What if Marshawn Lynch drops to 22...

[adamknite]

see sig

Needs more cowbell.

 

[InmanRoshi]

In a heartbeat. Goose said he's not going to make it out of the top 15, so if you get a Top 15 talent at #22, you pull the trigger. Especially when our current starter at the position is mediocre, coming up on a contract year and in likelihood won't be resigned.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Auhhh..... no. Emmitt Smith was far from an agreed upon lock when he was drafted. He went 17th in the draft and we moved up to get him there. That's not a lock pick IMO.

Lock at what? Being a HoFer? Nobody hands that out on draft day. It was a lock that he was going to be drafted and drafted in the first round. (You wouldn't trade up if you didn't think so!) Emmitt went 17th which is where Lynch is expected to go.

First round running backs.

• Reggie Bush (freak)
• Laurence Maroney
• DeAngelo Williams
• Joseph Addai
• Ronnie Brown
• Cedric Benson
• Cadillac Williams
• Steven Jackson
• Chris Perry
• Kevin Jones
• Willis McGahee
• Larry Johnson
• William Green
• T.J. Duckett
• LaDainian Tomlinson (freak)
• Deuce McAllister
• Michael Bennett
• Jamal Lewis
• Thomas Jones
• Ron Dayne
• Shaun Alexander
• Trung Canidate
• Edgerrin James
• Ricky Williams
• Curtis Enis
• Fred Taylor
• Robert Edwards
• John Avery
• Warrick Dunn
• Antowain Smith
• Lawrence Phillips
• Tim Biakabutuka
• Ki-Jana Carter
• Tyrone Wheatley
• Napoleon Kaufman
• James Stewart
• Rashaan Salaam

Ignore those in blue as they were rookies last year and haven't had time to prove themselves yet. Now, you will see many backs in this list that have put up great numbers.

Of all the great backs listed (and there arn't many that have put up numbers consistantly) how many were not drafted top 10?

• Stephen Jackson (24th)
• Shawne Alexander (19th)
• Larry Johnson (27th)
• Deuce McAllister (23rd)
• Warrick Dunn (12th)

5 of the 33 turned out to be consistantly good backs and weren't drafted in the top 10. (15% hit rate) You are far better off drafting another position. There are many backs that come out of the later rounds too. This came out during that same time span, just not in the first round.

• Frank Gore (3rd)
• Tatum Bell (2nd)
• Julies Jones (2nd)
• Maurice Jones-Drew (2nd)
• Clinton Portis (2nd)
• Brian Westbrook (3rd)
• Rudi Johnson (4th)
• Tiki Barber (2nd)
• Corey Dillon (2nd)
• Mike Alstott (2nd)
• Sherman Williams (2nd) haha just kidding!

 

[Yeagermeister]

Trade out and keep Julius

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Lock at what? Being a HoFer? Nobody hands that out on draft day. It was a lock that he was going to be drafted and drafted in the first round. (You wouldn't trade up if you didn't think so!) Emmitt went 17th which is where Lynch is expected to go.

First round running backs.

• Reggie Bush (freak)
• Laurence Maroney
• DeAngelo Williams
• Joseph Addai
• Ronnie Brown
• Cedric Benson
• Cadillac Williams
• Steven Jackson
• Chris Perry
• Kevin Jones
• Willis McGahee
• Larry Johnson
• William Green
• T.J. Duckett
• LaDainian Tomlinson (freak)
• Deuce McAllister
• Michael Bennett
• Jamal Lewis
• Thomas Jones
• Ron Dayne
• Shaun Alexander
• Trung Canidate
• Edgerrin James
• Ricky Williams
• Curtis Enis
• Fred Taylor
• Robert Edwards
• John Avery
• Warrick Dunn
• Antowain Smith
• Lawrence Phillips
• Tim Biakabutuka
• Ki-Jana Carter
• Tyrone Wheatley
• Napoleon Kaufman
• James Stewart
• Rashaan Salaam

Ignore those in blue as they were rookies last year and haven't had time to prove themselves yet. Now, you will see many backs in this list that have put up great numbers.

Of all the great backs listed (and there arn't many that have put up numbers consistantly) how many were not drafted top 10?

• Stephen Jackson (24th)
• Shawne Alexander (19th)
• Larry Johnson (27th)
• Deuce McAllister (23rd)
• Warrick Dunn (12th)

5 of the 33 turned out to be consistantly good backs and weren't drafted in the top 10. (15% hit rate) You are far better off drafting another position. There are many backs that come out of the later rounds too. This came out during that same time span, just not in the first round.

• Frank Gore (3rd)
• Tatum Bell (2nd)
• Julies Jones (2nd)
• Maurice Jones-Drew (2nd)
• Clinton Portis (2nd)
• Brian Westbrook (3rd)
• Rudi Johnson (4th)
• Tiki Barber (2nd)
• Corey Dillon (2nd)
• Mike Alstott (2nd)
• Sherman Williams (2nd) haha just kidding!

JJT just had an question answer segmant that spoke to this. Basically, he said that if Emmitt would not have been drafted by the Cowboys but instead, went to a different offense, he probably wouldn't have been a HOF back. Emmitt himself said that Norv Turner made him a HOF back because he gave him a chance to produce in an offense friendly to him.

