What I learned last night

[Dodger12]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

You draft for depth and fill in some holes with FA. You don't build a team with FA's. We've not been very good at drafting after our top picks and we trade away too many draft picks to move up.

 

[Bluestang]

Here an example with Austin's contract:

When they restructured him for $4M, that amount went to future years.

So when he was designated a June 1 cut he counts $2.7494M this year against us and $5.1062M next year. (2.7494+5.1062 = 7.8556)

Whereas if Dallas opted not to restructure him, he would have only counted $3.8556M against the cap if he were cut.

Again, Dallas chose to restructure his contract because we were over the cap in 2013.

Poor financial decisions lead to more blunders, but yet Stephen is continually praised for his savvy with contracts?

 

[CF74]

I thought Melton was on a 1 yr option show me something first type of deal? Now it's 4 years???

 

[jday]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

There is only so much money you can spend on players with a cap and the Cowboys also have to think about resigning the star players they already have like Demarco Murray and Dez Bryant. The other point is guy's with names are on the street for a reason. Granted, sometimes Free Agent's can come in and be great additions to the team. Other times they prove to be a liability on the field and against the cap. The ideal situation is to foster a team environment where you can get more out of less, which is what the Cowboys are hoping to do this year.

Lastly, we need to keep in mind it's still just preseason and that was game 1 where several key starters where sitting out. The regular season will be the ultimate judge of how the Cowboys did this past offseason.

 

[Wolfpack]

Here an example with Austin's contract:

When they restructured him for $4M, that amount went to future years.

So when he was designated a June 1 cut he counts $2.7494M this year against us and $5.1062M next year. (2.7494+5.1062 = 7.8556)

Whereas if Dallas opted not to restructure him, he would have only counted $3.8556M against the cap if he were cut.

Again, Dallas chose to restructure his contract because we were over the cap in 2013.

Poor financial decisions lead to more blunders, but yet Stephen is continually praised for his savvy with contracts?

Stephen must have left his salary cap calculator on the hooker bus. Hard to be planning ahead when you are trashed most of the time. What a fraud.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This is the main problem with the way that contracts are structured that Stephen is putting together.

When they restructure, they are adding money to the players original signing bonus, which adds more dead money to future years.

Basically they lessen the cap hit for that current year, but the catch is that future years cost more to cut or keep the player.

Gain space now. Pay later with future higher cap lessening the actual hit you take. Is smart.

Need to know when to restructure tho. For instance. We didn't with Brandon.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Here an example with Austin's contract:

When they restructured him for $4M, that amount went to future years.

So when he was designated a June 1 cut he counts $2.7494M this year against us and $5.1062M next year. (2.7494+5.1062 = 7.8556)

Whereas if Dallas opted not to restructure him, he would have only counted $3.8556M against the cap if he were cut.

Again, Dallas chose to restructure his contract because we were over the cap in 2013.

Poor financial decisions lead to more blunders, but yet Stephen is continually praised for his savvy with contracts?

You would have had to pay someone to take his place.

And he was cut because of injury not ability. That stuff happens.

 

[waving monkey]

It appears that way because they lessen the cap hit for the current year but then it adds more money to future years making those cap hits higher.

Eventually, once you decide to cut ties with the player it counts against cap more than the original deal was set for.

Dallas can does this because they have the money upfront to pay the player, whereas as JAX or CLE isn't going to have that kind of money per se.

qoute from Latinmind,"Dez first yr on his contract will be next yr. in 2016 they have 35mil in caproom as of right now."

 

[DFWJC]

Henry Melton was not bargain bin material.
But yes, this team has been strapped lately with the cap and made moves to help that this offseason.
Recall that they also needed to leave room for both Tyron Smirh and Dez....both better than any free agent out there.

 

[Picksix]

I thought Melton was on a 1 yr option show me something first type of deal? Now it's 4 years???

Both. The team has an option to pick up the remaining 3 years of the deal if they're happy with what he shows this year.

