What is the team culture?

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I see this all the time here and wonder how that is being defined and do others see it as I do? What person is responsible for establishing the team culture and why is that so important?

I've always heard that a team takes on the persona and personality of the HC but then I see behavior on the field that does not reflect that HC's personality.

I think the person to best identify the Cowboys team culture and what had to change was Parcells. He mentioned that "lunch pail mentality" and "blue collar guys" a lot. He knew that the owner was a style over substance guy and his team reflected that.

I wonder how this next HC will be allowed to affect the team culture with a GM that is all about the show? All tied up with the stars that he's never been about the team.

The owner has used the word "entertainment" more than others but then why shouldn't he? That's not a football stadium, that is an entertainment venue that just happens to have a football field in the middle of it. If you remove the TV money, the Cowboys are not his most profitable "shows" because of the expenses.

So, how does this new HC have the chance to change the team culture and how do you think Parcells would have responded to that stupid "Hot Boyz" label Lawrence tried to hang on them? Ultimate style over substance. Part of this culture is that players represent themselves instead of putting representing the team first.

The ultimate question is can the owner accept that he's not responsible for the team culture, he cannot be the face of the franchise and so interactive with these players if he hopes to correct the real problem with his team?

What is the most recent example of contrast in team culture and the effects of that? Isn't it Michael Bennett? He broke Belichick's team culture and he only deals with that one way. Isn't it interesting on which team culture he ended up on? And not long after that, he's losing it in the locker room.

One of the toughest challenges in bringing about change is where to start, what to change first to affect a positive domino fall? I really wonder if the brain trust of the Cowboys is capable of real change? I wonder if the players can actually define what the Cowboys culture is?
 

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2016-2018 the team seemed to really get along very well and looked like they were having fun. When they'd show the players on the sideline during a game - it looked like the 'Hot Boyz' would sit together, Dak/Zeke would sit together... Now it just seems like everyone sits by themselves and no one is having fun or talking. You could contribute this to losing, but we went through a stretch where we lost several games in a row in 2017 and we started last season 3-5... But my fear is now that guys are getting these big contracts - the team is just not getting along like they once did. Idk if it's jealousy or what, but I'm sure 'fans' will blame Jason Garrett cuz everything seems to be his fault now n days.

By the way I don't consider the 'Hot Boyz' as a stupid name, they were a damn good rap group in the 90's - when Lil Wayne first came out he was a member of the Hot Boyz, they had some FIRE songs!
 

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No accountability.

Coaches don't perform, no one is fired or replaced.
Players don't perform, they aren't benched, we don't move on.

We cling to what was, not what is. We live in the past, glory days of old not the battle of the moment. We move on from losses too quickly, we do not let the desire for a win fuel the soul. Most important of all we do not drink from the skulls of our enemies king (QB).
 

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I see this all the time here and wonder how that is being defined and do others see it as I do? What person is responsible for establishing the team culture and why is that so important?

I've always heard that a team takes on the persona and personality of the HC but then I see behavior on the field that does not reflect that HC's personality.

I think the person to best identify the Cowboys team culture and what had to change was Parcells. He mentioned that "lunch pail mentality" and "blue collar guys" a lot. He knew that the owner was a style over substance guy and his team reflected that.

I wonder how this next HC will be allowed to affect the team culture with a GM that is all about the show? All tied up with the stars that he's never been about the team.

The owner has used the word "entertainment" more than others but then why shouldn't he? That's not a football stadium, that is an entertainment venue that just happens to have a football field in the middle of it. If you remove the TV money, the Cowboys are not his most profitable "shows" because of the expenses.

So, how does this new HC have the chance to change the team culture and how do you think Parcells would have responded to that stupid "Hot Boyz" label Lawrence tried to hang on them? Ultimate style over substance. Part of this culture is that players represent themselves instead of putting representing the team first.

The ultimate question is can the owner accept that he's not responsible for the team culture, he cannot be the face of the franchise and so interactive with these players if he hopes to correct the real problem with his team?

What is the most recent example of contrast in team culture and the effects of that? Isn't it Michael Bennett? He broke Belichick's team culture and he only deals with that one way. Isn't it interesting on which team culture he ended up on? And not long after that, he's losing it in the locker room.

One of the toughest challenges in bringing about change is where to start, what to change first to affect a positive domino fall? I really wonder if the brain trust of the Cowboys is capable of real change? I wonder if the players can actually define what the Cowboys culture is?
You ever see Rocky III? Our culture is the circus of the first fight before Clubber lang. That's our culture. We are about the "experience" without any substance.
 

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I speak of culture in the locker room constantly. I don’t know how some people can’t comprehend what it really means. The camaraderie must be there
 

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I see this all the time here and wonder how that is being defined and do others see it as I do? What person is responsible for establishing the team culture and why is that so important?

I've always heard that a team takes on the persona and personality of the HC but then I see behavior on the field that does not reflect that HC's personality.

I think the person to best identify the Cowboys team culture and what had to change was Parcells. He mentioned that "lunch pail mentality" and "blue collar guys" a lot. He knew that the owner was a style over substance guy and his team reflected that.

I wonder how this next HC will be allowed to affect the team culture with a GM that is all about the show? All tied up with the stars that he's never been about the team.

