What if Marshawn Lynch drops to 22...

[scrives]

Should we take him????

 

[Avery]

I say yes.

I think Marshawn can be a Pro-Bowl back in this league. With JJ's uncertainty and propensity for injuries and Barber being a great change of pace back, he would fit in nicely with this team.

 

[Danny White]

I don't think so. Lynch is only being considered so high because of the relative lack of quality backs in this year's draft.

He's nothing special. We have a lot more pressing needs in than adding another average running back.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If he's the best player on the board and you can't trade out of the pick, then yes, you trade him and move JJ down the line. Would actually be a smart move IMO because JJ is coming up on a contract. Would take away a lot of leverage if you had him here. A move like this reminds me a lot of the Addai pick last year.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Should we take him????

Hell no. If the RB isn't a freak of nature, then he is a second round RB tops. Peterson is the only RB in the draft that is first round worthy.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hell no. If the RB isn't a freak of nature, then he is a second round RB tops. Peterson is the only RB in the draft that is first round worthy.

Hold on now. Emmitt wasn't anything near a freak of nature but we moved up to take him and I'm happy we did. Had we not done that, no 3 championships in 4 years.

 

[adamknite]

Depends. Would the pick be because he is an upgrade over Julies or would it be because he was the best player on the board? Is he really an upgrade over JuJo?

There's an old saying if something isn't broke, don't fix it. So would Lynch be brought in because the Boys feel like the RB system they have now isn't working or would they be trying to upgrade a system that is already doing pretty good.?

Our 2-back system got 1700 and 19 rushing TDs last year. That's pretty good if you ask me. Remember Lynch isn't a lock at being better than JuJo, suppose we draft Lynch and dump julies and Lynch ends up producing less than Julies now what? Draft another 1st round RB? I'm not first round picks shouldn't be spent because they might be a bust, but if you're going to draft a player who plays a position that you're already pretty deep at in the first, then you better be sure he's going to be an improvement.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Hold on now. Emmitt wasn't anything near a freak of nature but we moved up to take him and I'm happy we did. Had we not done that, no 3 championships in 4 years.

Yeah, and Joe Montana was drafted in the 3rd round.

• Joe Montana orchestrated a 92-yard game-winning drive in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XXIII.
• Won a National Championship with Notre Dame (1977)
• Passing - 3,409 Completions on 5,391 Attempts for 40,551 Yards and 273 Touchdowns
• Rushing - 457 Carries for 1,676 Yards and 20 Touchdowns
• Two-Time NFL MVP (1989-90)
• Won Four Super Bowls (XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV)
• Only player Named Super Bowl MVP Three Times (XVI, XIX, XXIV)
• All-NFL Three Times
• All-NFC Five Times
• Selected to Eight Pro Bowls
• Orchestrated 31 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
• Led NFL in Passing 5 Times (1981,84,85,87,89)
• Set NFL record with six 300-yard passing performances in the post-season
• Set career playoff record for attempts, completions, touchdowns, and yards gained passing
• Became just the fifth quarterback to pass for more than 40,000 yards in a career
• nducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame (2000)

All that out of a 3rd round draft choice. The problem is this. Everyone knew Emmitt was good and very well expected him to do well it the NFL. He was no secret that only the Cowboys knew about. The problem is, most running backs career depends on the team they play for. Emmitt wouldn't be the all time rushing leader if he had been drafted by the Bucs or Browns. Look around the league. RB that were great one year, stink it up the next. There are very few RBs that dominate their entire career and those that do usually play for the same team. (Look at The Edge. He was very good with the Colts and vanished with the Cardinals) RBs for the most part depend on the teams style of play and offensive line. We can almost pick from a hat in the 2th through 5th round and grab someone that can play with a dominating offensive line.

Now, again I say. If he isn't a freak of nature. He isn't first round worthy. I'll be wrong more than once, but I will be right 50 times more.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Depends. Would the pick be because he is an upgrade over Julies or would it be because he was the best player on the board? Is he really an upgrade over JuJo?

