What IF we had gotten Mark Brunell instead?

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OK, this ISN'T another anti-Bledsoe thread, however...

Remember a couple of years ago, Jerry and Bill thought about trading for him too.

Anyhow-IF we had, there would be thousands of anti-Brunell threads here, etc. And you know it.

Pt being that our coaching has been the ultimate undoing here.
 

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TunaFan33 said:
OK, this ISN'T another anti-Bledsoe thread, however...

Remember a couple of years ago, Jerry and Bill thought about trading for him too.

Anyhow-IF we had, there would be thousands of anti-Brunell threads here, etc. And you know it.

Pt being that our coaching has been the ultimate undoing here.

Of course! Behind that line Bledsoe played with, There would be nothing but anti ____ (fill in the blank of any HOF QB you like) posts all over the zone...

Weather feels might FAIR around here with a lot of people...

EVERYONE should be thankful we have Bledsoe and should be excited to see him take us to the next level in 2006. Improved O-line in the offseason and it's a done deal!
 

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I don't think he would have solved our problem. we got very very bad OL for years now.....you can bring Payton manning and he will look like a frightening duck. Drew Bledsoe is doing fine in my book
 

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Mark Brunnell behind this oline? We'd all be asking what hospital to send him flowers in.
 

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We would be in the same boat....

Now, another interesting question is...

What if we had gotten Byron Leftwhich?

- Mike G.
 

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Brunell and Bledsoe are the same to me. Neither are long term solutions for any team.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
We would be in the same boat....

Now, another interesting question is...

What if we had gotten Byron Leftwhich?

- Mike G.


We would be in the same boat :thumbdo: Leftwich is a statue just like Bledsoe (maybe slightly more mobile).
 

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JeffInDC said:
We would be in the same boat :thumbdo: Leftwich is a statue just like Bledsoe (maybe slightly more mobile).

So?

Alot of QBs in the NFL do not have great lateral movement.

The point is the guy is young and has his best years ahead of him.

You put this guy in the NFC, I think we are in the playoffs at least 2 out of the 3 times Parcells has been here.

I would take him over Bledsoe, Quincy, Hutch, and Vinny any day of the week.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
So?

Alot of QBs in the NFL do not have great lateral movement.

The point is the guy is young and has his best years ahead of him.

You put this guy in the NFC, I think we are in the playoffs at least 2 out of the 3 times Parcells has been here.

I would take him over Bledsoe, Quincy, Hutch, and Vinny any day of the week.

- Mike G.

Mike, I'm not saying that Leftwich isn't any good or that he doesn't have his best years ahead of him (as a matter of fact, I believe he will be great). The problem is that if he were on this team, he would spend more time on his back than throwing passes. The O-line is just horrible right now.
 

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Cowchips said:
Mark Brunnell behind this oline? We'd all be asking what hospital to send him flowers in.

Not true Burnell is known for his mobility. He is a bit too old though.
 

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JeffInDC said:
We would be in the same boat :thumbdo: Leftwich is a statue just like Bledsoe (maybe slightly more mobile).

True, but we would have our quarterback of the future. Leftwich is a young version of Bledsoe.
 

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TunaFan33 said:
OK, this ISN'T another anti-Bledsoe thread, however...

Remember a couple of years ago, Jerry and Bill thought about trading for him too.

Anyhow-IF we had, there would be thousands of anti-Brunell threads here, etc. And you know it.

Pt being that our coaching has been the ultimate undoing here.

No, there wasn't any official trade for him word. It was only speculation. They might have had him in if he was FA, at least thats what I read at that time.

But my view about Brunell is the same as I had then about him. No way, no how. Don't need a retread, barely playing well enough. Only thing about Brunell is he can at least move some, other than that, Bledsoe or Brunell, you are stuck in a muck.

Yeah, point is, BP doesn't want to be in rebuilding phase at Offense. He is too old to lose while rebuilding. I didn't believe that at first and argued against that, but all the key positions on Offense is littered with over 30s players. Not good for future.
 

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The reason that the Commanders went 5-0 at the end of the season ....and the reason the Cowboys went 1-4 at the end of the season..... is not due to the QB's.

The reason is the running game.

The Commanders were able to run the ball. And they did not allow the opposing defense to dictate wether they passed or ran. They simply manned up and ran the ball with great success. Something that the cowboys were only able to do in the 1 win against Carolina.

IMO....Brunell's success....and Bledsoes lack of success.....was mostly due to the success (and lack thereof) in the respective running games.

And I think that the success of the running games had to do with 3 things. And I have listed them in order of importance.

(1) The OL. The Commanders offensive line is heads and tails above the talent level of our OL at the end of the season.
(2) Scheme - I believe that Gibbs offensive scheme is more sound than Parcells....especially when it comes to running the ball. It is no coincidence that Gibbs is now having the same success running the ball, with the same scheme, that he did in the past.
(3) Portis is a better back than JJ at this point in time. I do believe that JJ was dealing with some mental issues this season...especially following the ankle injury. Parcells stated that JJ had been running in practice the same way we saw him run against Carolina. But for some reason he was not running like that in the games prior to Carolina.

We obviously need to upgrade our OL unit next year. IMO...none of the guys who started in the last game are keepers....including Allen. The entire line needs to be revamped.

I reserve total judgement on the "scheme" until I see a running game that has a respectable offensive line.

I also believe that next year, with an upgraded line, we would mostly see the JJ that we saw against Carolina.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
So?

Alot of QBs in the NFL do not have great lateral movement.

The point is the guy is young and has his best years ahead of him.

You put this guy in the NFC, I think we are in the playoffs at least 2 out of the 3 times Parcells has been here.

I would take him over Bledsoe, Quincy, Hutch, and Vinny any day of the week.

- Mike G.

He's also had some problems with injuries. Behind this line, it would be even worse. No need to be obsessed with youth. Right now, T-New is a better player than Leftwich.
 

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JeffInDC said:
We would be in the same boat :thumbdo: Leftwich is a statue just like Bledsoe (maybe slightly more mobile).
That's ridiculous...when he isn't injured, Leftwich looks like Young compared to Bledsoe....and that's no knock on Bledsoe, just on his lack of mobility....Leftwich actually takes off running from time to time....he's no Vick, but if you followed him at all at Marshall or since then, he's mobile for a guy his size.

Roethlisberger doesn't run much either, but he's 100 times more mobile than Bledsoe.
 

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Brunell would be a double amputee by now. He WAS known for his mobility in his prime, but like most running quarterbacks that ability was somewaht short lived. He still does run occasionally, but Brunell is an injury time-bomb. That's why he didn't get more interest around the league and why he was initially a back-up to Ramsey. If he got a new hoveround every year, then he might have been worth considering. I do think Bledsoe is a better quarterback, tho. Won't go into why in this thread, but Brunell has never been that reliable and consistent IMO.
 

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neosapien23 said:
Not true Burnell is known for his mobility. He is a bit too old though.

He gets an A+ for mobility and a D- for durability. He would have been killed behind this oline.
 

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Brunell can scramble, we may have won 3 more games in my opinion.
 

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i dont think Brunell was any better than Bledsoe this past season. Similar stats and whatnot. Brunell did have a better o-line now in hindsight, but overall, I think the defense set us apart.
 
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