What if we trade out the 1st round completely?

xwalker

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and get an extra 2nd and 3rd

2 47 Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB , 6-3 #255 George Tech

2 Martavis Bryant, WR, 6-4 #215 Clemson

3 78 Trai Turner, OG, 6-3 #320 LSU

3 Kelcy Quarles, DT, 6-4 #300 South Carolina


any other ideas ? I am sure there is

I could live with that. I really like Attaochu and Turner.

What were the exact trades. It seems like you moved from 16 to a 2nd round pick and only got a 3rd.
 

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I am surprised to see posters supporting a trade down. The trade-down worked last year, but there was some serious doubts at draft time and there is still a valid concern that the Cowboys didn't get enough compensation from the 49ers. This team hasn't had a good record when trading down if you look at the history of such moves. The fans sure have a short memory.
 

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so no of this guys could start - I see 4 starters

and who knows how the deal would break down - only an idea


47 Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB , 6-3 #255 George Tech

2 Martavis Bryant, WR, 6-4 #215 Clemson

3 78 Trai Turner, OG, 6-3 #320 LSU

3 Kelcy Quarles, DT, 6-4 #300 South Carolina



or that or trade back in the first round - I really see no one worth a first round pick on the D


think out side your own little box

Don't like Attaochu. I don't like him as a 43 DE. Not a fan so no I do t see as a starter. Bryant is a #3. In the 2nd round it's to early for him. I like Turner and Quarles but Turner is the only I really like. I do without the others.
 

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I don't know exactly what the Cowboys think about Jernigan, but I would be ok with him in the first. I think he's a good player and would work very well next to Melton.

I don't believe we do not like him because he is a one tech, its all BS right now. No one thought we would draft a center last year and that has been neglected for years and that move paid off big time. One tech is another position we have neglected, it could happen and if you pair him up with Melton that could be dangerous. I am not buying all they hype that we do not like him, it just depends on who is on the board at that time.
 

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Waaaaay too many holes on this team to justify passing on the BPA just to grab another pick imo. They need to get the best players they can. Plus, Dallas has hit on three of their last four first rounders (Dez, Tyron and FredBeard) and only one of their last three second rounders (Lee) since the debacle draft of 2009. I don't really trust them to make good choices with the extra picks.
 
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I could live with that. I really like Attaochu and Turner.

What were the exact trades. It seems like you moved from 16 to a 2nd round pick and only got a 3rd.

I really don't have more of a hypothetical idea

just trying to get some guys ideas about it
 

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Here is my trade down to the 2nd mock that I posted in another thread. The trades are according the the trade chart.

Trade down from 16, get 27, 59, 91
Trade down from 27, get 44, 76

44 WR Martavis Bryant
I had not planned on my first pick being a WR, but he was there and I decided to do it.
6-4, 4.42 forty, 39 vert

47 DE Jeremiah Attaochu
I traded down with this player in mind. He has excellent quickness and plays with some violence.
6-3, 255
Attaochu ran his 40-yard dash times in the late 4.5, early 4.6 range with a 37.5-inch vertical jump, 4.64 short shuttle and 7.28 three cone drill. His 1.55 10-yard split would have ranked him tops among all linebackers at the combine.

59 DT Dominique Easley
I probably wouldn't do this if not for the extra picks. His medical scares me, but he might have been ranked higher than Donald if not for the injury.

76 OL Billy Turner
My #1 pet cat. I think he can play OG or OT, 6-5, 315. I like him as a Zone Blocking OG, at least initially. He is very light on his feet, plays with very good power and is very agressive.

78 DB Stanley Jean-Baptiste
Big CB. 6-3, 218, 4.45 forty at Pro Day. An option at either CB or Safety.

91 LB Jordan Tripp
Very good college LB with decent speed. 6-3, 234, 4.67 forty.

119 OL Trai Turner
Another pet cat. Has a lot of upside due to coming out as a Junior. 6-3, 310, 4.93 forty.

158 DE Aaron Lynch
Head case, but very talented. 6-5, 249, 4.69 forty. Played at about 270 at Notre Dame and was very good in some games there.

225 OL Brandon Thomas
Recent ACL tear. College LT would move to OG in the NFL. 6-3, 317, 5.09 forty. I doubt if he falls this far, but for this exercise, he was available and I'm taking him to stash on IR.

248 DE Larry Webster
Fast developmental DE. 6-6, 252, 4.58 forty.

251 DT Ken Bishop
My #2 pet cat. Dominant small college DT. Very quick and agile and power overwhelmed small college OLinemen. Can probably play 3 or 1 tech.

254 DT Zach Kerr
Excellent quickness, especially for his size 6-1, 326.
 

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I'd take that

I will tell you I WR Martavis Bryant if this were to happen
 

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Please take the best player on the Board, even if it is WR you jump on the Franchise is he's there. Trading past #20 is the first tier step down in talent.

I wouldn't recommend it.
 

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you have three picks, the other you have four

please show me where

you just don't get it do you

my four picks will all be starters

oh you want to talk about math - lmao - a former engineer

You don't have two extra picks former engineer. You have one extra pick....and they are all worth less than #16. You must have designed those $5000 toilets for the government.
 

