with GB)
40. Terrell McClain (Signed three-year, $3.05M deal with DAL)

 

[Setackin]

I think this off season was bout cutting fat and controlling the cap... next off season I expect the front office to spend.

 

[LatinMind]

You guys must not be familiar w our cap status this previous offseason.. We signed the only guys we could afford..

Dallas has always made room for cap. There is no cap situation with this team. The make their contracts with this in mind. The Jones' have been telling people this for yrs. But they just think theyre stupid. Take Tyrons contract. They have 30 mil in money they can restructure.

 

[casmith07]

Yeah its thin out there. But cuts are coming. They need to be buyers

We should with the cuts. I think the Lawrence injury hurts big time too. And ideally if someone does go down, they're stepping in at, say, DT next to Crawford, Melton, and Selvie or Mincey. I think we'll be in better shape come Week 1.

 

[LatinMind]

We should with the cuts. I think the Lawrence injury hurts big time too. And ideally if someone does go down, they're stepping in at, say, DT next to Crawford, Melton, and Selvie or Mincey. I think we'll be in better shape come Week 1.

Dallas needs that pass rusher on the weakside. Thats theyre biggest weakness. Lawrence isnt going to do anything this yr. That broken foot ruined his yr. So they need to sign somebody to get back some of that.

 

[Bluestang]

Truth be told, the "cap guru" - Stephen Jones, has screwed this team with contracts time after time.

We went to the bargain bin for OL years ago, and now we are doing the same with the DL.

Build through the draft? Not so fast, when we are trading up to get one player.

When this front office understands that this team is more than one player away from legitimately competing in the NFL, and they can focus their efforts on the trenches then maybe the ship will be righted.

 

[waving monkey]

I read they have 11mil in space.
they have Dez to sign and Murray if they intend to.
I know that's enough room first year but what about
the following year? just a question

 

[waving monkey]

Truth be told, the "cap guru" - Stephen Jones, has screwed this team with contracts time after time.

We went to the bargain bin for OL years ago, and now we are doing the same with the DL.

Build through the draft? Not so fast, when we are trading up to get one player.

When this front office understands that this team is more than one player away from legitimately competing in the NFL, and they can focus their efforts on the trenches then maybe the ship will be righted.

It appears [reportedly] that S.Jones is the reason we're cleaning up the past contract plunders.

 

[Bluestang]

Dallas has always made room for cap. There is no cap situation with this team. The make their contracts with this in mind. The Jones' have been telling people this for yrs. But they just think theyre stupid. Take Tyrons contract. They have 30 mil in money they can restructure.

This is the main problem with the way that contracts are structured that Stephen is putting together.

When they restructure, they are adding money to the players original signing bonus, which adds more dead money to future years.

Basically they lessen the cap hit for that current year, but the catch is that future years cost more to cut or keep the player.

 

[LatinMind]

I read they have 11mil in space.
they have Dez to sign and Murray if they intend to.
I know that's enough room first year but what about
the following year? just a question

Dez first yr on his contract will be next yr. in 2016 they have 35mil in caproom as of right now.

 

[Bluestang]

It appears [reportedly] that S.Jones is the reason we're cleaning up the past contract plunders.

It appears that way because they lessen the cap hit for the current year but then it adds more money to future years making those cap hits higher.

Eventually, once you decide to cut ties with the player it counts against cap more than the original deal was set for.

Dallas can does this because they have the money upfront to pay the player, whereas as JAX or CLE isn't going to have that kind of money per se.

 

[CCBoy]

Nice and developing thread, gentlemen. I'm learning to more quickly identify a stage of a growth period in development and toning down the emotional outbursts that were once a tendency when watching the tellie.

 

[ConstantReboot]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

The main problem is NOT only a new system but a lot of rookies and 2nd year players. Remember, we were 3-4 just two years ago. We have totally revamped our front 7 and people are expecting miracles to happen in the first preseason game. It ain't gonna happen and there will be more makeshift changes and confusion in the weeks to come as we will see this defense start to take hold.

I do believe its time to get rid of the jags. Hayden, Web and those two that we signed for this game comes to mind. Maybe it would be better if we start having better competition in training camp rather than worry about filling in the numbers. This would also give some reps and some playing time to our rookies.

 

[DogFace]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

Ummm. On point.
You are good. Unlike some of the others.
Very real and accurate, IMO, observation.

Hope for improvement.

 

[speedkilz88]

Wilson was picked up last year during the season.

Bush is a UDFA pickup who first came with only a tryout.