The problem with all of what your posting here is that we are picking at 22. Any player you take at that pick is not going to be a sure thing. That's what happens when you pick towards the end of the draft (which is why I believe Pittsburgh and NE are probably the two best drafting teams in the NFL). Basically, if Lynch is the best player on the board at 22, and you can't trade down, you take him.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Should we take him????

Yes. He might be rated one of a few legit 1st-round talents in this year's draft by many draft "experts" so if he's at the top of the Cowboys' board then they have to take him. He could be an excellent back in the NFL.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, I think he has a good chance at being an elite RB

 

[dbair1967]

In that James was in a contract year himself and the Colts figured to draft a RB with there pick last year. I mean, it's not like Addai was the only RB on the board for the Colts. Reggie Bush, Laurance Maroney, DeAngelo Williams, Joseph Addai, LenDale White, Maurice Drew, all went in the first two rounds of last years draft. I mean, it's not as if the Colts didn't know there would be a good talented back available for them when they picked. Come on David, your making this to much like rocket science here.

Besides, Lynch kind reminds me of Addai.

James was already gone, he had signed with Arizona before the draft...everybody knew the Colts had to get a RB, which is why they took Addai. Bush, Maroney and Williams were all picked before the Colts drafted, they had no chance to pick them...

Addai is faster than Lynch I think, and he's also a better blocker and receiver

David

 

[YosemiteSam]

The problem with all of what your posting here is that we are picking at 22. Any player you take at that pick is not going to be a sure thing. That's what happens when you pick towards the end of the draft (which is why I believe Pittsburgh and NE are probably the two best drafting teams in the NFL). Basically, if Lynch is the best player on the board at 22, and you can't trade down, you take him.

Exactly, and you are more likely to be able to pull a good RB out of the second round than you are to find one at the bottom of the first. (they are a freak, or they are not #1 RBs) You *are* more likely to pull talent out of the bottom of the first round at positions other than RB.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Marshawn is a 1st round back. The kid is pretty damn good. He's nowhere near the "freak" that Peterson is, but he is also far less injury prone

 

[CowboyMike]

If he's the best player on the Cowboys' board, take him.

I wanna see what Julius can do, but Lynch can be a good one.

 

[dbair1967]

I wanna see what Julius can do, but Lynch can be a good one.

so can JuJo

guys dont have multiple games with 150+ yds unless they have some special qualities...it can probably happen once in a blue moon fo some backs (see Timmy Smith, even Troy Hambrick once) but if you have 4 or 5 games like Julius has had, you have some special qualities

better blocker= better results

we have not had a good run blocking OL for several years

David

 

[Danny White]

Even though I think Lynch is only average, this whole conversation is moot because he simply won't be there when we pick.

The Browns, Vikings, Texans, Bills, Packers, Titans, Giants, and Broncos are all candidates to take a running back in the first round and all pick before us. With only two guys viewed as worthy of the first round, you have to think that both Peterson and Lynch will be long gone by the time we pick.

I don't see him making it past the Packers, and if he does, there's no way he makes it past the Giants.

 

[CowboyMike]

so can JuJo

guys dont have multiple games with 150+ yds unless they have some special qualities...it can probably happen once in a blue moon fo some backs (see Timmy Smith, even Troy Hambrick once) but if you have 4 or 5 games like Julius has had, you have some special qualities

better blocker= better results

we have not had a good run blocking OL for several years

David

Oh I totally agree with you. I truly believe Julius can truly be a great back this year if they remove the chains that Parcells had on him. I've been a defender of Julius through the years.

But if Lynch is there, and he is the best player at the time on the board, take him. I'm a believer in taking the best player available.

 

[BlueStar II]

If Lynch were there, I wouldn't mind seeing us take him, but I don't see how he'll get past Green Bay when they pick. Considering Green Bay's need at RB, I just don't see Lynch getting past Green Bay and making it down to us at #22.

 

[carphalen5150]

You absolutely take him. He would definitely be the best player on the board and if you watched any Cal games this year you would see how explosive he is. Bring him in and figure out what to do with him later, but I would not pass on a back of his caliber.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

James was already gone, he had signed with Arizona before the draft...everybody knew the Colts had to get a RB, which is why they took Addai. Bush, Maroney and Williams were all picked before the Colts drafted, they had no chance to pick them...

Addai is faster than Lynch I think, and he's also a better blocker and receiver

David

Not really. Both are 4.4 guys, both are 5-11, Addai was 214 coming out, Lynch is 217.

Addai rushed for 2577 yards, 5.3 YPC, 18 rushing TDs, caught 66 passes for 641 yards 5 TDs while at LSU.

Lynch rushed for 3230 yards, 6.6 YPC, 29 rushing TDs, caught 68 passes for 600 yards 6 TDs while at Cal.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Exactly, and you are more likely to be able to pull a good RB out of the second round than you are to find one at the bottom of the first. (they are a freak, or they are not #1 RBs) You *are* more likely to pull talent out of the bottom of the first round at positions other than RB.

What? That's crazy. Bottom line, if he's the best player on our board and we can't trade down, then you take him.

 

[dalboy]

I'll probally sound stupid but who is he where is he from how good is he and how could he help us.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I can scarcely think of another player in recent memory who gets such a free ride from Cowboy fans as Julius Jones does. Bradie James needs to ask Julius who his publicist is, seeing as he gets completely buried alive for his mediocrity while Julius gets a lifetime free pass.