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2 Martavis Bryant, WR, 6-4 #215 Clemson IS RIGHT on the cusp of being a number one

2 47 Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB , 6-3 #255 George Tech

3 78 Trai Turner, OG, 6-3 #320 LSU

3 Kelcy Quarles, DT, 6-4 #300 South Carolina

I'd say I could get three starters an on rotation guy out of that

DUH MATH MUST BE HARD WERE YOU LEARN IT
 

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Dream draft.......:D

Trade down from 16, get 27, 56, 94

1/27. Dee Ford DE Auburn
2/47. Trai Turner LG LSU
2/56. Kelcy Quarles DT S. Carolina
3/78. Jarvis Landry WR LSU
3/94. Juwan James OT Tennessee
4/119. Telvin Smith WLB Florida St.
5/158. Ahmad Dixon, FS Baylor
7/229. Trey Millard FB Oklahoma(From Chi)
7/231. Lawrence Virgil DT Valdosta St. (From KC)
7/238. Spencer Long, RG Nebraska
7/248. Demetri Goodson CB Baylor (Comp)
7/251. David Gilbert DE Miami (Comp)
7/254. Bryn Renner QB North Carolina (Comp)
 
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If all of their first round graded players are gone before #16 then they should definitely trade back into the draft's sweet spot,,, or start stockpiling first round picks for when they need to trade up for Romo's replacement in a year or two.
 

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2 Martavis Bryant, WR, 6-4 #215 Clemson IS RIGHT on the cusp of being a number one

2 47 Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB , 6-3 #255 George Tech

3 78 Trai Turner, OG, 6-3 #320 LSU

3 Kelcy Quarles, DT, 6-4 #300 South Carolina

I'd say I could get three starters an on rotation guy out of that

DUH MATH MUST BE HARD WERE YOU LEARN IT

So you really think you got two extra picks? If you had three to start, getting two extra picks would mean five total. You have four total. You got one extra pick and swapped a first for a second. Stay with your first rounder and get three better starters.

Just for shiggles....since you kept #47 and #78....you traded #16 for a second and third. On the trade value chart....you traded 1000 points for much less....even if you got the first pick in the second round (value 580) and the first pick in the third (value 265) you got butt raped in value....basically should have got at least another third. And that is giving you the benefit of the doubt on the value chart. Maybe you should stick to engineering and leave the trading to people that have a clue.
 

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No thanks!

I think a real good player we can use on either line or at LB is going to be there at 16.
 

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If all of their first round graded players are gone before #16 then they should definitely trade back into the draft's sweet spot,,, or start stockpiling first round picks for when they need to trade up for Romo's replacement in a year or two.
If Bridgewater is there at 16 would he not be a good pick then?
 

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Last year we traded 18 for 31 and 74. If we traded our 16, then those 2nd and 3rd picks we pick up would have to be early, or it would be worse than the deal last year.
 

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so no of this guys could start - I see 4 starters

and who knows how the deal would break down - only an idea


47 Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB , 6-3 #255 George Tech

2 Martavis Bryant, WR, 6-4 #215 Clemson

3 78 Trai Turner, OG, 6-3 #320 LSU

3 Kelcy Quarles, DT, 6-4 #300 South Carolina



or that or trade back in the first round - I really see no one worth a first round pick on the D


think out side your own little box

and get an extra 2nd and 3rd

2 47 Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB , 6-3 #255 George Tech

2 Martavis Bryant, WR, 6-4 #215 Clemson

3 78 Trai Turner, OG, 6-3 #320 LSU

3 Kelcy Quarles, DT, 6-4 #300 South Carolina


any other ideas ? I am sure there is

This is a horrible maneuver. If the Cowboys trade out of the 1st for a mid 2nd and mid 3rd it is highway robbery. You already show 2 of the 4 picks as current 2nd and 3rd round, so don't even count what we already have. I am more inclined to grab a 2nd and 3rd """"and""" a 1st from next season to make this deal. The draft chart shows a 1st round pick 16 worthy of 1000 pts. Getting a 2nd (48 overall) is 420 and a mid 3rd (80) is worth 190 = 610 points for our 1000 Thank GOD you're not the GM! I would agree with the poster who mentioned getting a 2015 1st which is in my estimation worth about 2/3 of 2014 value and it's all a guessing game on forecasting the trade partners results this season.

note: even though Cleveland had a better season than projected I just loved the trade Jerry made when we traded back to allow them our pick to go get the Notre Dame QB I think it was 2008. They sucked and we could have hit paydirt draft day wise but it still worked out nice.
 

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So you really think you got two extra picks? If you had three to start, getting two extra picks would mean five total. You have four total. You got one extra pick and swapped a first for a second. Stay with your first rounder and get three better starters.

Just for shiggles....since you kept #47 and #78....you traded #16 for a second and third. On the trade value chart....you traded 1000 points for much less....even if you got the first pick in the second round (value 580) and the first pick in the third (value 265) you got butt raped in value....basically should have got at least another third. And that is giving you the benefit of the doubt on the value chart. Maybe you should stick to engineering and leave the trading to people that have a clue.


that went out with Jimmy
 
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