What is the next big innovation in the NFL?

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jesusphreak;1277652 said:
What is a free kick?

This rule:

6. If time expires while ball is in play and a fair catch is awarded, receiving team may choose to extend the period with one fair catch kick down. However, placekicker may not use tee.

Edit: I guess I mean "fair-catch kick", not free kick
Fair Catch Kick

1. After a fair catch, the receiving team has the option to put the ball in play by a snap or a fair catch kick (field goal attempt), with fair catch kick lines established ten yards apart. All general rules apply as for a field goal attempt from scrimmage. The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (No tee permitted.)
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1277671 said:
No Superbowls. But one really big playoff choke though!

And that is exactly why something like that won't win Super Bowls. They were up by 35 and ended up losing. The only way that happens is if you can't run the ball.

Passing when you have the lead keeps lots of time on the clock and also often leads to turnovers.
 

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Word Mofo;1277675 said:
This rule:

6. If time expires while ball is in play and a fair catch is awarded, receiving team may choose to extend the period with one fair catch kick down. However, placekicker may not use tee.

Edit: I guess I mean "fair-catch kick", not free kick
Fair Catch Kick

1. After a fair catch, the receiving team has the option to put the ball in play by a snap or a fair catch kick (field goal attempt), with fair catch kick lines established ten yards apart. All general rules apply as for a field goal attempt from scrimmage. The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (No tee permitted.)

I just realized that this is no different than just a field goal attempt. I always thought Madden said there was a rule where you could kick a field goal without anyone else on the field if the game ended on a fair caught kickoff.
 

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Word Mofo;1277686 said:
I just realized that this is no different than just a field goal attempt. I always thought Madden said there was a rule where you could kick a field goal without anyone else on the field if the game ended on a fair caught kickoff.

Maybe that is true. But wouldn't it be like a 90+ yard kick, assuming the ball was fair caught on the 20? Can you even call a fair catch on kickoffs?
 

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jesusphreak;1277678 said:
And that is exactly why something like that won't win Super Bowls. They were up by 35 and ended up losing. The only way that happens is if you can't run the ball.

Passing when you have the lead keeps lots of time on the clock and also often leads to turnovers.

Yeah, just the Rams were the closest I could think of (spread offense or passing predominately) that did win da Bowl;)
 

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here's more info I found on the fair catch kick:

is a little-known, rarely enacted rule found in professional and some amateur American football. It is one of the three types of free kicks; the other two are the kickoff and the safety kick. The fair catch kick is the only of the three in which the kicking team may score a field goal. At one time a very similar rule existed in rugby union called goal from mark. Fair catch kicks can only occur when a member of the receiving team signals for, and successfully makes, a fair catch. That team then has the option of restarting play either by snap or fair catch kick. If the team elects the fair catch kick option, the kicking team lines up at the spot where the fair catch was made and the opposing team lines up ten yards downfield. The kicker then may either placekick the ball from a teammate's hold (a kickoff tee may be used in high school) or dropkick the ball. Three points are awarded for kicking the ball through the uprights. If the kick does not go through the uprights, the ball is live, similar to either of the other free kicks. Likewise, a fair catch kick landing out of bounds but not in the end zone is awarded to the receiving team 30 yards from where it was kicked.


In the NFL, a fair catch kick may still be attempted if the quarter ends on the fair catch play. This is not automatic; a team's captain or coach must exercise this option.


This play is very rarely used. First of all, it is only allowed in the NFL, high school, and a few other levels of football. In the NFL, a rare combination of circumstances would make it plausible. As it will only happen after a punt or free kick, a fair catch tends to be taken too far from the goal for a kick to be successful (although, unlike a field goal attempt, the resulting kick is taken from the spot of the catch, not several yards back, and the defending team must stay 10 yards back before the kick.) Further, it is of most use to a team when there is not enough time to run a play from scrimmage, so is only likely to be seen when the punt would otherwise be the last play of a half or a game. Finally, at the end of a game it is only of use when the receiving team is 3 points or fewer behind, or the game is tied - if they need 4 or more points, they will try to run the ball back for a touchdown. If a team has a three point lead on fourth down with a few seconds left, they are more likely to run out the clock by having the punter run around the end zone and take an intentional safety than to risk a punt.


In the rare circumstances when a punt is taken close to a team's own goal line with only a few seconds left in the half, sportscasters will sometimes mention the rule. However, punters, under those circumstances, will generally kick the ball away from the return man, most likely to frustrate a long return rather than to prevent a fair catch.
Because a fair catch kick is rarely used, many players, coaches and fans don't know that the rule even exists.


The last successful fair catch kick in the NFL was by Mac Percival in 1968, scoring the game-winning field goal for the Chicago Bears against the Green Bay Packers. As of 2006, 8 more have been attempted, none successful. [1]
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1277692 said:
Yeah, just the Rams were the closest I could think of (spread offense or passing predominately) that did win da Bowl;)

And they barely won that one, couldn't put together another one, and the pounding Warner took, without even being in a true run and shoot, ruined his career.
 

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blindzebra;1277701 said:
And they barely won that one, couldn't put together another one, and the pounding Warner took, without even being in a true run and shoot, ruined his career.

Yep, those were 2 of my favorite non-Dallas Cowboys superbowls. Great endings, nail biters.
 

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PB&J;1277711 said:
******, thats a great idea and someone else besides myself will capitalize on it.

If you wanna pay to watch in your own living room.
 

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The wishbone could work with a Vince Young type quarterback.
 

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Edible penalty flags.
Head linesman will have a red flashing light on his hat.
Flexible goal posts.
Elimination of centers with the Ronco "auto-snapper".
Shock collars. Refs can go ahead and use them at their discretion. Personal fouls and such.
 

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Id like to see someone try this "pistol" formation offense with a mobile qb
 

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3-5-3 for running downs 3 down lineman 5 line backers 3 DB, prefurably 2 corners and a superb cover safety
 

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the kid 05;1277863 said:
3-5-3 for running downs 3 down lineman 5 line backers 3 DB, prefurably 2 corners and a superb cover safety

That actually sounds really interesting. Wonder how it would work out. I think if you got big enough linemen and versatile enough linebackers, such a defense could cause havoc.

It would be a bit like having a slightly bigger Roy Williams or Troy Polamalu all over the field, constantly hitting at different angles and terrorizing the offense.

If you were smart about disguising your schemes, you could constantly have blitzes coming from different sides and a linebacker or two dropping back into coverage at unexpected angles. Constantly hitting receivers hard at the line would disrupt routes as well. All of this combined would make a quarterback's life very difficult.

Of course the modern 3-4 works a lot like this already, but adding that 5th linebacker would be something else. I mean, heck, most strong safeties can't cover anyway, so why not just get a beefy one?
 

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HeavyHitta31;1277606 said:
It won't be long before the spread offense hits the NFL. Shotgun, 5 wides every down will be the norm for several NFL teams by the end of the decade.

Well ya got 3 years to get that 'norm' done.

Good luck with that.:lmao2:
 
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