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I like, but no kudos for Murray?

I love Murray as a player and as a person, I hope the team pays him. But my point in starting the thread wasn't shoutouts to individual players, just that we spent months and months listening to pathetic posts about how horrible most of this team was - and most of those hater posts were dead wrong.
 
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And Carter too!

Yup, Carter too. Carter was a huge wildcard coming into the season but it looks like things finally clicked for him. And I hadn't even thought about Spencer coming back to form but that looks like a possibility also. It's starting to look like there could be a real shot at a front seven next year that looks like this:

Spencer/Selvie
Crawford/Brent/Bishop
Melton/Coleman
Lawrence/Mincey

Carter
McClain
Lee
 

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That was the sound of pieholes shutting. Dallas just played the SB champs, in their house, lost the turnover battle, had little passrush… and still made the plays they needed to win. It doesn’t mean we will go to the Super Bowl, but it’s a turning point that shows this team is legit.

They won’t do it, but pieholes should be shutting for the following reasons:

This is not the worst team of the last 20 years.

This is not the worst defense in the NFL.

Romo is not finished.

Our secondary does not suck.

Joseph Randle does not suck.

Escobar does not suck.

Mincey does not suck.

Hitchens does not suck.

We do not have half a team that isn’t NFL quality.

I’m old enough that I remember the 1985 blowout where the Bears destroyed the Cowboys. It was a turning point that showed a dark age was coming for several seasons. This game feels like the opposite, a turning point that shows this is a young team that still needs more weapons but is a team on the rise – and will be a solid team for several years going forward.

I see that two posters with the biggest pie-holes are still posting with no apologies or admission that they were dead wrong about this team.

They said Hitchens was not worth a draft pick: Wrong!

They said that Marinelli with his nicknames for players was overrated: Wrong!

They said that this defense didn't have any legit NFL starters on it: Wrong!
 

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let me add: Dallas now has 3 home games in row, then Jacksonville, then bye. By my calculations that puts us 8-2 going into bye.

One game at a time, Wood, one game at a time.

Won't put it past us losing to New York this week because you never know how division games will play out. But there are very good reasons for hope that that will not happen.
 

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That was the sound of pieholes shutting. Dallas just played the SB champs, in their house, lost the turnover battle, had little passrush… and still made the plays they needed to win. It doesn’t mean we will go to the Super Bowl, but it’s a turning point that shows this team is legit.

They won’t do it, but pieholes should be shutting for the following reasons:

This is not the worst team of the last 20 years.

This is not the worst defense in the NFL.

Romo is not finished.

Our secondary does not suck.

Joseph Randle does not suck.

Escobar does not suck.

Mincey does not suck.

Hitchens does not suck.

We do not have half a team that isn’t NFL quality.

I’m old enough that I remember the 1985 blowout where the Bears destroyed the Cowboys. It was a turning point that showed a dark age was coming for several seasons. This game feels like the opposite, a turning point that shows this is a young team that still needs more weapons but is a team on the rise – and will be a solid team for several years going forward.

Wilson was on the run all game. The Dline was awesome.
 

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Wilson was on the run all game. The Dline was awesome.

Great point. If Eli Manning had been in the pocket for the Seahawks yesterday the Cowboys would have had 4 sacks for the game.
 

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I still stick by most of my original comments about the defensive line. I think we have a quantity to throw at teams, but not much high quality. Crawford is looking like the best of the bunch (although Melton has his moments) and Spencer is coming back strong from his injury.

Terrell McClain seems like the equivalent of Nate Livings to Jeremy Mincey's McKenzie Bernadeau among the free agent fill-ins.

The wave approach is working good enough, though, especially with the linebackers playing as well as they have behind them. I also think Marinelli has done a good job of understanding that this line can't get consistent pressure and trying to get it from other sources while dropping players like Mincey into short zones.

If Spencer can get up to speed and Lawrence proves to be what they think he can be, that could give us a lift along the line.

