CFZ What if: No kicker on game day

[glimmerman]

The dude sounds almost exactly like Steve Perry. It’s wild.

I think they found him on you tube.

 

[Jfconrow]

As long as the punter can onsides kick it every time I’m good with that, it works in Madden.

 

[Risen Star]

This would seem like a great idea when you're down by 2 with 5 seconds left and you have the ball at your opponent's 30 yard line.

 

[john van brocklin]

What if the Cowboys didn't carry a kicker?
- Either go for it on 4th or punt.
- 2 point conversions after TDs.
- Punter that can kick off.

Statistics indicate that teams would come out ahead in the long run with this approach.
- A high school coach made headlines a few years ago for always going for it on 4th down.
- Not sure if that was literally always, or if it was restricted to being on the favorable side of the 50 yard line.

A failed field goal is place at the spot of the kick.
- That's ~8 yards behind the line.

With the method I listed, they have the option to punt.
- If they are so close that punting into the endzone does not gain much, then failing by going for it does not lose much.

I think defenses and D-Coordinators would have that an offense always has 4 downs to convert.
- Envision all of the times the Cowboys made a big stop on 3rd down, then the opponent converted on 4th.
- I always want to opponent to punt in those situations.

Interesting problem to have, but not preferred.
Our kicker situation sounds less than optimal.

 

[JD_KaPow]

What if the Cowboys didn't carry a kicker?
- Either go for it on 4th or punt.
- 2 point conversions after TDs.
- Punter that can kick off.

Statistics indicate that teams would come out ahead in the long run with this approach.
- A high school coach made headlines a few years ago for always going for it on 4th down.
- Not sure if that was literally always, or if it was restricted to being on the favorable side of the 50 yard line.

A failed field goal is place at the spot of the kick.
- That's ~8 yards behind the line.

With the method I listed, they have the option to punt.
- If they are so close that punting into the endzone does not gain much, then failing by going for it does not lose much.

I think defenses and D-Coordinators would have that an offense always has 4 downs to convert.
- Envision all of the times the Cowboys made a big stop on 3rd down, then the opponent converted on 4th.
- I always want to opponent to punt in those situations.

I like the approach in general, but as the game gets to the end and you have more information and less time, the flexibility to get those 3 points is huge.

 

[CoachD]

Laces out Dan!

 

[CoachD]

Having a kicker ain't a big deal. Just put one out there and be done with it. Games are never won or lost because of a kicker. Punters are much more important.

See this is why I get banned because of posters like this that have no idea about the game of football!!!

 

[jterrell]

Statistics are a measurement of what has been and not what will be. If I flip a coin and it comes up heads 4 times in a row, that says nothing about the next flip. Considering teams only attempt 4th down conversions ~20% of the time the numbers suffer from a lower sample size and don't say much.

Let's say teams adopt this strategy of no kicking. Guaranteed you would see a drop in 4th down conversion rate probably along the lines of the league average for 3rd downs, ~39%.

This is correct.
If a team has no kicker other teams would game plan and defend 2pt conversions much better.
There are no accurate stats for this because it hasn't been done just an assumption of "all other things would remain the same".

Reality is a great offensive team with powerful run game could probably get away with this.
BUT, they'd be risking injury and additional snaps for a very slight mathematical benefit.

 

[RodeoJake]

See this is why I get banned because of posters like this that have no idea about the game of football!!!

Maybe it's because you just don't recognize humor?