What killer defense?

[jimmy40]

and the Colts, Bengals, Broncos twice, Chiefs twice

Didn't the Broncos have a rookie qb and did Trent Green play? We can play this all day. Unless both teams play the same schedule team stats don't mean a damn thing.

 

[smarta5150]

Didn't the Broncos have a rookie qb and did Trent Green play? We can play this all day. Unless both teams play the same schedule team stats don't mean a damn thing.

Trent Green did worse than Huard, didnt he?

 

[eduncan22]

I don't see the Magic.

Wade seems to run a good defense, but given all the problems Dallas had over the last 4 games, its still close.

I think having an All-Pro running back on your offense goes a long way in helping the Chargers Defense.

 

[BigDFan5]

I don't see the Magic.

Wade seems to run a good defense, but given all the problems Dallas had over the last 4 games, its still close.

I think having an All-Pro running back on your offense goes a long way in helping the Chargers Defense.

No kidding LT had like 12 sacks on his own

 

[the kid 05]

I don't see the Magic.

Wade seems to run a good defense, but given all the problems Dallas had over the last 4 games, its still close.

I think having an All-Pro running back on your offense goes a long way in helping the Chargers Defense.

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[ThreeSportStar80]

The Chargers play in a dominant AFC....there are a lot of teams over there who can score right now...

the NFC is freakin mediocre at this point....so 3 pts less a game means a lot.

Statistic SD - Dallas
Points per game 18.9 - 21.9
Yards per game 301.6 - 322.8
Yards per play 4.9 - 5.3
1st Downs per game 17.8 - 18.4
3rd Down % 36.6 - 43.9
4th Down % 35.3 - 50.0
Penalties 87 - 93
Sacks 61 - 34
Passing Yds per game 200.8 - 219.1
Completion % 57.1 - 58.9
Passing TDs Allowed 19 - 25
INTs 16 - 18
Rushing Yds per game 100.3 - 103.7
Rushing TDs Allowed 13 - 12
Fumbles 12 - 13

SD beat us in all but 3 of these stats.....and they did it against a lot better offensive competition........Hey Wade......welcome to Big D

Great point, the AFC from top to bottom is better competition.

 

[Hostile]

I don't see the Magic.

Wade seems to run a good defense, but given all the problems Dallas had over the last 4 games, its still close.

I think having an All-Pro running back on your offense goes a long way in helping the Chargers Defense.

Just a hunch, you were good at pin the tail on the donkey and hitting the pinata at parties weren't you?

:blind:

 

[fanfromvirginia]

I posted the QB sacks and points allowed stats for WP's Ds over the last 25 years in a thread on Friday. They are consistently good or quite good and sometimes great. In 9/25 years, his Ds gave up between 300 and 340 points. A couple times they gave up close or even over 400 points but several times they gave up well under 300 points. And the average QB sacks per season was 44.7. We haven't had more than 37.5 in a season since Haley.

His Ds are usually quite good, sometimes great, every once in a while lousy. I'll take those odds.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

I got more to say. The key to WP being a good coach is not that he has great defenses. His defenses are sometimes great but more often are something like "pretty damn good." Probably because the D will give up big plays when it's willing to take big risks consistently. That's my guess.

The key is that his particular style of D fits our situation perfectly. So our "underperforming" and "underachieving" players will be used in better ways. For years now everyone involved with this team from the coaches on down to the fans has been calling for Roy to be nearer the line and here we are years later and Roy's never been consistently used near the line of scrimmage. Nobody made it happen; there were always excuses (bad in retrospect.) For years we've been talking about needing more QB pressure; his system begins and ends with QB pressure. For years we've wanted a proactive rather than reactive D. Same here. For years we've wanted more turnovers. Same here.

 

[jimmy40]

I got more to say. The key to WP being a good coach is not that he has great defenses. His defenses are sometimes great but more often are something like "pretty damn good." Probably because the D will give up big plays when it's willing to take big risks consistently. That's my guess.

The key is that his particular style of D fits our situation perfectly. So our "underperforming" and "underachieving" players will be used in better ways. For years now everyone involved with this team from the coaches on down to the fans has been calling for Roy to be nearer the line and here we are years later and Roy's never been consistently used near the line of scrimmage. Nobody made it happen; there were always excuses (bad in retrospect.) For years we've been talking about needing more QB pressure; his system begins and ends with QB pressure. For years we've wanted a proactive rather than reactive D. Same here. For years we've wanted more turnovers. Same here.