I noticed T. McClain get pressure a couple of times and I didn't notice him getting blown up or anything like that. I'll probably review the DL first when I re-watch the game.
 

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I noticed T. McClain get pressure a couple of times and I didn't notice him getting blown up or anything like that. I'll probably review the DL first when I re-watch the game.

If it happened early in the game, I didn't get to watch thanks to Fox's bad programming decision.
 

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If it happened early in the game, I didn't get to watch thanks to Fox's bad programming decision.

Even before I do a detailed review of the game, the DL generally must have been doing something right considering the outcome.
 

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If it happened early in the game, I didn't get to watch thanks to Fox's bad programming decision.

I have West Coast DirecTV and it drove me insane. No channel showed the game until it was 3-0, the premium 716 channel stopped showing the game in the second half (switching to an off Fox channel) and then they stopped showing the game on the final game before the McClain pick. I had to record the "Short Cuts" version to see what I missed live.
 

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Even before I do a detailed review of the game, the DL generally must have been doing something right considering the outcome.

No doubt, they did. Lot of harassment coming from different areas, with Marinelli mixing up his pressure calls. Linemen and linebackers converging on the ball carrier, good man coverage, etc.

All those things worked together for a good defensive game, and we need to continue being at least a harassing defense up front and strong in the LB corps and secondary (which has looked pretty good since Scandrick took back the starting role).

Spencer, Crawford and Melton seemed especially active at first glance among the DL, while Mincey seemed to have a pretty good "busy" game. Didn't really notice the rest, but again that's with seeing only three-fourths of the game.

Would love to have more game-changers on the line (obviously), but the waves are working for now. Think if we had a more disruptive 1-tech and a true edge rusher to pair with Mincey at right end, we'd be in real good shape. Spencer/Selive sharing left end isn't a bad combination, especially if Spencer gets all the way back to form.

If Lawrence is what the team hopes, then we could have all the pieces except 1-tech in place this year ... and I don't know what to make of Brent possibly being that 1-tech monster.

I am pleased overall, though, that Crawford seems to be living up to his hype, that Melton is bouncing back OK from his injury, that Mincey is a decent rotational player and that Spencer is showing signs of full recovery. Selvie is what he should be expected to be, so is Hayden, probably McClain, Coleman and Bishop at this point.
 

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It's a good post but I don't know where you get they had no rush. They were rushing Wilson very well yesterday. They made him make some bad throws, throw some away. We didn't quite get the sacks on him but we were hurrying him and hounding him.
 

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I don't want to hear 'well who have they played' when discussing the Cowboys anymore this season.

You won't.

Wasn't Houston 3-1 when we played them? And now Seattle.

We may not win them all, but we are a tough game on someone's schedule every week now.

I will be very curious to see how this bunch responds after doing that in Seattle. I would love to see them come out and look that good again and ROOLLLLLLLL the Giants. LOL
 

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You won't.

Wasn't Houston 3-1 when we played them? And now Seattle.

We may not win them all, but we are a tough game on someone's schedule every week now.

I will be very curious to see how this bunch responds after doing that in Seattle. I would love to see them come out and look that good again and ROOLLLLLLLL the skins.

Well we need to ROOLLLLLLL the Giants first and then the Skins.
 
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..just that we spent months and months listening to pathetic posts about how horrible most of this team was - and most of those hater posts were dead wrong.

Have a cookie. Most of those posts have been spot on for years, lest ye forget.
 

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I don't want to hear 'well who have they played' when discussing the Cowboys anymore this season.

If Seatlle misses the playoffs or otherwise plays poorly, I'm afraid that's exactly what we'll hear.
 

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If Seatlle misses the playoffs or otherwise plays poorly, I'm afraid that's exactly what we'll hear.

Doubt. Beating the defending Super Bowl champs in their place(that place especially) should eliminate all of that regardless of what Seattle does the rest of the year.
 
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