There's an old saying if something isn't broke, don't fix it. So would Lynch be brought in because the Boys feel like the RB system they have now isn't working or would they be trying to upgrade a system that is already doing pretty good.?

Our 2-back system got 1700 and 19 rushing TDs last year. That's pretty good if you ask me. Remember Lynch isn't a lock at being better than JuJo, suppose we draft Lynch and dump julies and Lynch ends up producing less than Julies now what? Draft another 1st round RB? I'm not first round picks shouldn't be spent because they might be a bust, but if you're going to draft a player who plays a position that you're already pretty deep at in the first, then you better be sure he's going to be an improvement.

The only problem with the if it is not broke don't fix it idea is this.

In our case it was the FIRST year that Julius has not been broken sometime in the season.

Just something to consider.

 

[ZeroClub]

Difficult decision. Depends on who else is available.

Can't imagine that he'll be there at #22, given the RB questions of several pre-#22 pick teams (e.g., Bills, Giants, Packers).

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yeah, and Joe Montana was drafted in the 3rd round.

• Joe Montana orchestrated a 92-yard game-winning drive in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XXIII.
• Won a National Championship with Notre Dame (1977)
• Passing - 3,409 Completions on 5,391 Attempts for 40,551 Yards and 273 Touchdowns
• Rushing - 457 Carries for 1,676 Yards and 20 Touchdowns
• Two-Time NFL MVP (1989-90)
• Won Four Super Bowls (XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV)
• Only player Named Super Bowl MVP Three Times (XVI, XIX, XXIV)
• All-NFL Three Times
• All-NFC Five Times
• Selected to Eight Pro Bowls
• Orchestrated 31 Fourth Quarter Comebacks
• Led NFL in Passing 5 Times (1981,84,85,87,89)
• Set NFL record with six 300-yard passing performances in the post-season
• Set career playoff record for attempts, completions, touchdowns, and yards gained passing
• Became just the fifth quarterback to pass for more than 40,000 yards in a career
• nducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame (2000)

All that out of a 3rd round draft choice. The problem is this. Everyone knew Emmitt was good and very well expected him to do well it the NFL. He was no secret that only the Cowboys knew about. The problem is, most running backs career depends on the team they play for. Emmitt wouldn't be the all time rushing leader if he had been drafted by the Bucs or Browns. Look around the league. RB that were great one year, stink it up the next. There are very few RBs that dominate their entire career and those that do usually play for the same team. (Look at The Edge. He was very good with the Colts and vanished with the Cardinals) RBs for the most part depend on the teams style of play and offensive line. We can almost pick from a hat in the 2th through 5th round and grab someone that can play with a dominating offensive line.

Now, again I say. If he isn't a freak of nature. He isn't first round worthy. I'll be wrong more than once, but I will be right 50 times more.

Auhhh..... no. Emmitt Smith was far from an agreed upon lock when he was drafted. He went 17th in the draft and we moved up to get him there. That's not a lock pick IMO. There were a great many teams who felt as if Emmitt was too small, two slow, to whatever to be an every down back in the NFL. That's why he slipped. I don't buy into your reasoning here. Great backs need great OLs to be succesful, that I agree with. Edge was not succesful last year because Az had a horrid OL. Simple as that. We might have a very good OL but it's clear that the Cowboys have not been 100 percent happy with JJ or they would not be considering offers for him every year. There is no guarante on any player taken in the draft so to me, it's really moot on what happens if they don't work out. If they don't work out then we have JJ next year that needs to be signed and no leverage. I mean, your talking as if Lynch is just a so-so back here. He's not. This guy produced in a big time conference. 5-11 217 pound back that runs 4.4 and has quicks. He has rushed for well over a 1000 yards in two consecutive seasons. His career YPC is 6.6 yards. He's also got the ability to catch the football with 34 catches last season for 328 yards, 4 TDs to go with his 11 rushing TDs. This is a pretty talented RB here.

 

[dbair1967]

Should we take him????