The owner has used the word "entertainment" more than others but then why shouldn't he? That's not a football stadium, that is an entertainment venue that just happens to have a football field in the middle of it. If you remove the TV money, the Cowboys are not his most profitable "shows" because of the expenses.

So, how does this new HC have the chance to change the team culture and how do you think Parcells would have responded to that stupid "Hot Boyz" label Lawrence tried to hang on them? Ultimate style over substance. Part of this culture is that players represent themselves instead of putting representing the team first.

The ultimate question is can the owner accept that he's not responsible for the team culture, he cannot be the face of the franchise and so interactive with these players if he hopes to correct the real problem with his team?

What is the most recent example of contrast in team culture and the effects of that? Isn't it Michael Bennett? He broke Belichick's team culture and he only deals with that one way. Isn't it interesting on which team culture he ended up on? And not long after that, he's losing it in the locker room.

One of the toughest challenges in bringing about change is where to start, what to change first to affect a positive domino fall? I really wonder if the brain trust of the Cowboys is capable of real change? I wonder if the players can actually define what the Cowboys culture is?
Watching Jerry in that pregame whiskey glass interview Thurs night sums up this culture. Jerry is the face of the franchise and whatever “story” he wants to tell a camera is what this team is. An emotional storyline in the ego-insecurity driven behavior of a 77 year old billionaire who wants to be loved. It’s pathetic.
 

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2016-2018 the team seemed to really get along very well and looked like they were having fun. When they'd show the players on the sideline during a game - it looked like the 'Hot Boyz' would sit together, Dak/Zeke would sit together... Now it just seems like everyone sits by themselves and no one is having fun or talking. You could contribute this to losing, but we went through a stretch where we lost several games in a row in 2017 and we started last season 3-5... But my fear is now that guys are getting these big contracts - the team is just not getting along like they once did. Idk if it's jealousy or what, but I'm sure 'fans' will blame Jason Garrett cuz everything seems to be his fault now n days.

By the way I don't consider the 'Hot Boyz' as a stupid name, they were a damn good rap group in the 90's - when Lil Wayne first came out he was a member of the Hot Boyz, they had some FIRE songs!

I wish I could like this 1000+ times. This needs to be said more. Aikman himself commented on their egos and obsessions with money and lack of leadership. The money will come, but they are so distracted with the idea of so much money that it gets in the way of winning and actually playing football. This team just doesn’t connect like it once did. Amari sparked something last year, but that flame has died out. Hopefully a new HC can fix this, but I’m not too sure it will....
 

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I said it in 2017 and I'll say it again, 2016 might have been the worst thing to happen for this young team. The young stars on offense waltzed in and took the league by surprise en route to a very improbable outcome.

2017 sucked but they had a ton of excuses made for them with injuries and suspensions.

2018 sucked until management brought in a talented receiver who excelled at getting wide open. They then went on a run by being on the right side of many close games only to be embarrassed on both sides of the ball in the PO's

2019 is what it is.

The young leaders on both sides of the ball thought they were all that and a bag of chips right out of the gate, had excuses made for them when things didn't go well and now that they are getting punched in the face, really for the first time, they are responding like entitled celebrities who thought this was going to be easy like it was waaaay back in 2016.
 

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Losing. That's all they now at this point. It won't change until a new HC wins with confidence.

This team needs a "Zero Hour." Start fresh and tear down the rear view mirror.
 

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I see this all the time here and wonder how that is being defined and do others see it as I do? What person is responsible for establishing the team culture and why is that so important?

I've always heard that a team takes on the persona and personality of the HC but then I see behavior on the field that does not reflect that HC's personality.

I think the person to best identify the Cowboys team culture and what had to change was Parcells. He mentioned that "lunch pail mentality" and "blue collar guys" a lot. He knew that the owner was a style over substance guy and his team reflected that.

I wonder how this next HC will be allowed to affect the team culture with a GM that is all about the show? All tied up with the stars that he's never been about the team.

The owner has used the word "entertainment" more than others but then why shouldn't he? That's not a football stadium, that is an entertainment venue that just happens to have a football field in the middle of it. If you remove the TV money, the Cowboys are not his most profitable "shows" because of the expenses.

So, how does this new HC have the chance to change the team culture and how do you think Parcells would have responded to that stupid "Hot Boyz" label Lawrence tried to hang on them? Ultimate style over substance. Part of this culture is that players represent themselves instead of putting representing the team first.

The ultimate question is can the owner accept that he's not responsible for the team culture, he cannot be the face of the franchise and so interactive with these players if he hopes to correct the real problem with his team?

What is the most recent example of contrast in team culture and the effects of that? Isn't it Michael Bennett? He broke Belichick's team culture and he only deals with that one way. Isn't it interesting on which team culture he ended up on? And not long after that, he's losing it in the locker room.

One of the toughest challenges in bringing about change is where to start, what to change first to affect a positive domino fall? I really wonder if the brain trust of the Cowboys is capable of real change? I wonder if the players can actually define what the Cowboys culture is?
Crapp.

Next question.
 

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I speak of culture in the locker room constantly. I don’t know how some people can’t comprehend what it really means. The camaraderie must be there

Can’t be there when your boss’ boss is always around.
 

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I think the culture WAS to always play hard and focus on getting better each and every day.

That no longer appears to be the case.
 
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