Name the players on defense that "underachieved" and when they were so good to begin with?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Name the players on defense that "underachieved" and when they were so good to begin with?

Spears, Canty, and Roy. Roy does better near the line of scrimmage than away and he has spent too much of the last few years in coverage. Convince me otherwise. Roy has had times over his career when he played very well. Canty and Spears haven't yet but it's only been a couple years; if they've been used incorrectly we wouldn't yet know. So the "when they were so good to begin with" part is a bit of a set-up.

Ware had a fantastic year but he could have bigger, better numbers (and thus impact) so, yeah, him too technically.

And James with a big asterisk. His play last year makes me think he's not hopeless and that used better he might be better. Stressing the word "might" here.

On edit: by "last year" for James I mean the 2005 season. Sorry about that.

There's a reason I put those words in parentheses, by the way. This is what has been said of them but if they were being asked to do the wrong things at the wrong time then "misused" would be better.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

SD had tons of injuries and of course Roid Boy had his suspension. Compare that to us, who had only one starter lost to injury all year, and that one injury sunk our whole ship.

You're correct that it's not like we won't surrender a single point all year just because Phillips is here. But at least we'll get the pressure D so many have wanted for so long.

 

[eduncan22]

SD had tons of injuries and of course Roid Boy had his suspension. Compare that to us, who had only one starter lost to injury all year, and that one injury sunk our whole ship.

You're correct that it's not like we won't surrender a single point all year just because Phillips is here. But at least we'll get the pressure D so many have wanted for so long.

The reason we brought Wade in was to "shore up the Defense."

Sure, the secondary needs work [Henry and Glenn both are problems], but it's really not a stretch to improve from our # 13 ranking.

Our Run defense is awesome.

Now you know why Zimmer wasn't on the market long.

 

[Hostile]

The reason we brought Wade in was to "shore up the Defense."

Sure, the secondary needs work [Henry and Glenn both are problems], but it's really not a stretch to improve from our # 13 ranking.

Our Run defense is awesome.

Now you know why Zimmer wasn't on the market long.

Yeah, It's not like Petrino had ever worked with Zimmer before.

Oh wait...he had.

 

[Oh_Canada]

We shall see who's defense is better Atlanta or Dallas....I am betting it will be Dallas by a landslide.

 

[tomson75]

Making a strong and convincing run at being the prez of the clueless crowd.

While his argument sucks, he's in no danger of this while that hopelesspermwhale is swimming around. Even Philo and Cowboyblog have better shots at that title than this guy.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Comparing the Dallas and San Dog defenses....

2006 San Diego 301.6 YPG, 303 PTS, Ranked # 10 in the NFL

2006 Dallas Defense 322.8 YPG, 350 PTS, Ranked # 13 in the NFL


I don't think the bar is set very high.

12 and 4. 9 and 7.

 

[CowboyJeff]

Comparing the Dallas and San Dog defenses....

2006 San Diego 301.6 YPG, 303 PTS, Ranked # 10 in the NFL

2006 Dallas Defense 322.8 YPG, 350 PTS, Ranked # 13 in the NFL


I don't think the bar is set very high.

Norm Hitzges went through this comparison the other day, saying rankings are based on yards allowed. Because San Diego had such large leads in games, they played a lot of prevent defense at the end of games where opponents would gain "garbage yards." IMHO, there's no comparison between the Cowboys defense and Chargers defense.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Norm Hitzges went through this comparison the other day, saying rankings are based on yards allowed. Because San Diego had such large leads in games, they played a lot of prevent defense at the end of games where opponents would gain "garbage yards." IMHO, there's no comparison between the Cowboys defense and Chargers defense.

Sure there is. Dallas was a defense that could be good, but didn't really strike that much fear into anyone. San Diego was a defense that teams know would get after the QB, and a defense that other teams know would create turn overs.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

The reason we brought Wade in was to "shore up the Defense."

Sure, the secondary needs work [Henry and Glenn both are problems], but it's really not a stretch to improve from our # 13 ranking.

Our Run defense is awesome.

Now you know why Zimmer wasn't on the market long.

Aaron Glenn is probably the best #3 CB in the league. Henry may have been pretty bad at times, but you can't ask a guy to cover for an extended period of time (lack of pass rush), and be the guy that teams throw at far more than his counterpart and expect him not get beat from time to time.