I wouldnt...no better than whats here now

unless Jones somehow work a deal to move up for Adrian Peterson AND a 2nd deal to trade Jones or Barber (most likely Jones) then I see absolutely no need whatsoever to get anything other than a late rd development 3rd RB type guy, because none of the other RB's in this draft class represents an obvious upgrade over what we already have

David

 

[Danny White]

IF Lynch drops to 22 (which I don't think will happen) then that would mean that only 1 RB would have been taken yet, and I'd have to think there would be a host of teams interested in trading up to get him.

It would be a great trade down opportunity, and I don't think you'd have any shortage of suitors.

 

[adamknite]

The only problem with the if it is not broke don't fix it idea is this.

In our case it was the FIRST year that Julius has not been broken sometime in the season.

Just something to consider.

He's also gotten 2900 yards in 37 games. However, I never said it'd be a bad idea to upgrade from Julies, I was implying that if we're going to upgrade from Julies we'd better be sure Lynch would get the job done. If you view 1700 yards and 19 touchdowns from JuJo/MB3 combo as being broke, or could be better then ok we should upgrade, and if we upgrade we better be sure that Lynch is going to atleast fill Julies's role on the team.

 

[dbair1967]

If he's the best player on the board and you can't trade out of the pick, then yes, you trade him and move JJ down the line. Would actually be a smart move IMO because JJ is coming up on a contract. Would take away a lot of leverage if you had him here. A move like this reminds me a lot of the Addai pick last year.

how? The Colts had a gaping hole at RB after losing James...they had a career backup type guy who had had injuries of his own and nothing else

we have two good RB's already here...

David

 

[superpunk]

IF Lynch drops to 22 (which I don't think will happen) then that would mean that only 1 RB would have been taken yet, and I'd have to think there would be a host of teams interested in trading up to get him.

It would be a great trade down opportunity, and I don't think you'd have any shortage of suitors.

What's gonna benefit us more, though? Having a top notch RB, who can take all of Julius' 0 and negative yardage plays and make them positive? Or trading down?

I honestly don't know. I don't even know that Lynch is THAT guy. I'd hate to miss out on another superstar RB, though.

 

[dbair1967]

Hold on now. Emmitt wasn't anything near a freak of nature but we moved up to take him and I'm happy we did. Had we not done that, no 3 championships in 4 years.

but nobody expected Emmitt to be around where we ended up getting him either...on most pre draft books/boards etc etc Emmitt was a guy who was a sure fire top-10 pick

he was eons a better prospect than Lynch is...most yrs Lynch would probably be a 2nd rd prospect, and honestly I wont be shocked if he ends up going in the 2nd rd anyway

David

 

[smarta5150]

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[ABQCOWBOY]

but nobody expected Emmitt to be around where we ended up getting him either...on most pre draft books/boards etc etc Emmitt was a guy who was a sure fire top-10 pick

he was eons a better prospect than Lynch is...most yrs Lynch would probably be a 2nd rd prospect, and honestly I wont be shocked if he ends up going in the 2nd rd anyway

David

But that's the difference there. Emmitt was picked to be a top 10 pick by the prognosticators but he wasn't considered as such. If he were, he would have been off the board. I don't see how you could say he was eons better. He was roughly the same size, slower, not as quick and not as good catching the ball out of the backfield. He was very productive while in college but he was also coming off a pretty server injury. I believe that Lynch would be a 1st rd, talent wise, player anyway. He has skills.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

how? The Colts had a gaping hole at RB after losing James...they had a career backup type guy who had had injuries of his own and nothing else

we have two good RB's already here...

David

In that James was in a contract year himself and the Colts figured to draft a RB with there pick last year. I mean, it's not like Addai was the only RB on the board for the Colts. Reggie Bush, Laurance Maroney, DeAngelo Williams, Joseph Addai, LenDale White, Maurice Drew, all went in the first two rounds of last years draft. I mean, it's not as if the Colts didn't know there would be a good talented back available for them when they picked. Come on David, your making this to much like rocket science here.

Besides, Lynch kind reminds me of Addai.