 

[lane]

what i learned last night is next year's draft better be strictly front 7 only.

we have the o- line finally solidified...too late for romo to enjoy...but solidified none the less.

 

[waving monkey]

Stephen must have left his salary cap calculator on the hooker bus. Hard to be planning ahead when you are trashed most of the time. What a fraud.

explain the fraud comment

 

[waving monkey]

I think five million for a pro bowl DT is a pretty good deal for the Cowboys
If the doctors give a release with positive report

 

[ConstantReboot]

While Dallas is doing good drafting. They need to open up the pockets and start signing freeagents who will get more then the vet minimum. Guys like Wilson and Bush while they look semi decent in practice for a few plays they are what they are in games, None - **'n - Factors.

What we saw from the first quarter on, is the depth on this team is bad. Some of it is rookies and 2nd yr guys getting to know the system. But they need to stop basement bargain shopping for freeagents. The saying you get what you pay for is a prime example for Dallas.

Correction. Dallas has done great drafting on offense. Putrid to terrible drafting on defense.

Carter and Lee were 2nd rounders that were injury prone risks when we drafted them. Lee especially has not shaken off the injury bug and will probably never be injury free. As for our highest drafted player on defense, Claiborne - well his been injured for two years now and counting and he has bust written all over it. We gave up a 2nd rounder to move up and our ROI has nothing to show for.

Lawrence is also injured and we are just unlucky in his case.Yet again, we gave up a 3rd on a deep draft where we could have other prospects that could have contributed this year. This is on top of us drafting a glass cannon Matt Johnson in the 4th round who is still part of this team and has not contributed one bit.

Oh boy, I can go on and on. I consider ourselves unlucky with drafting defensive players. Maybe its just our training that we put these guys through. But its also not smart when we draft players that have a history of injuries like Lee, or constantly trade up on players that have marginally 1st round talent such as Claiborne. You get what you ask for. This is why our defense is like this.

 

[Zordon]

depth is bad b/c the idiot jones clan keeps trading 2 players for 1 player in drafts. they truly believe they are right around the corner from a super bowl.

 

[Beast_from_East]

depth is bad b/c the idiot jones clan keeps trading 2 players for 1 player in drafts. they truly believe they are right around the corner from a super bowl.

We should have been trading down and getting extra picks, that is what you do when you have poor depth.

Trading up for 1 impact player is what you do if you are 1 or 2 guys away from a SB run.................that clearly is not us.

 

[CCBoy]

We should have been trading down and getting extra picks, that is what you do when you have poor depth.

Trading up for 1 impact player is what you do if you are 1 or 2 guys away from a SB run.................that clearly is not us.

This year, the first three rounds were a target area...but to the Cowboys' credit, they targeted two very strong players, yet attempted to trade a next year pick to get into the third round to get the guard from LSU. They tried just what would produce for them.

 

[CCBoy]

depth is bad b/c the idiot jones clan keeps trading 2 players for 1 player in drafts. they truly believe they are right around the corner from a super bowl.

Claiborne and Lawrence...two pretty good moves!

 

[noshame]

Not to worry, Tony will retire and return a large portion of his signing bonus, taking one for the team.

 

[conner01]

Truth be told, the "cap guru" - Stephen Jones, has screwed this team with contracts time after time.

We went to the bargain bin for OL years ago, and now we are doing the same with the DL.

Build through the draft? Not so fast, when we are trading up to get one player.

When this front office understands that this team is more than one player away from legitimately competing in the NFL, and they can focus their efforts on the trenches then maybe the ship will be righted.

seems like we have been focusing on the trenches unless you only consider the defensive side of the trenches important. you choose quanity over quality. they chose quality over quanity. those trade ups also brought us some pretty good players too.
the biggest issues we've had over the years has been trading for players like roy williams. that trade was a huge setback for the team. you can blame s. jones for signing him but once you gave up the farm to get him you had no option but sign him. the bad decision was not the contract but the trade, which by the way the vast malority of fans whole heartedly supported